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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Apr 23rd, 2010, 06:47 PM Thread Starter
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Dear mini owners, hobbyists, and all others.
I'm having a problem with my 2002 cooper automatic.
After starting the car in park, while trying to put it into Drive, the car "jumps" so hard into the gear that the car stalls. This is a problem that used to only happen in the winter, but now well into spring, it's back again.
BMW didn't know what it was, but reset the computers and that seemed to help for a while. Even in the winter, after the stall I could start the car again, put it into drive and it went in smoothly and I was able to take off. For that reason, I don't think it has anything to do with engine temperature.
I'm sure this "jumping" into gear, other than just being annoying, probably is damaging the transmission.
In addition, this doesn't happen in reverse. The car always goes smoothly into reverse even in the middle of the winter. After that, putting it in Drive causing the jump and stall, but only once. After that, it's not a problem.
Any advise anyone may have, is greatly appreciated.
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United-Kingdom 2002 Mini cooper jumping into drive

I have exactly the same problem but the engine doesn't stall or stop.

When I put my Mini Cooper auto into Drive, it jumps as if it is engaging a missile to fire. However, once the engine warms up the jump is a bit less.. has been looking at lot of forums and no answer so far.

spoken to a Mini dealer over the phone and they asked me to book it in for a check where it is 130 per hour for checking what is wrong with it.. so, I am waiting on some info before I spend that kind of money on a 8 year old car.

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This problem happened to my Mini Cooper when it was about 6 months old - late 2002. It used to "chirp" the tyres when Drive was selected! BMW applied a software update, reset the computer, and the problem went away. At about 7 years old, the transmission again started to behave badly - variable engine revs, very aggressive selection of Drive. The problem turned out to be a faulty / worn out main battery. Replacement of the battery and a computer reset fixed the problem. The CVT relies on excellent voltage and current from the battery. Things to check:
1. Is your CVT software release current?
2. Battery operating correctly?
3. CVT fluid changes carried out at the correct intervals and transmission filled correctly? (It is hard to fill properly).

Hope this helps provide a low-cost approach to diagnosing the problems.
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Hi, first of all, I am sorry to bump this thread but I searched all over for this and bumped in to this thread just minutes before I was going to write up a problem I am having.

Just wanted to thank you, I will be trying this and hope this solves my problem. Greets from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

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This problem happened to my Mini Cooper when it was about 6 months old - late 2002. It used to "chirp" the tyres when Drive was selected! BMW applied a software update, reset the computer, and the problem went away. At about 7 years old, the transmission again started to behave badly - variable engine revs, very aggressive selection of Drive. The problem turned out to be a faulty / worn out main battery. Replacement of the battery and a computer reset fixed the problem. The CVT relies on excellent voltage and current from the battery. Things to check:
1. Is your CVT software release current?
2. Battery operating correctly?
3. CVT fluid changes carried out at the correct intervals and transmission filled correctly? (It is hard to fill properly).

Hope this helps provide a low-cost approach to diagnosing the problems.
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Got the jumper issue too. Checked the mini over on a diognostic machine (non dealer) and comes up no faults so does anyone know how much a software update costs from BMW? and will it be a permanent cure? BTW Batterys new and so is fluid (had gearbox internals all replaced recently as went kapooot)
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If you get any answers to your jumping problem, I'd really appreciate you posting it. I'll do the same. For the moment my solution is just letting the engine warm up for 5 minutes. After that the motor just jumps slightly into "D" and from then on it's clear sailing.
Will do mate! I'm not sure if there are different scales of jumping and maybey mines just on the lower end as its more of a chirp into gear rather then a jump, but def a fault.

If i put into reverse the clutch release is smooth and creeps into speed. Drive is a instant jerk, then smooth sailing all the way

Its been like this for a while....even prior to the gearbox packing in, but having just spent a wad of cash getting the gearbox fully overhauled....this continued jerk worries me as might lead to another failure...cant help but feel its causing a strain on the gearbox/clutch jerking everytime you go in drive

I haven't drove another Mini Auto so don't have any comparisons to make, but i've driven plenty of other car makes and none have this crappy jerk bar my dads old Merc 230e, but that being 25+years old was more justifiable
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I'm with you on the selling on if not ressolved, i mean the gearbox costs has now set me way off recouping what i paid and the costs of this 'software update' probably isnt cheap either. I'll be making further price enquires on this later today as my local BMW service centre have short buisness hours over the weekend. Its a shame as i actually spent more looking for the Auto CVT in the first place..kind of wish i hadnt bothered!
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Just spoke to my local dealer who didnt really fill me with much confidence. Wanted 162+VAT (194) for the hour they need to update the software, but couldnt tell me which version they have...nor if the update would make any difference. Awaiting callback from a different branch now...but cant see the labour rates being any different, but some1 not talking out there ass might be a good start

Brings me to if anyone actually know what the latest version is?

Old threads i found refer to version 32&33, but thats going back a few years so what are we on now? or does the software stop getting updates when the 2nd generation was released. Can this software update be done by a 3rd party?

Seeing as this matter was raised quite freqently with CVT owners, suprised knowone has worked out a garanteed fix. Was it a recall by BMW as quite a major issue or should i just consider this car junk and cut my losses - No way i'm spending thousands on pending gearbox repairs.

I'm by no way a Mini enthusist, but there must be shed loads on this forum who are - Helping hand perhaps?
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Think i was typing away when you last posted m8, but yep the MX5 is a nice alternative - havent drove the new1, but my old mx5 was solid and never skipped a beat. I was actually looking at getting a RX7 for the ther half before the Mini, but that rotary engine has a few issues too so stayed clear (kind of wish i took my chances though) - TBH new cars dont do it for me really and i'm sorta stuck in the 80s with my Mk1 Golf GTI
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Handed this in earlier today to a local diognostic specialist and just got a call to say its been sorted....will pick it up in a few hours and let you know the outcome!

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Forgot to update this, but problems sorted. Goes smooooooooth into drive now! On diagnostics, car itself didnt come up with any faults...but had a software update performed. To be fair...i'm not sure what version got installed, other than the 'latest' but either way...job done. Cost 100 all in...which i think was quite fair considering the main stealer pricing to even have a look at the problem is allot dearer.

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Hi. I have stumbled across this old thread!
Have recently bought a 2007 R52 Mini CVT (42000 Miles) with the same sort of problem. Only 'jumps' when cold when put into D. No problem going into R. If the car is left a couple of minutes to warm up, it does not jump.

Service sheets show a new battery, ECU software update and gearbox values reset 11-2014.

I can't see any evidence of an oil change at any time during the life of the car. So I have started with an oil change at a gearbox specialists at 110. They have also changed the oil filter. What oil filter?!? I haven't found any detail of a filter anywhere. Are they correct?

The car still has the same issue. The specialist suggested checking for error codes, update of ECU and also something about 'adaption'?

I found this comment, probably on this forum:
After starting, wait about ten seconds for the engine to warm and the fuel primer to set. Then, after backing up (if you do) wait a couple seconds after shifting into Drive before hitting the gas. After about thirty seconds or so of driving, the tendency to jerk should disappear. Everyone has their own "magic ritual" that they do for this, so give it a shot!

So should I be concerned for the welfare of the gearbox and pursue a cure (how?) or just live with it?

Thanks
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Hi. I have stumbled across this old thread!
Have recently bought a 2007 R52 Mini CVT (42000 Miles) with the same sort of problem. Only 'jumps' when cold when put into D. No problem going into R. If the car is left a couple of minutes to warm up, it does not jump.

Service sheets show a new battery, ECU software update and gearbox values reset 11-2014.

I can't see any evidence of an oil change at any time during the life of the car. So I have started with an oil change at a gearbox specialists at 110. They have also changed the oil filter. What oil filter?!? I haven't found any detail of a filter anywhere. Are they correct?

The car still has the same issue. The specialist suggested checking for error codes, update of ECU and also something about 'adaption'?

I found this comment, probably on this forum:
After starting, wait about ten seconds for the engine to warm and the fuel primer to set. Then, after backing up (if you do) wait a couple seconds after shifting into Drive before hitting the gas. After about thirty seconds or so of driving, the tendency to jerk should disappear. Everyone has their own "magic ritual" that they do for this, so give it a shot!

So should I be concerned for the welfare of the gearbox and pursue a cure (how?) or just live with it?

Thanks
I don't think the 2007 models had CVTs. I believe that's the year MINI switched to a more traditional automatic transmission.

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I don't think the 2007 models had CVTs. I believe that's the year MINI switched to a more traditional automatic transmission.
R52 is a gen 1 convertible if it's a one or Cooper it will have the cvt.

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Based on what I experienced and what I've read about from others it sounds like a software issue.

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