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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chichester, West Sus Local Time: 08:03 AM
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Offline | Reverse I was just wondering if I am the only person who has difficulty getting their Mini into reverse. Almost every morning I have about 4 or 5 attempts to wrestle the gear stick into reverse. I am also sure the problem is becoming worse. JS ![]() |
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| In exile, down SOUTH! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London WC1 Local Time: 08:03 AM
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Offline | I believe there had been several reports about difficulty in engaging the reverse gear. Personally, I occassionally have problem engaging it the first time, but no more than other manual cars that I have driven. I normally put the gear back to neutral, de-clutch and try again with 100% success rate for second attempt so far. Try performing a search - I am sure someone has written an essay about "double de-clutch" (or some other technical term) somewhere ![]() DK ![]() |
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| MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 07:03 AM
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Offline | I have the same problem - It just doesn't like going into reverse. De-clutching used to work, but now seems to take a couple of attempts. Slipping the clutch back gently usually get it in (oo-er). I mentioned it to my Dealers when they were doing the linkage, but they said they couldn't find a problem.. |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stirling, Scotland Local Time: 08:03 AM
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Offline | I can't say I've found this fault with my cooper. However on some occasions I have difficulties selecting 1st. To add to the reverse problem though: I had a drive in a cooper S earlier this week. One thing I didn't like was the force needed to select reverse It took three attempts to get it into reverse. Is there anybody else who has driven an S found this or has a better technique ? |
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| Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 08:03 AM
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Offline | Try this (5 speed only) Try depressing the clutch, into 3rd, let out clutch slightly, depress clutch fully again then into reverse. You should be able to get reverse easier! It was posted here somewhere something about 3rd and reverse being closer together as gears. It may even work by just selecting 3rd and then straight into reverse without letting the clutch slightly out first. My wifes Fiat Seicento does this as well, but, same as MINI, only sometimes. |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 07:03 AM
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Offline | First time I tried getting into reverse in the 'S' I was doing it slowly moving the lever over to the left until I hit the detent, then started pushing...and pushing....and it was almost impossible However - I have been experimenting, and have discovered that if you sort of take a swinging swipe at the gear lever and batter it across the detent, it goes in quite easily....all seems a bit brutal, though Goodness knows what was wrong with a push down/lift up detent... Better that than dropping the clutch at 4,000 rpm thinking you're in first, when in fact you're in reverse John It's electric blue and it's really very speedy ![]() http://www.mini2.com/gallery/persona...signature4.jpg |
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| MINI2 Master | I've had trouble once or twice but my old Geo Metro had the same sort of thing. As others have stated, I sometimes find it helps to put it into 2nd or 3rd before trying reverse -- for some reason this helps. Still haven't got my recall notice on the linkage... anyone in Canada get one yet I wonder? Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Local Time: 02:03 AM
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Offline | Put it in neutral then I've had the same problems on all manual transmissions. Either put it in 1st gear and move forward slightly, then try reverse as normal. or Put in neutral, and "forcefully slam" the shift towards the side where 1st gear is, then back to the reverse side. Bring the gearshift easily into reverse. Before anyone goes nuts with my "forcefully slam" - You aren't trying to break the stick, just wiggle the stick from one side to another. A little forceful slam from side to side is quicker. |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Local Time: 02:03 AM
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Offline | This difficulty is common to the S, not really considered a fault, and has been mentioned before. John has found the most common solution, just give the stick a little smack through the detent. Steve Cooper S: Pure silver/black, Premium, Sport, Black leatherette, 17" R90, 4/19 build, 5/24 delivery. |
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| MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 03:03 AM
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Offline | Brand new Mini owner. Having a great time, except that over my 3 weeks of ownership it has gotten to the point where I don't want to park nose-in to anything unless I can roll back out! Is anyone aware of whether the manufacturer has acknowledged any issues with refuse-nik reverse? I guess I won't be buying that house on the dead-end, one way street..... |
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| MINI2 Master | My old MINI was a bugger for being hard to get into reverse. When I first bought it the car was fine with reverse, but it got gradually worse in the last few months of ownership (it was 11 months old when I got shot of it). It got to the point where it crunched 50% of the time I tried to put it into reverse. Touch wood, but the new MINI is fine so far on this subject. ![]() |
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| Two MINI Family Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arlington VA Local Time: 02:03 AM
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Offline | Glad to know I am not the only one with a MINI that hates to go backward. I have trouble nearly every day getting it into reverse - even despite trying just about all the tips here. I've had a manual transmission car my whole life and am quite used to the occasional hesitation, or needing to let the clutch in/out again but I feel like a big dork everytime I am trying to go backwards and the gears end up grinding! Has anyone actually taken their MINI back to the dealer about this? I am just about ready to. I love Isabelle - IB/W Cooper, racing stripes, 5400 miles -and maybe this will just be a quirk she has...... |
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| MINI2 Veteran | Hmmmm, Same problem here, problems in 1st and reverse, but my gearbox needs changing. What i do is put the clutch in, then try reverse, then while holding it in the reverse position, raise the clutch slightly, then when it pops in put the clutch back down. ![]() Focus > Mini One > Mini Cooper > Mini Cooper > BMW 316 > BMW 318 > MINI ONE > BMW 120i > MINI ONE PEPPER! - IM BACK!! |
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| MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 03:03 AM
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Offline | My MC grinds on occasion into reverse too. Someone at Mini just told me that reverse gear does not have a syncro. and sometimes the gears are not lined up giving the grind. So, you should put it in 1st gear first , then into reverse to line the gears up. Double cluching does the same I guess. I'm going to try it now. ![]() |
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| MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheltenham Local Time: 07:03 AM
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Offline | I don't think very many cars DO have a reverse synchro. there's no real need for it, since the car is generally stationary when reverse is selected. The last car I needed to select first before the lever would slip into reverse was a 1939 Citroen Traction Avant. That car at least had the excuse of antiquity. A 21st century car should be better than this. MINI... Another Unreliable Adventure...... |
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