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BRG/Blk Cooper S · Nov 5th, 2006, 07:30 PM

HI all,
I have black half leather in my 2005 Cooper and it now has 12k miles on the clock.
A patch of leather on the drivers seat where it joins the cloth is wearing through - there is no shine in this area just the rough leather under the original smooth finish. I'm careful with the seats and regularly feed them with leather cream etc.

At the moment it's pretty small, however the seats on my Merc (with 96k miles) that I sold prior to the Cooper had perfect seats so why should the Mini's be wearing after only 12k miles?

At what point would it be considered to be a warranty replacement item - anyone else had the same problem?

Thanks, Geoff.

Scrogg · Nov 5th, 2006, 07:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by drainaudio (original)

At what point would it be considered to be a warranty replacement item - anyone else had the same problem?

Sorry to be the bearer of bads new Geoff, but upholstery and the like is only covered under warranty for the first twelve months of a car's life.

Unless your MINI was first registered in November /December 2005 you will have a bit of a battle on your hands getting MINI to pay for a replacement...

Lawrothegreat · Nov 5th, 2006, 07:50 PM

Unless there is a clear manufacturing defect I'm not sure it is a warranty claim - just wear and tear. You may or may not consider this to be acceptable. I have the same half black leather in a Nov 2004 build with nearly 40k miles, and the leather on the driver's side where I get in and out is really worn as though it's a car with 100k miles - all the other leather bits are fine. I'm not sure I understand your exact description though - as mine has worn it has become more shiny.

DaFlake · Nov 6th, 2006, 08:33 AM

I would think that a 2005 should not be showing wear that quickly. I would hit the MINI dealer and have a chat with them on the matter as it does seem to be premature.

Greenie1 · Nov 6th, 2006, 09:45 AM

Got 3,100 miles on my Mini. The half leather on the passenger side was scuffed and looked so so cheap. Dealer replaced leather last week. Its now being picked up today as they did a bad job replacing it last week.

Scrogg · Nov 6th, 2006, 10:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original)

Got 3,100 miles on my Mini. The half leather on the passenger side was scuffed and looked so so cheap. Dealer replaced leather last week. Its now being picked up today as they did a bad job replacing it last week.

Oh dear!

You're really not having much luck, are you?

DaFlake · Nov 6th, 2006, 10:01 AM

It is unfortunate that the leather they use in the MINI is rather cheap.

Greenie1 · Nov 6th, 2006, 11:25 AM

Scrogg - My Cooper got picked up today. They left me a 'One' Automatic.
Aaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!!
They must really hate me!!!!!

DaFlake · Nov 6th, 2006, 11:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original)

Scrogg - My Cooper got picked up today. They left me a 'One' Automatic.
Aaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!!
They must really hate me!!!!!

Their just giving you a taste of the entire MINI experience.

Greenie1 · Nov 6th, 2006, 11:33 AM

What do I do with my left foot?

Greenie1 · Nov 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM

...The guy that came to collect/swap over said after a couple of days of driving the automatic, I'll want to trade my Cooper (manual) in. At that point I fell about laughing. Then I realised, maybe I would be better off as I've had so many problems!!!!

DaFlake · Nov 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM

Doubt it, but they are fun to drive and much more like the go cart that we used to drive as kids.

British SD · Nov 6th, 2006, 07:38 PM

I don't have the cloth/leather. Instead I have the Faux leather..aka Leatherette.
After 2 yrs/40,000km, the drivers seat was cracking badly. I raised this issue during my Inspection 1 and they happily replaced the seat portion under warranty.

From my experience if they assess it's poor seat material verses normal wear and tear, they will replace it.

Nov 5th, 2006, 07:30 PM	#1
BRG/Blk Cooper S w' all the toys.. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 591 Offline	How much seat wear is too much? HI all, I have black half leather in my 2005 Cooper and it now has 12k miles on the clock. A patch of leather on the drivers seat where it joins the cloth is wearing through - there is no shine in this area just the rough leather under the original smooth finish. I'm careful with the seats and regularly feed them with leather cream etc. At the moment it's pretty small, however the seats on my Merc (with 96k miles) that I sold prior to the Cooper had perfect seats so why should the Mini's be wearing after only 12k miles? At what point would it be considered to be a warranty replacement item - anyone else had the same problem? Thanks, Geoff.

Nov 6th, 2006, 08:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 10,652 Offline	I would think that a 2005 should not be showing wear that quickly. I would hit the MINI dealer and have a chat with them on the matter as it does seem to be premature. Global Moderator

Nov 6th, 2006, 10:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 10,652 Offline	It is unfortunate that the leather they use in the MINI is rather cheap. Global Moderator

Nov 6th, 2006, 11:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 10,652 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original) Scrogg - My Cooper got picked up today. They left me a 'One' Automatic. Aaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!! They must really hate me!!!!! Their just giving you a taste of the entire MINI experience. Global Moderator

Nov 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:21 AM Posts: 10,652 Offline	Doubt it, but they are fun to drive and much more like the go cart that we used to drive as kids. Global Moderator

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Nov 5th, 2006, 07:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scrogg Run out of ideas... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 15,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by drainaudio (original) At what point would it be considered to be a warranty replacement item - anyone else had the same problem? Sorry to be the bearer of bads new Geoff, but upholstery and the like is only covered under warranty for the first twelve months of a car's life. Unless your MINI was first registered in November /December 2005 you will have a bit of a battle on your hands getting MINI to pay for a replacement...

Nov 5th, 2006, 07:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lawrothegreat Mini Design Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 780 Offline	Unless there is a clear manufacturing defect I'm not sure it is a warranty claim - just wear and tear. You may or may not consider this to be acceptable. I have the same half black leather in a Nov 2004 build with nearly 40k miles, and the leather on the driver's side where I get in and out is really worn as though it's a car with 100k miles - all the other leather bits are fine. I'm not sure I understand your exact description though - as mine has worn it has become more shiny.

Nov 6th, 2006, 09:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 387 Offline	Got 3,100 miles on my Mini. The half leather on the passenger side was scuffed and looked so so cheap. Dealer replaced leather last week. Its now being picked up today as they did a bad job replacing it last week.

Nov 6th, 2006, 10:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Scrogg Run out of ideas... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 15,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original) Got 3,100 miles on my Mini. The half leather on the passenger side was scuffed and looked so so cheap. Dealer replaced leather last week. Its now being picked up today as they did a bad job replacing it last week. Oh dear! You're really not having much luck, are you?

Nov 6th, 2006, 11:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 387 Offline	Scrogg - My Cooper got picked up today. They left me a 'One' Automatic. Aaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!! They must really hate me!!!!!

Nov 6th, 2006, 11:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 387 Offline	What do I do with my left foot?

Nov 6th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 08:21 AM Posts: 387 Offline	...The guy that came to collect/swap over said after a couple of days of driving the automatic, I'll want to trade my Cooper (manual) in. At that point I fell about laughing. Then I realised, maybe I would be better off as I've had so many problems!!!!

Nov 6th, 2006, 07:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
British SD Northern Monkey! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a Van by da river Local Time: 01:21 AM Posts: 368 Offline	I don't have the cloth/leather. Instead I have the Faux leather..aka Leatherette. After 2 yrs/40,000km, the drivers seat was cracking badly. I raised this issue during my Inspection 1 and they happily replaced the seat portion under warranty. From my experience if they assess it's poor seat material verses normal wear and tear, they will replace it.

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