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View Poll Results: IMPORTANT. Have you had a power steering/pump failure? YES or NO only please.
NO. I have *NOT* had a steering failure in my MINIs, 698 34.90%
YES. I have had *ONE* steering failure in my MINIs, 1,114 55.70%
YES. I have had *TWO* steering failures in my MINIs, 112 5.60%
YES. I have had *THREE* steering failures in my MINIs, 24 1.20%
YES. I have had *MORE THAN THREE* steering failures in my MINIs. 52 2.60%
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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 01:24 PM
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...but keep those votes coming!

(How worried am I that others are getting multiple failures too?! Very)

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I decided to take my copper s to the dealers today as I thought the power steering seemed to be getting louder. Basically most of the oil had disappeared, closer inspection showed it had a leak somewhere. It's booked in for a couple of days time, not sure they are replacing the pump but I will certainly enquire. It does seem to be an inherent problem, so I would suggest everyone checks their level from time to time, as it is not advised in the handbook. btw my S is a year old and done about 6000 miles.
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Old Feb 9th, 2004, 11:28 PM
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Thumbs down 22% of MINI's have steering failures.

Quote: Originally Posted by aharte
I decided to take my copper s to the dealers today as I thought the power steering seemed to be getting louder. Basically most of the oil had disappeared, closer inspection showed it had a leak somewhere. It's booked in for a couple of days time, not sure they are replacing the pump but I will certainly enquire. It does seem to be an inherent problem, so I would suggest everyone checks their level from time to time, as it is not advised in the handbook. btw my S is a year old and done about 6000 miles.

Hmmm... I think that it's becoming very clear from this threads results so far that just short of 1 in 4 (22%) MINI's are suffering from catastrophic steering failures.

That is way too high in my opinion, especially when you think that some of the drivers (like me) are suffering multiple failures.

I am in need of more and more votes but I'll be progressing this soon.

Thanks for your valuable advice.

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I just recently took my 2004 (sept. 2003 build, 6000 mi.) in because my power steering was going in and out. I only noticed it at slow speeds and everytime i started the car. Dealer checked for leaks and found nothing. In the end, they just re-filled my PS fluid and called it a day. I'm a little worried as to how i'm losing fluid if they can't find any leaks.

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Old Feb 10th, 2004, 09:23 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by seneville
I just recently took my 2004 (sept. 2003 build, 6000 mi.) in because my power steering was going in and out. I only noticed it at slow speeds and everytime i started the car. Dealer checked for leaks and found nothing. In the end, they just re-filled my PS fluid and called it a day. I'm a little worried as to how i'm losing fluid if they can't find any leaks.

Hi,

If I were you I'd print this thread out and show it too your dealer. On the second occasion that my first MINI failed, the recovery man that drove it said that when it got driven into the dealerships workshop, its steering came back for a few seconds, faded, and died.

It sounds to me like you've got exactly the same problem as I had. Ask your dealer to look at this thread, and if you need a chassis number (or two!) so they can review the BMW/MINI internal maintenance systems, tell me.

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wayne, thanks for the info. I've got this thread bookmarked and will now take a close look at my fluid levels (now that i know where to look) and continue to check it as often as required and see what happens.

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I posted on Monday about the disappearing fluid. I went it today and it had to have the whole steering rack replaced. So I would be a little bit dubious about dealers who just top it up and show anyone the door. There is clearly an issue with Mini's and their steering, I did ask them if this was a common fault but they were very guarded in their reply.
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Thumbs up Agreed.

Quote: Originally Posted by aharte
I posted on Monday about the disappearing fluid. I went it today and it had to have the whole steering rack replaced. So I would be a little bit dubious about dealers who just top it up and show anyone the door. There is clearly an issue with Mini's and their steering, I did ask them if this was a common fault but they were very guarded in their reply.

I have to say that I in total agreement with you. I too suffered that style of response from the service manager, and too, the Dealer Principle. He was particularly guarded saying when confronted about why I'd suffered 3 failures, said "I don't want to talk about specifics [like my steering failing 3 times]".

After the 21st March 2004, I'll be progressing this matter a lot further with BMW and MINI UK. No doubt they'll be very concerned why I am being told by my dealer that "I shouldn't expect BMW quality with the MINI, it's not a BMW". And that's a 100% U-turn from what they we're telling me before I bought the car from them.

Shameful.

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I am on my second MINI. First one a works cooper , second one a works cooper s no steering problems with either of them yet
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I am on my second MINI. First one a works cooper , second one a works cooper s no steering problems with either of them yet

Good news that your MINI's have both been part of the 77% of MINI's that haven't suffered from a steering failure.

Your obviously lucky. I wish I were you!

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Wayne - have you brought your next MINI yet from another dealer - surely your not serious about a Skoda?
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski
Wayne - have you brought your next MINI yet from another dealer - surely your not serious about a Skoda?

Hiya matey,

I am never going to buy another MINI. They have proved nothing but a nightmare for me, and I have never felt as loving about them since day 1. They have just been too faulty for me. Certainly, not the same experience as I had previously with BMW.

On the subject of Skoda. Yes I am serious. They aren't over-hyped. They aren't over-priced. And they certainly offer the kind of honest to goodness personal treatment that the now aloof BMW/MINI brands used to offer.

I've grown-up a lot over the past 18-months of ownership of MINI's, and I now no longer care about marketing gloss, sales technique or street-cred. Just keeping my job, my life, my money and my sanity will do now thank you.

You should all take a look yourselves those who have suffered like myself and Martin L. You'll all be very surprised. Very surprised indeed.

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Good news that your MINI's have both been part of the 77% of MINI's that haven't suffered from a steering failure.

How was 77% arrived at?
If this were truly the case there would be a massive recall. More lawyers in the US would be buying new houses and boats.
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Lightbulb How to calculate the percentage Good, and Bad.

Quote: Originally Posted by agiduda
How was 77% arrived at?
If this were truly the case there would be a massive recall. More lawyers in the US would be buying new houses and boats.

At the top of this thread, is a poll. At the foot of the poll is a heading that tells you how many people voted on the poll so far. At this very moment it reads:
"Total Votes: 80. You have already voted on this poll"

Now then, of that 80 votes, 63 (at this moment) have voted for the first heading, that being:
"NO. I have *NOT* had a steering failure in my MINIs"

Therefore, the percentage of drivers that have NOT suffered a problem is calculated:
= 63 / 80
= 0.79
= 0.79 x 100 (to get a percentage)
= 79% of MINI owners have not suffered a problem.

By simple maths therefore, that must mean:
= 100% - 79%
= 21% of MINI owners have suffered a problem.

Scary huh?

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