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Jootec from Mars · Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:35 PM

My Cooper has done 2200miles. Ever since 500 miles (but perhaps always) its had a knocking noise/rattle coming from the engine bay. Unfortunately it only appeared after the car had been driven for a while and at low speeds mainly in 2nd.

As most of my daily drive is at 70mph and very little distance either end of the journey at slow speed, I wasn't sure if it was my imagination. Anyway at about 1700 miles I went to Plymouth to visit the folks. A good hours journey. I drove around Plymouth doing a few chores. My car did not sound good. It sounded more like an old bucket of bolts or a diesel - sorry One D owners.

I took it to my dealers in Exeter and the technician thought it sounded like an engine problem. The first they'd had. So it was booked in for a look-see.

So today was the day it went in. I got a One as a courtesy car. The moment I drove it away I thought, "Wow! That's much nicer than mine". The engine seemed a lot smoother, the gearbox much tighter and easier to get into gear. In fact it was what I was expecting of mine. Odd perhaps when you think the One with 1800 miles on the clock had probably mostly done city driving and mine was motorway driving. The other thing I noticed was the revs. My Cooper does 3200 revs at 70mph, the One around 2950. My Cooper does 3800/3900 revs at 80mph, the One around 500 revs less. I would expect the same as the gearbox is identical.

So has anyone else had dodgy problems like myself. And what revs to you get at 70 and 80mph?

I was expecting a call from the dealer to inform of what was wrong but no call as of yet.

James

KenL · Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:50 PM

The ONE is meant to have lower revs as the final drive ratio is lower.

RustyMan · Feb 24th, 2004, 05:16 PM

Haven't had a knocking noise bu my Cooper with 20000 miles has been reluctant to get into 1st/3rd/5th making a worrying squeek as it does so. Obviously doesn't do it if I book it in at the Exeter dealers but it is concerning. Seem to be getting a squeek from a belt at tickover aswell even though I've just had a new fanbelt put on under warranty.

Try the guys in the Mini sales department as they can get info out of the polite but not very helpful service department.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jootec from Mars

My Cooper has done 2200miles. Ever since 500 miles (but perhaps always) its had a knocking noise/rattle coming from the engine bay. Unfortunately it only appeared after the car had been driven for a while and at low speeds mainly in 2nd.

As most of my daily drive is at 70mph and very little distance either end of the journey at slow speed, I wasn't sure if it was my imagination. Anyway at about 1700 miles I went to Plymouth to visit the folks. A good hours journey. I drove around Plymouth doing a few chores. My car did not sound good. It sounded more like an old bucket of bolts or a diesel - sorry One D owners.

I took it to my dealers in Exeter and the technician thought it sounded like an engine problem. The first they'd had. So it was booked in for a look-see.

So today was the day it went in. I got a One as a courtesy car. The moment I drove it away I thought, "Wow! That's much nicer than mine". The engine seemed a lot smoother, the gearbox much tighter and easier to get into gear. In fact it was what I was expecting of mine. Odd perhaps when you think the One with 1800 miles on the clock had probably mostly done city driving and mine was motorway driving. The other thing I noticed was the revs. My Cooper does 3200 revs at 70mph, the One around 2950. My Cooper does 3800/3900 revs at 80mph, the One around 500 revs less. I would expect the same as the gearbox is identical.

So has anyone else had dodgy problems like myself. And what revs to you get at 70 and 80mph?

I was expecting a call from the dealer to inform of what was wrong but no call as of yet.

James

orangetheripper · Feb 28th, 2004, 06:13 AM

yeah ive had mine for 20k miles and it does that annoying squeak when shifting to 3rd or 5th too...

RustyMan · Feb 28th, 2004, 03:32 PM

Had any good suggestions form the dealer - or anyone ?

MiniCooperS · Feb 28th, 2004, 04:44 PM

Our Cooper, also 20K miles, squeeks and sometimes feels notchy going into 1st,3rd&5th when coming from 2nd & 4th. Belt has also started squeeking. Behaved when at the dealer so they just lubricated under gearstick gaitor. Better but still there.

Root Ginger · Feb 28th, 2004, 08:52 PM

My Works has exactly the same problem you describe. Only really noticed it tonight. In second gear at about 3Kish it makes this rattling noise. I also have the problem of it being difficult to get into 1st. Not 3rd or 5th though.

Ian Clark · Feb 28th, 2004, 09:35 PM

I think you'll find the gearbox easier and lighter on the one for the simple fact it HAS been driving around a city. The amount of gear changes will be enormous as opposed to driving at 70 in 5th. Gear boxes do loosen up with frequent use.

Russ · Dec 17th, 2004, 03:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RustyMan

Haven't had a knocking noise bu my Cooper with 20000 miles has been reluctant to get into 1st/3rd/5th making a worrying squeek as it does so. Obviously doesn't do it if I book it in at the Exeter dealers but it is concerning. Seem to be getting a squeek from a belt at tickover aswell even though I've just had a new fanbelt put on under warranty.

Try the guys in the Mini sales department as they can get info out of the polite but not very helpful service department.

Have you got this gear problem sorted yet? I had the same thing, took it to the dealers and the said that it is because of the linkage. Appaerntly they had to remove the battery and get behind there somewhere.

They did sort it out though

Russ...

pob · Dec 19th, 2004, 08:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge

My Works has exactly the same problem you describe. Only really noticed it tonight. In second gear at about 3Kish it makes this rattling noise. I also have the problem of it being difficult to get into 1st. Not 3rd or 5th though.

My 2003 Cooper does exactly the same - in 2nd at around 3000rpm it sounds like something is going to fall off! It's booked in just after Xmas to be looked at.

pob · Jan 6th, 2005, 11:39 AM

New gearbox fitted yesterday at 2900 miles. Not impressed...

Root Ginger · Jan 6th, 2005, 02:02 PM

Well my rattling problem stopped. But the 1st, 3rd and 5th problem is still there. More noticable in cold weather.

My dealer said BMW are refusing to change any more units for this problem as the problem just comes back

So now I'm stuck with it. Wonder what happens if it fails completely. Glad I took the extended warranty

pob · Jan 6th, 2005, 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge

Well my rattling problem stopped. But the 1st, 3rd and 5th problem is still there. More noticable in cold weather.

My dealer said BMW are refusing to change any more units for this problem as the problem just comes back

So now I'm stuck with it. Wonder what happens if it fails completely. Glad I took the extended warranty

I wouldn't accept that if I were you! They must be changing them as they only changed mine yesterday. The new gearbox is worse than the old one though. The old one may have been noisy but at least I could select gears. Driven 15 miles with the new box and already had problems getting into 1st, but worse than that it keeps baulking 3rd to 4th. It's going back on Monday, but I'm trying to negotiate a buy back of the car with the dealer because of all the problems I've had since new.

Root Ginger · Jan 7th, 2005, 09:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by pob

I wouldn't accept that if I were you! They must be changing them as they only changed mine yesterday. The new gearbox is worse than the old one though. The old one may have been noisy but at least I could select gears. Driven 15 miles with the new box and already had problems getting into 1st, but worse than that it keeps baulking 3rd to 4th. It's going back on Monday, but I'm trying to negotiate a buy back of the car with the dealer because of all the problems I've had since new.

Yes, but as I understand it it wasn't for the difficulty in selecting gears problem. Correct?

If anyone has had one changed for this reason I'd be interested.

Isaidright! · Jan 21st, 2005, 10:06 PM

Be aware that my delear is recalling certain cars due to low gearbox fluid levels - might be worth getting it checked.

ojy · May 11th, 2005, 04:09 PM

New gearbox last week, after rattling, see my other thread..........the new one doesnt rattle but 1st either very smooth or doesn't engage at all.......waiting to see how it loosens up, then back she's going to the dealers..........mine is an 03 Cooper with a Midlands box changed at 18000miles

Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:35 PM	#1
Jootec from Mars MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Devon Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 13 Offline	Cooper Knackerd - gearbox and engine My Cooper has done 2200miles. Ever since 500 miles (but perhaps always) its had a knocking noise/rattle coming from the engine bay. Unfortunately it only appeared after the car had been driven for a while and at low speeds mainly in 2nd. As most of my daily drive is at 70mph and very little distance either end of the journey at slow speed, I wasn't sure if it was my imagination. Anyway at about 1700 miles I went to Plymouth to visit the folks. A good hours journey. I drove around Plymouth doing a few chores. My car did not sound good. It sounded more like an old bucket of bolts or a diesel - sorry One D owners. I took it to my dealers in Exeter and the technician thought it sounded like an engine problem. The first they'd had. So it was booked in for a look-see. So today was the day it went in. I got a One as a courtesy car. The moment I drove it away I thought, "Wow! That's much nicer than mine". The engine seemed a lot smoother, the gearbox much tighter and easier to get into gear. In fact it was what I was expecting of mine. Odd perhaps when you think the One with 1800 miles on the clock had probably mostly done city driving and mine was motorway driving. The other thing I noticed was the revs. My Cooper does 3200 revs at 70mph, the One around 2950. My Cooper does 3800/3900 revs at 80mph, the One around 500 revs less. I would expect the same as the gearbox is identical. So has anyone else had dodgy problems like myself. And what revs to you get at 70 and 80mph? I was expecting a call from the dealer to inform of what was wrong but no call as of yet. James

Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 5,226 Offline	The ONE is meant to have lower revs as the final drive ratio is lower. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Feb 24th, 2004, 05:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
RustyMan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Gearbox Haven't had a knocking noise bu my Cooper with 20000 miles has been reluctant to get into 1st/3rd/5th making a worrying squeek as it does so. Obviously doesn't do it if I book it in at the Exeter dealers but it is concerning. Seem to be getting a squeek from a belt at tickover aswell even though I've just had a new fanbelt put on under warranty. Try the guys in the Mini sales department as they can get info out of the polite but not very helpful service department. Quote: Originally Posted by Jootec from Mars My Cooper has done 2200miles. Ever since 500 miles (but perhaps always) its had a knocking noise/rattle coming from the engine bay. Unfortunately it only appeared after the car had been driven for a while and at low speeds mainly in 2nd. As most of my daily drive is at 70mph and very little distance either end of the journey at slow speed, I wasn't sure if it was my imagination. Anyway at about 1700 miles I went to Plymouth to visit the folks. A good hours journey. I drove around Plymouth doing a few chores. My car did not sound good. It sounded more like an old bucket of bolts or a diesel - sorry One D owners. I took it to my dealers in Exeter and the technician thought it sounded like an engine problem. The first they'd had. So it was booked in for a look-see. So today was the day it went in. I got a One as a courtesy car. The moment I drove it away I thought, "Wow! That's much nicer than mine". The engine seemed a lot smoother, the gearbox much tighter and easier to get into gear. In fact it was what I was expecting of mine. Odd perhaps when you think the One with 1800 miles on the clock had probably mostly done city driving and mine was motorway driving. The other thing I noticed was the revs. My Cooper does 3200 revs at 70mph, the One around 2950. My Cooper does 3800/3900 revs at 80mph, the One around 500 revs less. I would expect the same as the gearbox is identical. So has anyone else had dodgy problems like myself. And what revs to you get at 70 and 80mph? I was expecting a call from the dealer to inform of what was wrong but no call as of yet. James

Feb 28th, 2004, 04:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
MiniCooperS MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kent, UK. Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 77 Offline	Gearbox ok? Our Cooper, also 20K miles, squeeks and sometimes feels notchy going into 1st,3rd&5th when coming from 2nd & 4th. Belt has also started squeeking. Behaved when at the dealer so they just lubricated under gearstick gaitor. Better but still there.

Feb 28th, 2004, 08:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	My Works has exactly the same problem you describe. Only really noticed it tonight. In second gear at about 3Kish it makes this rattling noise. I also have the problem of it being difficult to get into 1st. Not 3rd or 5th though. It was acceptable in the 80's

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Feb 28th, 2004, 06:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
orangetheripper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 18 Offline	yeah ive had mine for 20k miles and it does that annoying squeak when shifting to 3rd or 5th too...

Feb 28th, 2004, 03:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
RustyMan MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Had any good suggestions form the dealer - or anyone ?

Feb 28th, 2004, 09:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ian Clark MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 1,775 Online	I think you'll find the gearbox easier and lighter on the one for the simple fact it HAS been driving around a city. The amount of gear changes will be enormous as opposed to driving at 70 in 5th. Gear boxes do loosen up with frequent use.

Dec 17th, 2004, 03:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Russ Driver Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 89 Offline	1, 3 and 5 Quote: Originally Posted by RustyMan Haven't had a knocking noise bu my Cooper with 20000 miles has been reluctant to get into 1st/3rd/5th making a worrying squeek as it does so. Obviously doesn't do it if I book it in at the Exeter dealers but it is concerning. Seem to be getting a squeek from a belt at tickover aswell even though I've just had a new fanbelt put on under warranty. Try the guys in the Mini sales department as they can get info out of the polite but not very helpful service department. Have you got this gear problem sorted yet? I had the same thing, took it to the dealers and the said that it is because of the linkage. Appaerntly they had to remove the battery and get behind there somewhere. They did sort it out though Russ... http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/Russ/31139.jpg

Dec 19th, 2004, 08:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
pob MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge My Works has exactly the same problem you describe. Only really noticed it tonight. In second gear at about 3Kish it makes this rattling noise. I also have the problem of it being difficult to get into 1st. Not 3rd or 5th though. My 2003 Cooper does exactly the same - in 2nd at around 3000rpm it sounds like something is going to fall off! It's booked in just after Xmas to be looked at.

Jan 6th, 2005, 11:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
pob MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 236 Offline	New gearbox fitted yesterday at 2900 miles. Not impressed...

Jan 6th, 2005, 02:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Well my rattling problem stopped. But the 1st, 3rd and 5th problem is still there. More noticable in cold weather. My dealer said BMW are refusing to change any more units for this problem as the problem just comes back So now I'm stuck with it. Wonder what happens if it fails completely. Glad I took the extended warranty It was acceptable in the 80's

Jan 6th, 2005, 08:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
pob MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ginge Well my rattling problem stopped. But the 1st, 3rd and 5th problem is still there. More noticable in cold weather. My dealer said BMW are refusing to change any more units for this problem as the problem just comes back So now I'm stuck with it. Wonder what happens if it fails completely. Glad I took the extended warranty I wouldn't accept that if I were you! They must be changing them as they only changed mine yesterday. The new gearbox is worse than the old one though. The old one may have been noisy but at least I could select gears. Driven 15 miles with the new box and already had problems getting into 1st, but worse than that it keeps baulking 3rd to 4th. It's going back on Monday, but I'm trying to negotiate a buy back of the car with the dealer because of all the problems I've had since new.

Jan 7th, 2005, 09:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 06:09 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by pob I wouldn't accept that if I were you! They must be changing them as they only changed mine yesterday. The new gearbox is worse than the old one though. The old one may have been noisy but at least I could select gears. Driven 15 miles with the new box and already had problems getting into 1st, but worse than that it keeps baulking 3rd to 4th. It's going back on Monday, but I'm trying to negotiate a buy back of the car with the dealer because of all the problems I've had since new. Yes, but as I understand it it wasn't for the difficulty in selecting gears problem. Correct? If anyone has had one changed for this reason I'd be interested. It was acceptable in the 80's

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Jan 21st, 2005, 10:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
Isaidright! MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 2 Offline	Low transmission fluid level Be aware that my delear is recalling certain cars due to low gearbox fluid levels - might be worth getting it checked.

May 11th, 2005, 04:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
ojy K4 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Durham Local Time: 05:09 PM Posts: 22 Offline	New Box New gearbox last week, after rattling, see my other thread..........the new one doesnt rattle but 1st either very smooth or doesn't engage at all.......waiting to see how it loosens up, then back she's going to the dealers..........mine is an 03 Cooper with a Midlands box changed at 18000miles

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