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kshapiro · Apr 19th, 2003, 06:36 AM

I know that rattles have been addressed before, and I have looked at all the FAQs and DIYs...even did a search, but my question is somewhat more specific. My rattle is not at the reflector as many seem to have been. My driver's door "buzzes" along the trailing edge it seems, but I can't seem to actually locate it. When the door is open (car stopped...not that dumb), and I tap on the trailing lower edge, there is a vibration...a buzzing. I haven't removed the panel yet, but I'm assuming (bad idea according to the late Benny Hill), there's a pin down there that needs some help or replacement. Just wondering if anybody had this "buzz" and addressed it.

Thanks in advance!

retroom · Apr 19th, 2003, 01:38 PM

Yes, but you are losing it just a quickly as you got it!

retroom

IMAXMINI · Apr 20th, 2003, 12:31 AM

I posted earlier but haven't seen a response yet. Hoping someone here might be able to help...
Had the dealer fix the seat belt adjuster rattle. Their solution was to load it up with grease which didn't really fix the problem and created a new one that is much worse: Their grease gets all over the seat belt everytime it is retracted. Do you know how to get the B pillar cover off? I gotta get that grease outta there!

kshapiro · Apr 20th, 2003, 12:53 AM

Obehave;

I'm going out there now to rip the panel off and tape it. I'll report back later. The armrest thing didn't make a difference though.

Hat · Apr 20th, 2003, 01:46 AM

i thought i had a door panel buzz, then i realised it was my sunglasses in the cubby to the right of the steering wheel.

Hey it's worth checking these things - noise travels strangely in a car

kshapiro · Apr 20th, 2003, 07:45 AM

Well, mine was NOT the styrofoam. The panel already had some black tape along the trailing lower edge of the panel, below the styrofoam. I added about four layers of electrical tape on top of the tape that was there, slapped everything back together, and voila! The buzz be gone!!! Thanks Obehave for your input.

"aV-1" · Apr 20th, 2003, 08:57 AM

can anyone tell me how to get the panel out? hehe..
i got the same buzzED too , i HATE IT!

kshapiro · Apr 21st, 2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by obehave
You have 4 T-35 torx screws. # you can see easily in the door recess. The fourth is hidden behind that small reflector by the door lock button. A small flat blade will pop that right out. 2 short ones at the back and 2 longer ones at the front.
Roll the window all the way down.
Grab the small raised spot all the way to the front of the door, on top.
Give it a sharp tug. That will pop the first clip or 2. The just work your way around the door.
Then lift it over the lock button.

Reverse that for installation. I have noticed you can pop the door handle tweeter ring combo out trying to get the door back on. It just pops back in, just be a little careful.

I didn't have the tape that kshapiro mentioned.
He hasn't done his car profile (hint hint so I don't know if it's newer than mine or not. If it is maybe they are aware of the problem at the factory.
Tape of felt either one should work. Although paper tape will get brittle quickly so use something more durable.

They're T-30s , not 35s. Go to the technical section in the header of MINI2 here, and then go to the DYI section. There's an excellent section on removing door panels (by MONSTA I believe). I removed the tweeter/door handle surround (as suggested) before I removed the panel.

How do I do my "car profile"? My car is one of the world's first MCSs...built on 3/1/02.

MINIAC · Apr 21st, 2003, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kshapiro

How do I do my "car profile"? My car is one of the world's first MCSs...built on 3/1/02.

Just click here

retroom · Apr 21st, 2003, 11:01 PM

obehave,
Do you think weatherstripping would work in place of felt or tape or would it be too thick?

Thanks,

retroom

KenL · Apr 23rd, 2003, 03:37 AM

Do you think Velcro Tape (the fluffy side - can't remember if that's the hook or loop side) would work well? It has good adhesive on it and wouldn't go brittle

On your pics do you have tape over the clips in the doors?

My dealer has had two attempts at fixing this. Both times it's worked for a week or so but come back. I think they've been putting grease on bits which ain't a permanent solution.

Thanks, KenL

CurtP · Apr 23rd, 2003, 08:39 AM

I just ordered 10' of 2" wide, 1/8" thick adhesived backed F-13 gray felt from McMaster-Carr. It was 74¢/ft, part number 87555K16.

I bought it to help stifle some of the annoying noises (other than what eminates from the passenger side seat when it's occupied)

Thanks for the tip Obe!

retroom · Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:23 PM

obehave,

Thanks, I didn't realize the material used to insulate could be that thin.

retroom

KenL · Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:07 PM

Couple more questions, sorry.

Do any of the clips break when you yank off the door panel?

Is it easy to get the panel off and on, is it a one person job or do you need help?

kshapiro · Apr 24th, 2003, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KenL
Couple more questions, sorry.

Do any of the clips break when you yank off the door panel?

Is it easy to get the panel off and on, is it a one person job or do you need help?

No, yes, no.

kshapiro · Apr 24th, 2003, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KenL
Couple more questions, sorry.

Do any of the clips break when you yank off the door panel?

Is it easy to get the panel off and on, is it a one person job or do you need help?

Actually.no, yes, yes, no.

IBMiniG · Apr 24th, 2003, 01:26 AM

Obehave, thanks for all the info, I was getting tired of keeping my elbow on the door panel.

CurtP, just ordered some felt tape, I have been looking for that stuff. Funny it was on catalogue page #3214, must be a BIG catalogue!

I will give a full report once this next project is done....

KenL · Apr 24th, 2003, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kshapiro
Actually.no, yes, yes, no.

Thanx, thanx, thanx & thanx

CurtP · Apr 24th, 2003, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IBMiniG
CurtP, just ordered some felt tape, I have been looking for that stuff. Funny it was on catalogue page #3214, must be a BIG catalogue!

The catalog is *HUGE*! I have a fairly new one too. I should take a picture of that monster and post it

Just as a FYI, the F-13 denotes the quality of the felt. The lower the number, the higher density and better quality it is. I figured for the function I'm going to use it, the F-13 was high enough quality while remaining pretty inexpensive. I also thought that if it was a bit less dense, it would compress better as well -- 1/8" seems pretty thick.

McMaster-Carr rocks. I can find just about anything I need, especially stainless steel screws, nuts and bolts, cheaper than I can get locally including the shipping. They're fast too -- I ordered yesterday evening, and was just informed the box was sitting on the doorstep already!

I will have to wait to see if I will still have a buzzing passenger door panel though -- it's finally getting replaced by the dealership! Whoot!

kshapiro · Apr 28th, 2003, 06:25 AM

My "fix" didn't last. The buzz reappeared late last week. So...I took the panel off again, removed my layers of electrical tape (they were coming loose anyway, and put very thin adhesive backed foam weatherstripping (like 1/8") on the styrofoam at the upper rear corner and along the upper trailing edge. Seems to have done the trick; the panel definitely went on tighter too.

Apr 19th, 2003, 06:36 AM	#1
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Door Rattle Gurus...Please Help I know that rattles have been addressed before, and I have looked at all the FAQs and DIYs...even did a search, but my question is somewhat more specific. My rattle is not at the reflector as many seem to have been. My driver's door "buzzes" along the trailing edge it seems, but I can't seem to actually locate it. When the door is open (car stopped...not that dumb), and I tap on the trailing lower edge, there is a vibration...a buzzing. I haven't removed the panel yet, but I'm assuming (bad idea according to the late Benny Hill), there's a pin down there that needs some help or replacement. Just wondering if anybody had this "buzz" and addressed it. Thanks in advance! Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Apr 19th, 2003, 01:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
retroom MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunnyvale, Ca. Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 559 Offline	Yes, but you are losing it just a quickly as you got it! retroom 2003 MC,LY/W, sport package, wht wheels, cruise, chrome, Kaleido cloth/black, OB computer

Apr 20th, 2003, 12:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
IMAXMINI MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 79 Offline	Door Rattle or seat belt I posted earlier but haven't seen a response yet. Hoping someone here might be able to help... Had the dealer fix the seat belt adjuster rattle. Their solution was to load it up with grease which didn't really fix the problem and created a new one that is much worse: Their grease gets all over the seat belt everytime it is retracted. Do you know how to get the B pillar cover off? I gotta get that grease outta there!

Apr 20th, 2003, 12:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Obehave; I'm going out there now to rip the panel off and tape it. I'll report back later. The armrest thing didn't make a difference though. Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Apr 20th, 2003, 07:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Well, mine was NOT the styrofoam. The panel already had some black tape along the trailing lower edge of the panel, below the styrofoam. I added about four layers of electrical tape on top of the tape that was there, slapped everything back together, and voila! The buzz be gone!!! Thanks Obehave for your input. Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

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Apr 20th, 2003, 01:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Hat cook pass babtridge My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 04:24 AM Posts: 15,886 Offline	i thought i had a door panel buzz, then i realised it was my sunglasses in the cubby to the right of the steering wheel. Hey it's worth checking these things - noise travels strangely in a car

Apr 20th, 2003, 08:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
"aV-1" MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 61 Offline	can anyone tell me how to get the panel out? hehe.. i got the same buzzED too , i HATE IT! Cosmo Black & white "COOPER" Sony enclosure sub & speaker, Mb quartz :rear & tweeter, Pioneer Indash DVD player ,xenon: interior,indicator,sidemarker , whitesidemarker, chrome sidevent, Nology wire, 17 Bling bling rims,H&R spring

Apr 21st, 2003, 06:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by obehave You have 4 T-35 torx screws. # you can see easily in the door recess. The fourth is hidden behind that small reflector by the door lock button. A small flat blade will pop that right out. 2 short ones at the back and 2 longer ones at the front. Roll the window all the way down. Grab the small raised spot all the way to the front of the door, on top. Give it a sharp tug. That will pop the first clip or 2. The just work your way around the door. Then lift it over the lock button. Reverse that for installation. I have noticed you can pop the door handle tweeter ring combo out trying to get the door back on. It just pops back in, just be a little careful. I didn't have the tape that kshapiro mentioned. He hasn't done his car profile (hint hint so I don't know if it's newer than mine or not. If it is maybe they are aware of the problem at the factory. Tape of felt either one should work. Although paper tape will get brittle quickly so use something more durable. They're T-30s , not 35s. Go to the technical section in the header of MINI2 here, and then go to the DYI section. There's an excellent section on removing door panels (by MONSTA I believe). I removed the tweeter/door handle surround (as suggested) before I removed the panel. How do I do my "car profile"? My car is one of the world's first MCSs...built on 3/1/02. Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Apr 21st, 2003, 06:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 8,528 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by kshapiro How do I do my "car profile"? My car is one of the world's first MCSs...built on 3/1/02. Just click here Last edited by MINIAC : Dec 20th, 2003 at 01:29 AM.

Apr 21st, 2003, 11:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
retroom MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunnyvale, Ca. Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 559 Offline	obehave, Do you think weatherstripping would work in place of felt or tape or would it be too thick? Thanks, retroom 2003 MC,LY/W, sport package, wht wheels, cruise, chrome, Kaleido cloth/black, OB computer

Apr 23rd, 2003, 03:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 04:24 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	Do you think Velcro Tape (the fluffy side - can't remember if that's the hook or loop side) would work well? It has good adhesive on it and wouldn't go brittle On your pics do you have tape over the clips in the doors? My dealer has had two attempts at fixing this. Both times it's worked for a week or so but come back. I think they've been putting grease on bits which ain't a permanent solution. Thanks, KenL Red/Black R56 Cooper

Apr 23rd, 2003, 08:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
CurtP MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 11:24 PM Posts: 994 Offline	I just ordered 10' of 2" wide, 1/8" thick adhesived backed F-13 gray felt from McMaster-Carr. It was 74¢/ft, part number 87555K16. I bought it to help stifle some of the annoying noises (other than what eminates from the passenger side seat when it's occupied) Thanks for the tip Obe!

Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
retroom MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunnyvale, Ca. Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 559 Offline	obehave, Thanks, I didn't realize the material used to insulate could be that thin. retroom 2003 MC,LY/W, sport package, wht wheels, cruise, chrome, Kaleido cloth/black, OB computer

Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 04:24 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	Couple more questions, sorry. Do any of the clips break when you yank off the door panel? Is it easy to get the panel off and on, is it a one person job or do you need help? Red/Black R56 Cooper

Apr 24th, 2003, 12:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by KenL Couple more questions, sorry. Do any of the clips break when you yank off the door panel? Is it easy to get the panel off and on, is it a one person job or do you need help? No, yes, no. Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Apr 24th, 2003, 12:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by KenL Couple more questions, sorry. Do any of the clips break when you yank off the door panel? Is it easy to get the panel off and on, is it a one person job or do you need help? Actually.no, yes, yes, no. Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Apr 24th, 2003, 01:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
IBMiniG MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 875 Offline	Obehave, thanks for all the info, I was getting tired of keeping my elbow on the door panel. CurtP, just ordered some felt tape, I have been looking for that stuff. Funny it was on catalogue page #3214, must be a BIG catalogue! I will give a full report once this next project is done.... WARNING-Objects in rear view mirror have a tendency to disappear! 9/20 build '03 MCS IB/W/W, everything but the NAV & Sunroof

Apr 24th, 2003, 02:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 04:24 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by kshapiro Actually.no, yes, yes, no. Thanx, thanx, thanx & thanx Red/Black R56 Cooper

Apr 24th, 2003, 03:03 AM	#19 (permalink)
CurtP MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 11:24 PM Posts: 994 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by IBMiniG CurtP, just ordered some felt tape, I have been looking for that stuff. Funny it was on catalogue page #3214, must be a BIG catalogue! The catalog is HUGE! I have a fairly new one too. I should take a picture of that monster and post it Just as a FYI, the F-13 denotes the quality of the felt. The lower the number, the higher density and better quality it is. I figured for the function I'm going to use it, the F-13 was high enough quality while remaining pretty inexpensive. I also thought that if it was a bit less dense, it would compress better as well -- 1/8" seems pretty thick. McMaster-Carr rocks. I can find just about anything I need, especially stainless steel screws, nuts and bolts, cheaper than I can get locally including the shipping. They're fast too -- I ordered yesterday evening, and was just informed the box was sitting on the doorstep already! I will have to wait to see if I will still have a buzzing passenger door panel though -- it's finally getting replaced by the dealership! Whoot!

Apr 28th, 2003, 06:25 AM	#20 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 03:24 AM Posts: 938 Offline	Obehave Was Right ! My "fix" didn't last. The buzz reappeared late last week. So...I took the panel off again, removed my layers of electrical tape (they were coming loose anyway, and put very thin adhesive backed foam weatherstripping (like 1/8") on the styrofoam at the upper rear corner and along the upper trailing edge. Seems to have done the trick; the panel definitely went on tighter too. Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

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