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Tom D · Apr 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM

I just spoke with MINI USA Customer Service about Version 37. I specifically wanted to know if Version 37 was issued to address the yo-yo problem experienced by many "S" owners. MINI told me that Version 37 IS NOT meant to fix the yo-yo. They said that a yo-yo fix is being actively persued and should be available "soon"

Hindsight is 20-20, I forgot to ask what Version 37 is really for, does anyone know?

swamos · Apr 9th, 2004, 09:06 PM

I have 37, and it doesn't fix the yo yo

pflowers · Apr 9th, 2004, 09:07 PM

Hi

I had V37 loaded yesterday, the tech showed me a sheet which said it was to eliminate poor acceleration between 3,000 and 4,500 rpm i.e. the yo-yo.

My stumble has gone but the yo-yo is MUCH WORSE, I would rather have kept the stumble.

EBMCS03 · Apr 10th, 2004, 01:37 AM

wait so it says its suppose to elimate the yo yo but it made it worse?? OH NO!!! I better MAKE sure they dont put in V.37 when i got into the dealer for a check up... cuz i dont want any yo yo problems... who knows... they might think they'll do me a favor by installing new software on it w/out letting me know...

swamos · Apr 10th, 2004, 03:43 AM

I wouldn't say it's any worse for me. Much the same really - an occasional annoyance

xnetco · Apr 10th, 2004, 08:19 AM

What car's will have v37? Mine has been built this month. Will it include it?

Windshadow · Apr 10th, 2004, 11:31 AM

I was told I have 37 but if that was as built or done by my dealer at prep I do not know
no sign of the yo yo and I have been looking for it
fingers crossed

pflowers · Apr 10th, 2004, 11:39 AM

I am sure that it must be a mechanical fault, if it was software then why would only some do it. All cars with V37 should be equal software wise.

I am glad you have not got it enjoy your car.

LMB · Apr 10th, 2004, 11:57 AM

I've got the stumble but no Yo Yo.

It does my nut.

pflowers · Apr 10th, 2004, 12:10 PM

Quote:

I've got the stumble but no Yo Yo. It does my nut.

If you have no yo-yo you may be ok with V37 as it does cure the stumble. V37 did not cause my yo-yo it just made it much worse than before.

kyriian · Apr 14th, 2004, 03:02 AM

i just had v37 installed today.. and it seems i still got some yoyo, but much less than before.. when i was running the software that came with the car.. dont know what version (mine was a oct 02 build).. the best i had so far about the v37 is the first gear yoyo.. which before was absolutely horrendous... but now its almost smooth.. still not perfect

stumbling is not so bad anymore...

xnetco · Apr 14th, 2004, 07:05 AM

Damn it! When will they fix this damn problem?

Zulu · Apr 14th, 2004, 10:20 PM

If you live in the US and have yoyo and don't like it - I suggest you Lemon Law it.

I just did mine and was awarded a refund.

The Florida Lemon Law Board took the car for a drive and deemed the yoyo to be a substantial impairment to the value of the car.

pflowers · Apr 14th, 2004, 10:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Zulu

If you live in the US and have yoyo and don't like it - I suggest you Lemon Law it.

I just did mine and was awarded a refund.

The Florida Lemon Law Board took the car for a drive and deemed the yoyo to be a substantial impairment to the value of the car.

Good for you, more people like you will hopefully make BMW/MINI get their finger out.

My MCS is in the dealer at the moment, they have assured me they will fix the yo-yo by next Tuesday or I will get a refund / replacement. V37 made my slight yo-yo unbearable.

obehave · Apr 14th, 2004, 10:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Zulu

If you live in the US and have yoyo and don't like it - I suggest you Lemon Law it.

I just did mine and was awarded a refund.

The Florida Lemon Law Board took the car for a drive and deemed the yoyo to be a substantial impairment to the value of the car.

Glad to see you got a good resolution to that.

AmRov · Apr 15th, 2004, 01:51 PM

Also check out this thread on NAM, including the last post from Ryephile -- Tom is correct; apparently, v.37 isn't intended to help with the "yo yo" or surging problem experienced with MCS's -- that "fix" is due at the end of this month (but who knows when it will actually be out).

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...&start=375&397

Apr 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM	#1
Tom D MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Derby, Kansas, USA Local Time: 01:56 AM Posts: 339 Offline	Software Version 37 is out I just spoke with MINI USA Customer Service about Version 37. I specifically wanted to know if Version 37 was issued to address the yo-yo problem experienced by many "S" owners. MINI told me that Version 37 IS NOT meant to fix the yo-yo. They said that a yo-yo fix is being actively persued and should be available "soon" Hindsight is 20-20, I forgot to ask what Version 37 is really for, does anyone know? Tom 02 EB/B MCS

Apr 10th, 2004, 01:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 11:56 PM Posts: 6,763 Offline	wait so it says its suppose to elimate the yo yo but it made it worse?? OH NO!!! I better MAKE sure they dont put in V.37 when i got into the dealer for a check up... cuz i dont want any yo yo problems... who knows... they might think they'll do me a favor by installing new software on it w/out letting me know... EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

Apr 10th, 2004, 11:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Windshadow MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Newcastle Maine Local Time: 02:56 AM Posts: 2,446 Offline	I was told I have 37 but if that was as built or done by my dealer at prep I do not know no sign of the yo yo and I have been looking for it fingers crossed S BRG/W Randolph 3 PAC NAV Mid Coast Maine, U.S.A.

Apr 10th, 2004, 11:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 22,993 Offline	I've got the stumble but no Yo Yo. It does my nut. Global Moderator

Apr 14th, 2004, 03:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
kyriian Dating my S Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Local Time: 01:56 AM Posts: 592 Offline	i just had v37 installed today.. and it seems i still got some yoyo, but much less than before.. when i was running the software that came with the car.. dont know what version (mine was a oct 02 build).. the best i had so far about the v37 is the first gear yoyo.. which before was absolutely horrendous... but now its almost smooth.. still not perfect stumbling is not so bad anymore... 03 Dark Silver MCS w/ White roof

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Apr 9th, 2004, 09:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 4,353 Offline	I have 37, and it doesn't fix the yo yo

Apr 9th, 2004, 09:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
pflowers MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On the M4 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 398 Offline	Hi I had V37 loaded yesterday, the tech showed me a sheet which said it was to eliminate poor acceleration between 3,000 and 4,500 rpm i.e. the yo-yo. My stumble has gone but the yo-yo is MUCH WORSE, I would rather have kept the stumble.

Apr 10th, 2004, 03:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
swamos MINI Traitor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Local Time: 04:56 PM Posts: 4,353 Offline	I wouldn't say it's any worse for me. Much the same really - an occasional annoyance

Apr 10th, 2004, 08:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
xnetco MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 383 Offline	What car's will have v37? Mine has been built this month. Will it include it?

Apr 10th, 2004, 11:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
pflowers MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On the M4 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 398 Offline	I am sure that it must be a mechanical fault, if it was software then why would only some do it. All cars with V37 should be equal software wise. I am glad you have not got it enjoy your car.

Apr 10th, 2004, 12:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
pflowers MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On the M4 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 398 Offline	Quote: I've got the stumble but no Yo Yo. It does my nut. If you have no yo-yo you may be ok with V37 as it does cure the stumble. V37 did not cause my yo-yo it just made it much worse than before.

Apr 14th, 2004, 07:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
xnetco MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 383 Offline	Damn it! When will they fix this damn problem?

Apr 14th, 2004, 10:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zulu MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: S. FL Local Time: 01:56 AM Posts: 226 Offline	If you live in the US and have yoyo and don't like it - I suggest you Lemon Law it. I just did mine and was awarded a refund. The Florida Lemon Law Board took the car for a drive and deemed the yoyo to be a substantial impairment to the value of the car. DS/W MCS 3/03 Awarded LEMON Status The yoyo is deemed to substantially impair the value of the car - by the FL Lemon Law. 4/14/04 In the end the LEMON squeezed itself so BMW can suck the juice.

Apr 14th, 2004, 10:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
pflowers MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On the M4 Local Time: 07:56 AM Posts: 398 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Zulu If you live in the US and have yoyo and don't like it - I suggest you Lemon Law it. I just did mine and was awarded a refund. The Florida Lemon Law Board took the car for a drive and deemed the yoyo to be a substantial impairment to the value of the car. Good for you, more people like you will hopefully make BMW/MINI get their finger out. My MCS is in the dealer at the moment, they have assured me they will fix the yo-yo by next Tuesday or I will get a refund / replacement. V37 made my slight yo-yo unbearable.

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Apr 14th, 2004, 10:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 02:56 AM Posts: 9,254 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Zulu If you live in the US and have yoyo and don't like it - I suggest you Lemon Law it. I just did mine and was awarded a refund. The Florida Lemon Law Board took the car for a drive and deemed the yoyo to be a substantial impairment to the value of the car. Glad to see you got a good resolution to that.

Apr 15th, 2004, 01:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
AmRov Scoopersized! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heart of Texas Local Time: 01:56 AM Posts: 1,505 Offline	Also check out this thread on NAM, including the last post from Ryephile -- Tom is correct; apparently, v.37 isn't intended to help with the "yo yo" or surging problem experienced with MCS's -- that "fix" is due at the end of this month (but who knows when it will actually be out). http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...&start=375&397 Look at that little S car go! [Sold 2/06]

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