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shadrach · May 7th, 2003, 06:53 AM

I'm reading some reports of transmission failures that require the transmission to be replaced (on largely US roadfly board). Is this a widespread problem? Or, more to the point, how many of you MCS owners have had the need for a new transmission replacement under warranty?

moorlockx · May 7th, 2003, 07:03 AM

I think if you look, you'll find most of the tranny problems are with the 5 speeds. I haven't seen too many MCS 6spd failures.

shadrach · May 7th, 2003, 07:30 AM

Not too many or none? I'd definitely prefer none.

S2000&CooperS · May 7th, 2003, 09:01 AM

I haven't heard of any failures with the 5-speed, except for the cable disconnecting from the transmission which was addressed with a recall - simple fix. Mine feels better than new with over 1 year and 17K miles on it.

I did however read a while back (maybe last year sometime right after the MCS launch) about a few MCS with broken 5th and/or 6th gears

May 7th, 2003, 05:52 PM

There will always be a few that go bad, that kind of thing happens. However, it is not widespread, and the chances of it happening on your car are VERY slim

-Andrew

chiph · May 7th, 2003, 08:00 PM

I've only read about (and seen once) problems with the cables, not the 6-speed box itself.

Chip H.

HarryHBMCC · May 7th, 2003, 11:25 PM

There are failures with the 5-speed for sure. Just had mine replaced a couple weeks ago. Check other threads in this forum and you'll see them.

Here is one:
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=29220

Harry

minitech · May 9th, 2003, 12:26 AM

I HAVE REPLACE SO FAR (SIX) OF THEM AND THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THEM!!!!!!!.......

minitech · May 9th, 2003, 12:26 AM

THERE GOES THE SEVENTH ONE....

shadrach · May 9th, 2003, 12:32 AM

Is the same thing going wrong with the ones you've replaced and are they all the same type of tranny (5 sp/ 6 sp/ CVT)? Or are there a variety of problems for different trannys?
Thanks

HarryHBMCC · May 9th, 2003, 12:37 AM

My new tranny is already a bit hard to get into first from neutral. Hope it is just wearing in...

Still fine getting into reverse and no clanking on hard starts but not impressed. If it eats another tranny soon I'm not sure what I'll do.

Harry

cooper4us · May 9th, 2003, 06:36 AM

I have a 2002 Cooper CVT with 7,000 troublefree miles.

Harry: Sorry to hear about your tranny failure....what happened?

You should upgrade to a CVT or a Cooper S.

HarryHBMCC · May 9th, 2003, 09:57 AM

My car was making a horrible clanking noise in first gear. Must have been slipping teeth or collars or something. Only happened under heavy loads at first but got easier and easier over time until it was quite bad. Hope the shock of those clangs hasn't done any harm to the engine.

I've seen the odd complaint about the Getrag and the CVT too so I'm not sure any are really safe at the moment! Time will tell. I love clutch and gears so the CVT isn't for me but if they have to replace another tranny I might entertain offers of swapping for an S. Or if they want to put a Getrag in mine in place of the Midland Powertrain unit, I'm willing to be a guinea pig

Harry

cooper4us · May 9th, 2003, 10:10 AM

I have read somewhere that the Midland made 5-speed transmissions come with intentionally made glitches by disrupted plant workers.

Harry, maybe the time has come to entertain the idea of a new MCS?

gabe · May 10th, 2003, 12:16 AM

after 24k miles my 5 speed feels better than ever. Remember the 199,000 MINI owners that haven't had tranny problems don't post about it generally

dr remulac · May 10th, 2003, 10:32 AM

could be the driver...

HarryHBMCC · May 10th, 2003, 08:29 PM

If it's replaced under warranty, no questions asked, then MINI/BMW obviously feels it is because of a defect in the part.

My 5-speed never saw anything silly done to it. Driven hard, yes, but that just means asking the tranny to work with the attached engine. If it can't take the max torque of the engine then there is a serious design flaw. And I don't mean with hi rev clutch dumps either, never did one in my car.

Harry

Wave · Sep 30th, 2003, 12:46 AM

The description of teeth slipping in high load was how mine started in 1st gear and progressed quickly until I was disabled, luckily at my home. The dealer claimed this to be somewhat common. I have an early build date 2002. I hope you dont have this.

Wave

minitech · Sep 30th, 2003, 11:22 AM

MINI has told me that they will no longer have that 5 speed tranny in their cars. they will have another manifacture build them. so far i have only seen 2 six speeds fail and that was from lack of oil(cv shaft seal leaking). the six speed in my mind is very well built.

HarryHBMCC · Sep 30th, 2003, 01:46 PM

Yes, we're told that a 5-speed Getrag will replace the 5-speed Midlands Powertrain gearbox but not until sometime next year. Until then, we have to keep hoping our (replacement, in my case) Midlands boxes will last...

Harry

May 7th, 2003, 06:53 AM	#1
shadrach MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Local Time: 11:52 PM Posts: 29 Offline	How widespread are transmission failures? I'm reading some reports of transmission failures that require the transmission to be replaced (on largely US roadfly board). Is this a widespread problem? Or, more to the point, how many of you MCS owners have had the need for a new transmission replacement under warranty?

May 7th, 2003, 07:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
moorlockx MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fayetteville, NC, US Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 884 Offline	I think if you look, you'll find most of the tranny problems are with the 5 speeds. I haven't seen too many MCS 6spd failures. -- '03 S B/W

May 7th, 2003, 08:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
chiph Spectator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Local Time: 02:52 AM Posts: 1,569 Offline	I've only read about (and seen once) problems with the cables, not the 6-speed box itself. Chip H. ex-MINI Cooper S owner and all around good-guy

May 7th, 2003, 11:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 2,578 Offline	There are failures with the 5-speed for sure. Just had mine replaced a couple weeks ago. Check other threads in this forum and you'll see them. Here is one: http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=29220 Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

May 9th, 2003, 12:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
minitech Let's Motor... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester, Mass Local Time: 02:52 AM Posts: 91 Offline	I HAVE REPLACE SO FAR (SIX) OF THEM AND THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THEM!!!!!!!....... *let's motor*

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May 7th, 2003, 07:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
shadrach MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Local Time: 11:52 PM Posts: 29 Offline	Not too many or none? I'd definitely prefer none.

May 7th, 2003, 09:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
S2000&CooperS MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Glen Allen, VA USA Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 954 Offline	I haven't heard of any failures with the 5-speed, except for the cable disconnecting from the transmission which was addressed with a recall - simple fix. Mine feels better than new with over 1 year and 17K miles on it. I did however read a while back (maybe last year sometime right after the MCS launch) about a few MCS with broken 5th and/or 6th gears

May 7th, 2003, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
L8 Apex Posts: n/a	There will always be a few that go bad, that kind of thing happens. However, it is not widespread, and the chances of it happening on your car are VERY slim -Andrew
http://www.mini2.com/forum/

May 9th, 2003, 12:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
minitech Let's Motor... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester, Mass Local Time: 02:52 AM Posts: 91 Offline	THERE GOES THE SEVENTH ONE.... *let's motor*

May 9th, 2003, 12:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
shadrach MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Local Time: 11:52 PM Posts: 29 Offline	transmission failures - which trannys? Is the same thing going wrong with the ones you've replaced and are they all the same type of tranny (5 sp/ 6 sp/ CVT)? Or are there a variety of problems for different trannys? Thanks

May 9th, 2003, 12:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 2,578 Offline	My new tranny is already a bit hard to get into first from neutral. Hope it is just wearing in... Still fine getting into reverse and no clanking on hard starts but not impressed. If it eats another tranny soon I'm not sure what I'll do. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

May 9th, 2003, 06:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 1,423 Offline	I have a 2002 Cooper CVT with 7,000 troublefree miles. Harry: Sorry to hear about your tranny failure....what happened? You should upgrade to a CVT or a Cooper S. '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

May 9th, 2003, 09:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 2,578 Offline	My car was making a horrible clanking noise in first gear. Must have been slipping teeth or collars or something. Only happened under heavy loads at first but got easier and easier over time until it was quite bad. Hope the shock of those clangs hasn't done any harm to the engine. I've seen the odd complaint about the Getrag and the CVT too so I'm not sure any are really safe at the moment! Time will tell. I love clutch and gears so the CVT isn't for me but if they have to replace another tranny I might entertain offers of swapping for an S. Or if they want to put a Getrag in mine in place of the Midland Powertrain unit, I'm willing to be a guinea pig Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

May 9th, 2003, 10:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
cooper4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 1,423 Offline	I have read somewhere that the Midland made 5-speed transmissions come with intentionally made glitches by disrupted plant workers. Harry, maybe the time has come to entertain the idea of a new MCS? '02 MINI Cooper CVT On Order: 2004 MCS (Est production date: 9/5/03)

May 10th, 2003, 12:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
gabe MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, USA Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 280 Offline	after 24k miles my 5 speed feels better than ever. Remember the 199,000 MINI owners that haven't had tranny problems don't post about it generally

May 10th, 2003, 10:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
dr remulac MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: massachusetts Local Time: 02:52 AM Posts: 160 Offline	could be the driver... dr remulac

May 10th, 2003, 08:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 2,578 Offline	If it's replaced under warranty, no questions asked, then MINI/BMW obviously feels it is because of a defect in the part. My 5-speed never saw anything silly done to it. Driven hard, yes, but that just means asking the tranny to work with the attached engine. If it can't take the max torque of the engine then there is a serious design flaw. And I don't mean with hi rev clutch dumps either, never did one in my car. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

Sep 30th, 2003, 12:46 AM	#18 (permalink)
Wave MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clemson, South Carol Local Time: 03:22 AM Posts: 52 Offline	Transmission Gone 21K The description of teeth slipping in high load was how mine started in 1st gear and progressed quickly until I was disabled, luckily at my home. The dealer claimed this to be somewhat common. I have an early build date 2002. I hope you dont have this. Wave

Sep 30th, 2003, 11:22 AM	#19 (permalink)
minitech Let's Motor... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester, Mass Local Time: 02:52 AM Posts: 91 Offline	MINI has told me that they will no longer have that 5 speed tranny in their cars. they will have another manifacture build them. so far i have only seen 2 six speeds fail and that was from lack of oil(cv shaft seal leaking). the six speed in my mind is very well built. *let's motor*

Sep 30th, 2003, 01:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 01:52 AM Posts: 2,578 Offline	Yes, we're told that a 5-speed Getrag will replace the 5-speed Midlands Powertrain gearbox but not until sometime next year. Until then, we have to keep hoping our (replacement, in my case) Midlands boxes will last... Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

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