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Old Aug 4th, 2006, 09:43 AM
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'Curfew' deal for young motorists

The scheme is aimed at cutting accidents involving young people

An insurance company is allowing young motorists to pay less for insurance if they avoid driving at night.
More Than is offering drivers between 18 and 25 40% off if they do not drive between 2300 and 0600. But it will charge £25 for breaking the "curfew".
Car use is monitored by a device put into the vehicle by the company.
Up to 40% of accidents between 2300 and 0600 involving young drivers result in death or serious injury, compared with 20% at other times, figures show.
'Major issue'
Once installed, the device sends a message to the company whenever the car starts, giving the time and place that the journey started.
A further message is sent when the engine is switched off to confirm the journey has ended.
We need to find more innovative ways of preventing tragic deaths involving young drivers


Mary Williams
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More Than says the policy could save the average young motorist about £300 a year.
However, BBC News personal finance reporter Richard Scott says drivers who repeatedly break the rules and are charged each time could see their savings wiped out.
More Than also says that by reducing the number of young drivers on the road at night, its initiative could help cut accident rates among young drivers by up to 25%.
Spokesman Bryan Turner said: "High accident rates for young drivers on the roads at night are a major issue and we have been working for some time to come up with a solution to reduce these." Mary Williams, chief executive of road safety charity Brake, has welcomed the initiative. She said: "We need to find more innovative ways of preventing tragic deaths involving young drivers and their passengers on our roads."


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Old Aug 4th, 2006, 09:50 AM
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this could work.. limited use except for work purposes..

whats the point of driving Around on the streets at that time anyways.. sure if your coming home from work and so on, but no need for racing around like some do.. saves us money too.. I like that idea..
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Lost too many friends in daft car accidents that could have been avoided.... This is definitely a good thing.

I'd actually like a re-design of the whole 'learning to drive' system. Its entirely possible to pass your test and be granted the freedom of the road with just a couple of hours experience under your belt - how shocking is that!

Driving hours for learners should be logged, just like flight hours are logged for pilots. You should not be allowed to take your test until you have logged 'X' number of hours practice. These needn't be with an instructor...

Then once you have your test, you should be limited to one or two passengers maximum for one year. That will cut out 5 lads piling into a Nova and looning it around like an F1 car.

I know it sounds harsh, but i think to cut the mortality rates for under 21s on our roads, it should be done.
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excellent idea, I wonder if a similar scheme could be done for old people so they can only drive on the roads between 2300 and 0600?

Would make the roads safer full stop, and stop Soggy doing anymore boring Cotswolds runs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey
excellent idea, I wonder if a similar scheme could be done for old people so they can only drive on the roads between 2300 and 0600?

Would make the roads safer full stop, and stop Soggy doing anymore boring Cotswolds runs

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Old Aug 4th, 2006, 10:21 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio
Lost too many friends in daft car accidents that could have been avoided.... This is definitely a good thing.

I'd actually like a re-design of the whole 'learning to drive' system. Its entirely possible to pass your test and be granted the freedom of the road with just a couple of hours experience under your belt - how shocking is that!

Driving hours for learners should be logged, just like flight hours are logged for pilots. You should not be allowed to take your test until you have logged 'X' number of hours practice. These needn't be with an instructor...

Then once you have your test, you should be limited to one or two passengers maximum for one year. That will cut out 5 lads piling into a Nova and looning it around like an F1 car.

I know it sounds harsh, but i think to cut the mortality rates for under 21s on our roads, it should be done.

i agree with the last point about limiting the number of passengers, i can remember from my early days its too easy to get egged on by a load of mates in the back
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That shounds like a brilliant idea; it's entirely voluntary for younger drivers, so they don't have to take it up if they don't like the idea. If it helps stops young lives being wasted on the roads as well it's great news.

Nobody loses from this option

Certainly, if I had a car that cost a huge amount to insure, I'd like to have the option.

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Personally, I'd like to see compulsory re-tests (say, every 10 years) for everyone, of any age, but that's the subject for another thread


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Excellent idea. To be honest, I'd consider it myself if I could save 40%, and I'm 27!
(please don't think I'm making light of the road safety issue, I'm not! )

Not sure why the insurance company needs to know the time and place every journey takes place though Why should they need to know where you are?

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Quote: Originally Posted by deggles

Not sure why the insurance company needs to know the time and place every journey takes place though Why should they need to know where you are?

& there's the concern - what other data is this box capable of logging?
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Quote: Originally Posted by deggles
Not sure why the insurance company needs to know the time and place every journey takes place though Why should they need to know where you are?

I guess it would be helpful for the insurance company to have this sort of information to help against the possible denial by the client that the car was ever used at that time. Come to think of it, if I was being charged £25, I'd like to know what event it related to!

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PS: I would suggest that this is just the beginning; with satellite tracking we can ultimately expect the time when we are charged by the mile for insurance cover, with different rates for different roads and different times and much stricter control over times and places of use and cover.


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This sounds good except that I wonder if it would put them on the streets more when there are younger kids around, playing on the streets etc
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& there's the concern - what other data is this box capable of logging?

its part of new world order mate

its a good idea, but not all young drivers drive like pillocks you know.

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I'd actually like a re-design of the whole 'learning to drive' system. Its entirely possible to pass your test and be granted the freedom of the road with just a couple of hours experience under your belt - how shocking is that!

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so would i actually, there shouldnt be a test. even the test is too easy, you have 3 minors allowed; just one minor in real life could result in a crash . it should be driving with an instructor for x amount of time while he judges your driving skills over that period of time.
its so easy to pass, you basically have to just suss when to look at the mirrors and signal.
the real learning period i rekon though is when you drive on your own.
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There should still be a test, purely to ensure that all instructors do their job of ensuring learners reach the needed standard.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey
excellent idea, I wonder if a similar scheme could be done for old people so they can only drive on the roads between 2300 and 0600?

Would make the roads safer full stop, and stop Soggy doing anymore boring Cotswolds runs

shouldnt that be between 06.00 and 23.00
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shouldnt that be between 06.00 and 23.00

errr, no, as that is the time I am most likely to be on the road
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