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CooperLuv · Jan 17th, 2003, 05:19 PM

Hi,
I was wondering if any of you had the same experience. I parked my car, turned off the ignition, and removed the key and locked the door without paying much attention. When I got out of the car and locked the door, my friend said the engine was still on! I looked and there it was, still running! The lights were all off(though I couldn't say for sure since I was all panicked, angry, etc. to calmly think!). I unlocked the door and inserted the key, turned the key to the far right (since it wouldn't do the supposed 'starting' of the engine this time) and then turned it off. The engine turned off this time, but this experience left me freaking about cooper! Plus the lurching/near-stalling/stalling problems? I'm not sure what I would do if I face any MORE problems...

here2help · Jan 17th, 2003, 05:36 PM

Hi cooperluv

There is a mechanical link between the lock barrel and the ignition,s electrical switch ..I have had it before on bm's when the link rod can become detached/missaligned and when you turn youre key to the fully left position the electric switch does'nt go all the way to the left in unison..and remains in the ignition on state...if you take out the key and put it back in as you did it normally cures it...for now! It generally means youre ignition housing assemmbly is on it's way out..but i would'nt of thought that on a new mini..the ignition housing is what the barrel sits in and the switch is mounted to...i have had it before so that i have had to remove the steering cowls and the switch in order to manually pull out the connecting rod from the barrel to the switch..Nightmare!

Anyway i hope this may help you...
cheers

CooperLuv · Jan 17th, 2003, 05:47 PM

Thanks for the fast reply, here2help.
I have my first appointment today for the recall, and I have a long list of *SOME* of the problems with cooper already, all thanks to you and others' tips on this board. I would definitely ask them to update the software. Oh, by the way, all these fixes/updates are covered by the warranty, right? I wish I could use the 'mechanical terms' to discuss (and preferably, harass!

) with the mechanic -- they are usually not very informative or as helpful to car-ignorant people like me!

cooper4us · Jan 17th, 2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CooperLuv
Thanks for the fast reply, here2help.
I have my first appointment today for the recall, and I have a long list of *SOME* of the problems with cooper already, all thanks to you and others' tips on this board. I would definitely ask them to update the software. Oh, by the way, all these fixes/updates are covered by the warranty, right? I wish I could use the 'mechanical terms' to discuss (and preferably, harass! ) with the mechanic -- they are usually not very informative or as helpful to car-ignorant people like me!

Yes, your limited new car warranty should cover for any required DME software updates.

How long is the warranty coverage in Canada?

Here in the US we get 4 years/50,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty plus 3 years/36,000 miles free scheduled maintenance.

CooperLuv · Jan 17th, 2003, 06:26 PM

In Canada, we have limited warranty of 4 years/80,000km. But I'm not sure about the scheduled maintenance..

HarryHBMCC · Jan 17th, 2003, 06:29 PM

No free maint. here but perhaps they give it to you on the west coast. Still a 4/year 80000km (50000mile) warranty though (trying very hard to make it last 4 years but the mileage is creeping up...).

Hope they get all your problems solved ASAP.

Harry

retroom · Jan 17th, 2003, 07:34 PM

Are you sure it wasn't the radiator cooling fans running and not the engine?

Don't take offense just thought I'd throw this out there.

retroom

CooperLuv · Jan 18th, 2003, 04:29 AM

offense? none taken

I'm pretty sure it was the engine, but if it was the cooling fan, is it normal to vibrate like that after the engine was off?? Hmmm...

retroom · Jan 18th, 2003, 05:31 AM

When my car is idling I barely feel any vibration. Strange...let us know if it happens again.

retroom

leicacat · Aug 23rd, 2003, 07:20 PM

My 2003 Cooper (have it 2 weeks) just did the same thing. (It was like a Stephen King story.) It is now at the service center; tey won't get to it for a few days. It was definitely the engine on, not the fan.

Jan 17th, 2003, 05:19 PM	#1
CooperLuv MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Local Time: 01:32 AM Posts: 9 Offline	Engine switched off+ key out = engine still ON! Hi, I was wondering if any of you had the same experience. I parked my car, turned off the ignition, and removed the key and locked the door without paying much attention. When I got out of the car and locked the door, my friend said the engine was still on! I looked and there it was, still running! The lights were all off(though I couldn't say for sure since I was all panicked, angry, etc. to calmly think!). I unlocked the door and inserted the key, turned the key to the far right (since it wouldn't do the supposed 'starting' of the engine this time) and then turned it off. The engine turned off this time, but this experience left me freaking about cooper! Plus the lurching/near-stalling/stalling problems? I'm not sure what I would do if I face any MORE problems... Last edited by CooperLuv : Jan 17th, 2003 at 05:33 PM.

Jan 17th, 2003, 05:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
CooperLuv MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Local Time: 01:32 AM Posts: 9 Offline	Thanks for the fast reply Thanks for the fast reply, here2help. I have my first appointment today for the recall, and I have a long list of SOME of the problems with cooper already, all thanks to you and others' tips on this board. I would definitely ask them to update the software. Oh, by the way, all these fixes/updates are covered by the warranty, right? I wish I could use the 'mechanical terms' to discuss (and preferably, harass! ) with the mechanic -- they are usually not very informative or as helpful to car-ignorant people like me!

Jan 17th, 2003, 06:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 04:32 AM Posts: 1,423 Offline	Re: Thanks for the fast reply Quote: Originally posted by CooperLuv Thanks for the fast reply, here2help. I have my first appointment today for the recall, and I have a long list of SOME of the problems with cooper already, all thanks to you and others' tips on this board. I would definitely ask them to update the software. Oh, by the way, all these fixes/updates are covered by the warranty, right? I wish I could use the 'mechanical terms' to discuss (and preferably, harass! ) with the mechanic -- they are usually not very informative or as helpful to car-ignorant people like me! Yes, your limited new car warranty should cover for any required DME software updates. How long is the warranty coverage in Canada? Here in the US we get 4 years/50,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty plus 3 years/36,000 miles free scheduled maintenance. '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

Jan 17th, 2003, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
CooperLuv MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Local Time: 01:32 AM Posts: 9 Offline	Warranty In Canada, we have limited warranty of 4 years/80,000km. But I'm not sure about the scheduled maintenance..

Jan 17th, 2003, 06:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 04:32 AM Posts: 2,686 Offline	No free maint. here but perhaps they give it to you on the west coast. Still a 4/year 80000km (50000mile) warranty though (trying very hard to make it last 4 years but the mileage is creeping up...). Hope they get all your problems solved ASAP. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

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Jan 17th, 2003, 05:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
here2help MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 09:32 AM Posts: 540 Offline	Hi cooperluv There is a mechanical link between the lock barrel and the ignition,s electrical switch ..I have had it before on bm's when the link rod can become detached/missaligned and when you turn youre key to the fully left position the electric switch does'nt go all the way to the left in unison..and remains in the ignition on state...if you take out the key and put it back in as you did it normally cures it...for now! It generally means youre ignition housing assemmbly is on it's way out..but i would'nt of thought that on a new mini..the ignition housing is what the barrel sits in and the switch is mounted to...i have had it before so that i have had to remove the steering cowls and the switch in order to manually pull out the connecting rod from the barrel to the switch..Nightmare! Anyway i hope this may help you... cheers

Jan 17th, 2003, 07:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
retroom MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunnyvale, Ca. Local Time: 01:32 AM Posts: 559 Offline	Are you sure it wasn't the radiator cooling fans running and not the engine? Don't take offense just thought I'd throw this out there. retroom 2003 MC,LY/W, sport package, wht wheels, cruise, chrome, Kaleido cloth/black, OB computer

Jan 18th, 2003, 04:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
CooperLuv MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Local Time: 01:32 AM Posts: 9 Offline	well.. offense? none taken I'm pretty sure it was the engine, but if it was the cooling fan, is it normal to vibrate like that after the engine was off?? Hmmm...

Jan 18th, 2003, 05:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
retroom MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunnyvale, Ca. Local Time: 01:32 AM Posts: 559 Offline	When my car is idling I barely feel any vibration. Strange...let us know if it happens again. retroom 2003 MC,LY/W, sport package, wht wheels, cruise, chrome, Kaleido cloth/black, OB computer

Aug 23rd, 2003, 07:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
leicacat MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Millersville, PA Local Time: 04:32 AM Posts: 1 Offline	My 2003 Cooper (have it 2 weeks) just did the same thing. (It was like a Stephen King story.) It is now at the service center; tey won't get to it for a few days. It was definitely the engine on, not the fan.

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