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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 09:17 AM   #1
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Cooper S Insurance

Apologies if this is in the wrong section, and apols as I'd imagine its been covered before (though have had a look!), but.....

Does anyone have any recommendations for cheap insurance for non modified MCS's (esp in London). Getting some quotes at the moment and varying massively, from 700 to 3k , and though this is entertaining, just wondered if there was a way to insurance nirvana!

Any help appreciated, cheers.
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have decided to go with elephant insurance as they are by far the cheaper insurer for me. Still, they do have a massive downside if you have a highly specced MINI as they will not cover the extra if the worst was to happen. I think this is ridiculas but it doesn't really make much difference to me. Also find tesco and directline a good alternative. For me them 3 are the only ones worth considering because they are soo much cheaper than the rest.
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 12:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hey badboyz,

i was on the phone to elephant yesterday and they say they will cover the extras and when i mentioned things like the chilli pack they new wot i was talking about. also said they would cover mods if i declare them but isurance would go up. also went up with the chilli pack but its still the cheapest ive found.

out of interest which other companes did u try as most i have phoned will only insure drivers who are 25+ on an mcs.
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 12:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Fizzle
hey badboyz,

i was on the phone to elephant yesterday and they say they will cover the extras and when i mentioned things like the chilli pack they new wot i was talking about. also said they would cover mods if i declare them but isurance would go up. also went up with the chilli pack but its still the cheapest ive found.

out of interest which other companes did u try as most i have phoned will only insure drivers who are 25+ on an mcs.

Unless Elephant have changed their policy VERY recently the person you spoke to is either wrong or misleading.

They will "cover" you. I.e. they will make a note that you have these modifications and/or options and therefore wont void your insurance for "undeclared" non standard specs. HOWEVER, their policy states they will NOT replaces ANYTHING that is not standard. Aircon, larger alloys, leather seats, ANYTHING that's not on a bare spec S/Cooper/One/Whatver MINI you chose.

Try BMW Insurance (& MINI Insurance, and they ARE different), as well as Liverpool Victoria.

Also, try using the search engine (www.mini2.com/forum/search.php), it's VERY good. You will find many threads like:

ELEPHANT.co.uk insurance warning
MCS Insurance in the UK
Insurance with Liverpool Victoria
Modifications and insurance premiums?
UK Cooper S insurance
Insurance Mini Cooper S

And many, many more.

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That is good, they must have changed there policy because many members here said they would complain to elephant about this. I have only tried 4 insurance companies. They are Tesco, Elephant, Directline and MINI. They, in my opinion, are the only ones that charge a decent rate for someone of my age (20).
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Cheers Paul. I'll get back to practicing using Search. Didnt mean to criticise the search function, more my ability!
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No problem. For a popular subject like insurance, it's often wise to go to advanced search and search "titles only" so you get less "noise".

I'd be VERY careful with Elephant, Admiral etc. I was with them and on the phone they "said" I'd be covered, but I read the policy documents and it said I wasn't. So I called them back and twice had managers confirm I wasn't properly insured. So I cancelled.

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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 01:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Andyman
Apologies if this is in the wrong section, and apols as I'd imagine its been covered before (though have had a look!), but.....

Does anyone have any recommendations for cheap insurance for non modified MCS's (esp in London). Getting some quotes at the moment and varying massively, from 700 to 3k , and though this is entertaining, just wondered if there was a way to insurance nirvana!

Any help appreciated, cheers.

Try Liverpool Victoria, Axa, Mini Cover and Halifax - they were all competitive. It also depends a lot on your motoring history (claims etc)

Good Luck! I know it's a nightmare as I've been getting quotes for the last 2 months! Finally made my decision today!
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 01:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks again, all really good points. Currently with elephant and getting worried about their cover after what everyone has said (and from the new found search ability! :-) )

I may end up going with BMW as they seem to get a good reputation everywhere without being too exp.
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 02:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Liverpool Victoria who im with dont seem to like young drivers (<25)but apart from that they are great
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 02:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm insured with Sterling Insurance who are just a broker but very good for young drivers/convicted and for modified cars. I've got an agreed value policy as well and they where the cheapest by about £300 on my motor.

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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 02:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As I do a lot of miles (approx 25K p.a), I found that I was been charged a extra premium.
Most insurance companies charge this as soon as you declare that you do more than 12K miles p.a.

However I found Footman James who use AXA to be different. They offered unlimited mileage cover
plus insured all my extras (eg sat nav, chilli ect ect).

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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 02:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Oh sorry should have added that into my post as well, I have class 2 buss use and unlimited mileage as I do around 30K a year

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tried liverpool victoria but as i am under 25 they couldnt unsure me on a mcs.

the problem i am having is that i will be getting the car at the end of march by which time i will be 21 but a lot of the companies wont give me a quote til i'm 21 (12 march).

tried mini and the quote was £3894, when i explained i'd be 21 when i got the car it went down to £2644!!

got an afternoon on the phone now to all the companies above so fingers crossed someone can get it below £2k
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Old Jan 6th, 2004, 08:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Well, eventually got a deal for much cheapness, with options covered, through AXA.

Everyone, thanks for all your help. I'll buy you all a pint... :-)
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Old Jan 7th, 2004, 10:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I've got my insurance with Adrian Flux - they seemed very reasonable - for my MCS (no add-ons tho)
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 12:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Esure was the best

I got a large number of Insurance quotes, mostly on-line.

The best quotes where from Esure and Sainsbury's

The worst were Liverpool Victoria and Mini Insurance . Both of these were over £200 more than Esure .

I decided to go with Esure and checked to make sure my Chili pack was covered. The assistant checked with an underwriter and confirmed that this would be covered in the event of theft/damage etc for no extra charge. She has put a note on the policy proposal to confirm this.

Cooper S DS/B, Chili pack, Auto AC, MFSW, CD Boost.
Ordered 6th Dec 2003, Delivered 16 Jan 2004!! Sold August 2004

Now have a BMW 120D SE - forum details:

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Old Jan 10th, 2004, 01:20 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i don't know about you guys but me being in the military in the USA my car is registered in a diff state so what ever tickets i get in what ever state im in never get back to my insurance company. i use geico and i pay $33 a month so its like $396 a year. not bad i guess
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Old Jan 10th, 2004, 02:06 AM   #19 (permalink)
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$396 a year.
Not bad.......you guess?
I'm 23 (about your age) and Im paying £1,546 per year.
Do the math...
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Old Jan 10th, 2004, 10:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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i am 19 on a new mini cooper s with chilli and sat nav and pay £690 fully comp
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