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Bad Ess · Nov 21st, 2002, 09:53 AM

My heater fan is driving me crazy making an irritating fluctuating howl. In general the MINI fan is noisy but this problem sound occurs in the lowest speed setting. (With the auto air control option.) It is like the speed controller has a resonance? Anyone else?

NEMINI · Nov 21st, 2002, 05:49 PM

No idea ... my radio is never low enough to hear it LOL

Bilbo Baggins · Nov 21st, 2002, 05:59 PM

Don't use the lowest setting. Turn up your radio or open your window. Better yet, stomp on the 'loud' pedal until you can hear the blower whine.

Bad Ess · Nov 22nd, 2002, 08:38 AM

Yea guys, your a lot of help. I can't stand the factory sound system so it's motor noise for music (sweet). This fan noise is apparent when traveling to shop for new componants in traffic. Is my fan defective?

and

Speakers:

A/D/S
Infinity
MB Quart
Pioneer REV

?

DaveNagy · Nov 23rd, 2002, 11:48 PM

Since no one has come forward with a similar complaint, I'd suspect that what you are experiancing is a genuine defect. (The MINI's fan is alledgedly loud, but doesn't usually do a "fluctuating howl".)

I'd check with my dealer.

-Dave

NickG · Dec 6th, 2002, 09:42 AM

Mine whistles not sure if that counts as a howl.

Bad Ess · Dec 6th, 2002, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickG
Mine whistles not sure if that counts as a howl.

Sort of an electronic whine with a fluxuation? I am going to run it but the dealer soon.

MiniE · Dec 6th, 2002, 03:17 PM

I have the manual control.
When I set the fan speed to 1, it whistle.
If I turn it up to 2 and above. it is gone.

This is driving me crazy.

I tend to shut it off or turn it up now.

NickG · Dec 6th, 2002, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniE
I have the manual control.
When I set the fan speed to 1, it whistle.
If I turn it up to 2 and above. it is gone.

This is driving me crazy.

I tend to shut it off or turn it up now.

I have auto control, but mine is exactly the same as this, I turn it to manual to get rid of the whistle.

MiNiGuY · Dec 8th, 2002, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bad Ess
My heater fan is driving me crazy making an irritating fluctuating howl. In general the MINI fan is noisy but this problem sound occurs in the lowest speed setting. (With the auto air control option.) It is like the speed controller has a resonance? Anyone else?

I don't know how old your car is, but for people who have recieved a new mini in the last 2 months and have noticed a whistle from the heater/aircon, this is why:-

BMW tried to 'costcut' by removing a strip of foam from a control surface within the Hvac assembly.

It was discovered that this caused the Hvac to 'whistle' during operation.
All cars that were still in the factory were put to one side and rectified.
The foam strip was then promptly included in assembly once again.

It is likely that some cars were transported before this side effect was discovered.
Anyone with a new mini purchased within the last 2 months, who expierience Hvac whistle, should see their dealer and explain what I have just posted.

p.s anyone with an older car, experiencing Hvac whistle, it is likely that this strip of foam is the cause anyway, probably due to incorrect fitment.
See your dealer also.

All the best.

Bad Ess · Dec 9th, 2002, 09:16 AM

Mine was built on Sept 6 03. Is this the time frame?

MiNiGuY · Dec 10th, 2002, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bad Ess
Mine was built on Sept 6 02. Is this the time frame?

Borderline possibility.

Bad Ess · Dec 30th, 2002, 10:03 PM

Hi, I heard you are now an independant. Good luck in the future. Your info has been a big help.

If it not too much to ask could you elaborate on the missing foam in my fan box. I am under the dash now to wire my stereo and might just take this on.

Thanks in advance.

tip · Dec 30th, 2002, 10:22 PM

I have manual set up, I keep mine set at the second or third settings only. No problems with it so far.

Charles

MiNiGuY · Dec 31st, 2002, 03:15 PM

The problem was only found on auto aircon cars, but you could still check if you wish.

The glove box needs to be removed. The airflow flap can then be seen in the area behind it.

The foam strip should be across the flap at the hinged side. The idea is that the strip is pinched when the flap closes preventing air flow past the flap on that side which is what causes the whistle.

Its a bit of a tricky one to explain in words, but you should understand it when you look.

minirossa · Dec 31st, 2002, 07:52 PM

Bad Ess & MiNiGuY,

Got the same problem on my Cooper with Auto A/C. Only noticable on the lowest fan speed.

It is a June build car.

Funny thing is; my fan noise started a couple of months after I bought the car. Did not notice it when it was new.

Bad Ess · Dec 31st, 2002, 09:17 PM

Thanks MiNiGuY,

As I said mine is auto con etc. I will dig into the under side of the dash and see what is up. Happy New Year and
Cheers,

Bad Ess · Jan 2nd, 2003, 12:55 PM

MiNiGuY...I have the glove box out (no problem) and I am looking at the recirculator vent flap? It is foam covered on the side facing out. Should I be looking at the hinge area on this?

Thanks in advance...

Chris Williams · Jan 9th, 2003, 10:23 PM

I've had mine sorted out, had just the same problem with my climate auto ac, the dealer told me that it was to do with the back mechanism of one of the vents...very annoying whistle which I am very happy to have got rid of!! Sadly when dismantling the dashboard and the glovebox, the glovebox now rattles like nobodys business!! So trip to the dealer tomorrow to rectify the problem!

Regards
Christopher

Bad Ess · Jan 10th, 2003, 02:18 PM

Chris, Anymore info on the fix for the DIY guy? Does you dealer have e-mail?

Nov 21st, 2002, 09:53 AM	#1
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Heater fan howls at lowest setting. My heater fan is driving me crazy making an irritating fluctuating howl. In general the MINI fan is noisy but this problem sound occurs in the lowest speed setting. (With the auto air control option.) It is like the speed controller has a resonance? Anyone else? Ess

Nov 21st, 2002, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
NEMINI NEMINI.org Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 09:09 PM Posts: 7,911 Offline	No idea ... my radio is never low enough to hear it LOL NEMINI.org, NEMINI.us, NEMINI.info, NYMINI.org

Nov 21st, 2002, 05:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 8,854 Offline	Don't use the lowest setting. Turn up your radio or open your window. Better yet, stomp on the 'loud' pedal until you can hear the blower whine. Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired)

Nov 22nd, 2002, 08:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Yea guys, your a lot of help. I can't stand the factory sound system so it's motor noise for music (sweet). This fan noise is apparent when traveling to shop for new componants in traffic. Is my fan defective? and Speakers: A/D/S Infinity MB Quart Pioneer REV ? Ess

Dec 6th, 2002, 11:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by NickG Mine whistles not sure if that counts as a howl. Sort of an electronic whine with a fluxuation? I am going to run it but the dealer soon. Ess

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Nov 23rd, 2002, 11:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
DaveNagy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasanton, Californ Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 223 Offline	Since no one has come forward with a similar complaint, I'd suspect that what you are experiancing is a genuine defect. (The MINI's fan is alledgedly loud, but doesn't usually do a "fluctuating howl".) I'd check with my dealer. -Dave

Dec 6th, 2002, 09:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
NickG MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW England Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 306 Offline	Mine whistles not sure if that counts as a howl.

Dec 6th, 2002, 03:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
MiniE MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver Local Time: 07:09 PM Posts: 178 Offline	I have the manual control. When I set the fan speed to 1, it whistle. If I turn it up to 2 and above. it is gone. This is driving me crazy. I tend to shut it off or turn it up now. Mini E Vancouver Mini Cooper Club

Dec 6th, 2002, 07:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
NickG MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW England Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 306 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by MiniE I have the manual control. When I set the fan speed to 1, it whistle. If I turn it up to 2 and above. it is gone. This is driving me crazy. I tend to shut it off or turn it up now. I have auto control, but mine is exactly the same as this, I turn it to manual to get rid of the whistle.

Dec 8th, 2002, 11:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
MiNiGuY MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 808 Offline	Re: Heater fan howls at lowest setting. Quote: Originally posted by Bad Ess My heater fan is driving me crazy making an irritating fluctuating howl. In general the MINI fan is noisy but this problem sound occurs in the lowest speed setting. (With the auto air control option.) It is like the speed controller has a resonance? Anyone else? I don't know how old your car is, but for people who have recieved a new mini in the last 2 months and have noticed a whistle from the heater/aircon, this is why:- BMW tried to 'costcut' by removing a strip of foam from a control surface within the Hvac assembly. It was discovered that this caused the Hvac to 'whistle' during operation. All cars that were still in the factory were put to one side and rectified. The foam strip was then promptly included in assembly once again. It is likely that some cars were transported before this side effect was discovered. Anyone with a new mini purchased within the last 2 months, who expierience Hvac whistle, should see their dealer and explain what I have just posted. p.s anyone with an older car, experiencing Hvac whistle, it is likely that this strip of foam is the cause anyway, probably due to incorrect fitment. See your dealer also. All the best.

Dec 9th, 2002, 09:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Mine was built on Sept 6 03. Is this the time frame? Ess

Dec 10th, 2002, 11:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
MiNiGuY MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 808 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Bad Ess Mine was built on Sept 6 02. Is this the time frame? Borderline possibility.

Dec 30th, 2002, 10:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	MiNiGuY Hi, I heard you are now an independant. Good luck in the future. Your info has been a big help. If it not too much to ask could you elaborate on the missing foam in my fan box. I am under the dash now to wire my stereo and might just take this on. Thanks in advance. Ess

Dec 30th, 2002, 10:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
tip Motor On! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto Local Time: 09:09 PM Posts: 836 Offline	I have manual set up, I keep mine set at the second or third settings only. No problems with it so far. Charles BRG/W MCS

Dec 31st, 2002, 03:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
MiNiGuY MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 808 Offline	Bad Ess The problem was only found on auto aircon cars, but you could still check if you wish. The glove box needs to be removed. The airflow flap can then be seen in the area behind it. The foam strip should be across the flap at the hinged side. The idea is that the strip is pinched when the flap closes preventing air flow past the flap on that side which is what causes the whistle. Its a bit of a tricky one to explain in words, but you should understand it when you look.

Dec 31st, 2002, 07:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
minirossa MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Francisco Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 378 Offline	Bad Ess & MiNiGuY, Got the same problem on my Cooper with Auto A/C. Only noticable on the lowest fan speed. It is a June build car. Funny thing is; my fan noise started a couple of months after I bought the car. Did not notice it when it was new. Life is short! Why drive a boring car?! Indi blue/white Cooper;Sport & Premium packages.

Dec 31st, 2002, 09:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Thanks MiNiGuY, As I said mine is auto con etc. I will dig into the under side of the dash and see what is up. Happy New Year and Cheers, Ess

Jan 2nd, 2003, 12:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	MiNiGuY...I have the glove box out (no problem) and I am looking at the recirculator vent flap? It is foam covered on the side facing out. Should I be looking at the hinge area on this? Thanks in advance... Ess

Jan 9th, 2003, 10:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
Chris Williams MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 796 Offline	I've had mine sorted out, had just the same problem with my climate auto ac, the dealer told me that it was to do with the back mechanism of one of the vents...very annoying whistle which I am very happy to have got rid of!! Sadly when dismantling the dashboard and the glovebox, the glovebox now rattles like nobodys business!! So trip to the dealer tomorrow to rectify the problem! Regards Christopher

Jan 10th, 2003, 02:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bad Ess MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Hampshire Seacoa Local Time: 10:09 PM Posts: 430 Offline	Chris, Anymore info on the fix for the DIY guy? Does you dealer have e-mail? Ess

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