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Old Sep 8th, 2003, 07:11 PM
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Smile Key not turning in ignition

Just had a bit of a "moment" - got in my Cooper after work, put the key in the ignition, and tried to turn it, but it was locked, and wouldn't turn in the slightest. Took key out, turned it round, same.

In the end I rang MINI emergency services, who immediately told me what to do:-

It was to do with the steering lock being jammed. He told me to see which side it was locked at, so I turned the wheel to the right and it wouldn't move at all, but it moved a bit to the left. So it was locked to the right. He told me to pull the wheel so it locked on the opposite side, ie. the left, then turn the key.

Hay presto.

Just in case anyone else has any trouble and has visions of being stranded at work for 2 hours waiting for someone to come out - as I momentarily did.

I even had a 10 second doubt of what did I do buying a MINI??? Numerous rattles, creaks on both window seals, passenger window usually doesn't go up/down and so bangs on side - if my MINI had made me lose my evening for such a simple thing, what I have been able to forgive it.......

.....Of course I would!! All these little quirks add up to make it the characterful car it is Sure, I'd like it to be perfect, but sometimes perfect is boring. Oh, the power steering whine, the stumble...

Pleasure doesn't come without pain!

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Old Sep 8th, 2003, 07:28 PM
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Thats one thing my Motoring Advisor warned me of when I firt picked up my car Glad the guy on the phone knew to ask you about that instead of waiting 2 hours for road side assistance to make u feel like a fool in person
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Old Sep 8th, 2003, 07:30 PM
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Yep me too! Well, the girl who first answered said "hold on i'll get someone to get out to you and assist you".

So I was like "grr here we go". Luckily he was clued up though!
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Sounds like something they have been called out for before!
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Old Sep 8th, 2003, 07:34 PM
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Indeed!

I said "aaah, so what was up with it then?".

He goes "the steering lock can sometimes get stuck" in a really bored voice
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he shoulda been happy, he didnt have to come out/dispatch someone.
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Old Sep 8th, 2003, 08:54 PM
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When I bought my 325i back in 1994, I couldn't get the keys to turn on the dealer's lot. The delivery was at the end of the day, and everyone had already left when I got into my brand new car and try to drive away. Luckily, I went with a friend who has driven BMWs all his life, and he showed me how to "properly start up a BMW".........

It never did get easier, and I call that my "anti-theft device". None of my friends could start up my car without me telling them the trick.
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Old Sep 8th, 2003, 08:55 PM
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Hehe, it's only happened this once. Should I expect it to happen again? :P
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I'm always surprised when I run across someone who has not experienced this before, since steering locks have been fitted to pretty much all cars since 1968 (at least here in the U.S.). This has certainly happened to me multiple times with every car I've ever owned, not to mention other peoples' cars.

It's not a BMW thing, it's not a MINI thing, it's an every car thing.

So yes I would expect it to happen again

When you turn the key off and remove it, the steering lock is set but it is not actually engaged yet. If you try to turn the steering wheel, or even nudge it as you are getting out of the car, you can turn the wheel just enough for the lock to catch (usually with an audible click).

of course when you come back to the car you can't turn the key because of the pressure being exerted on the lock mechanism by the steering. So you simply wiggle the steering wheel a little to take that pressure off and then you can turn the key like normal again.

The point of the steering lock of course is as an anti-theft device. Steering locks were introduced well before things like immobilizers existed, the idea being that if a thief got into your car and hotwired it to try to steal it, he wouldn't be able to steer, which would hopefully prevent him from driving off with your car.

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It's true! Been on every car I've ever owned. Slight turn of the wheel away from the steering lock catch and Tada!!
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Owned two cars before and they've never done it, both had steering locks!
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Quote: Originally Posted by sjbartnik
I'm always surprised when I run across someone who has not experienced this before, since steering locks have been fitted to pretty much all cars since 1968 (at least here in the U.S.). This has certainly happened to me multiple times with every car I've ever owned, not to mention other peoples' cars..

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This is my third car, first time it's ever happened! Guess I'm just careful getting in/out of the car and don't knock the steering wheel! :P
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I experience this in my S, about every fifth start. I do think it happened in my last car, but maybe five times in three years, not once every three days.
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It could be that all other cars have the steering lock, but only BMW's steering lock makes it difficult to turn over the key sometimes.

How else could you explain the mechanic at the local garage where I just got an alignment done had a hard time turning the key over!? The mechanic certainly drives multiple cars everyday.

I am almost certain our 1990 Canadian spec Honda Accord doesn't have the steering lock though, but we sold that car last year so I am unable to confirm it.
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