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| View Poll Results: IMPORTANT. Have you had a power steering/pump failure? YES or NO only please. | |||
| NO. I have *NOT* had a steering failure in my MINIs, | | 652 | 35.78% |
| YES. I have had *ONE* steering failure in my MINIs, | | 1,008 | 55.32% |
| YES. I have had *TWO* steering failures in my MINIs, | | 95 | 5.21% |
| YES. I have had *THREE* steering failures in my MINIs, | | 21 | 1.15% |
| YES. I have had *MORE THAN THREE* steering failures in my MINIs. | | 46 | 2.52% |
| Voters: 1822. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| That's excellent news - congratulations! ![]() All the best, Andrew. NeuroBeaker - Proud owner of Zeus (a 'modestly modified' 2004 MINI ONE). Helpful Links: [1st Gen. Power Steering Pump (PSP) Failure Guide] [1st Gen. PSP Repair] [Thread Titles] [Adverts Fix] |
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| Hi all,just took my mini cooper s convertible 2005 to cooper norwich for a hook up to their fault computer,power steering pump has failed........ Told them that i knew bmw were aware of this problem and that watchdog had done a piece so was hoping for some goodwill......A pipe was leaking too from the pump..After about an hour got a call from cooper norwich who told me the total price for pump and pipe was going to be 976 all in but they`d rang bmw uk who had told them that the total price for all the work would be 284 all in after goodwill gesture,A right result i felt..... They did all the work today and i picked it up this evening with the total bill coming to 230 inclusive....even better..... ![]() I`ve seen u can get the pump refurbed from ebay 175 pounds but that means taking it off and sending it away which if you`re not diy proficient is a no no.....I`ve also seen the pump for about 300 but then a surcharge of 80 till u send the old pump back..... To start with i was gonna pay 400-500 rather than get ****ed off fighting my corner at a main dealer but obviously now i got it done in a day for a good price i`d say ring you`re dealer and ask cos you just never know,it can`t hurt to try and was amazed at my outcome..... p.s my mileage was 35000..... Good luck |
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PSP Failure Hi All Just had my PSP fail on sunday (2002 mini one petrol). As like many googled the fault, seen the watchdog program, read all the forum on the site, called the line, got fobbed off to a dealer (EASTERN MINI IN EDINBURGH), and car currentley still there. Spoke to the guy there about this problem and said it was not common. He called to tell me that indeed the pump had failed (£80) for something i knew! and funnily enough a leaky pipe , even tho i never had to top up bottle so the leak is beyond me? Asked about the Goodwill guesture and still waiting for a response from them. Will keep everyone posted on this development as it happens. |
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| Consolidated Power Steering Pump Advice (Updated: 19th March 2009)Welcome MINI enthusiasts! Presumably you're reading this post because your power steering isn't behaving in the way that a healthy car's should. Well, you've come to the right place, because we're going to see what we can do to help get you motoring once more and back to enjoying your MINI Adventure! ![]() My power steering is intermittent or has failed completely. How do I know if it's the pump or not? Diagnostic checks are a bit useless... it's been discussed here that it doesn't really matter what's wrong with the pump, as it's basically: Power steering has failed (permanently or intermittently)... response: examine the pump.It'd be far better if it just went: Power steering has failed (permanently or intermittently)... response: replace the pump. Roughly how much should i be paying for diagnostic check and labour? Essentially, while they're replacing the pump, they should have a look to see if the wiring loom needs doing at the same time. There shouldn't really be a diagnostic charge for this one as it's such a common problem (see previous section)... but this is may come down to how good natured your dealership is, and how good a customer you've been in the past. If it's only the pump (and not the loom as well; that's much more expensive) that's gone, then hopefully you'll get by with a contribution of £40-110 (about £70ish seemed 'normal'), but remember, anything in that range is an excellent result (if you're just a bit above, it's still a good result). As time goes on, we'll see BMW asking for larger contributions as the cars that exhibit this problem will be ageing. Ultimately, and quite reasonably, the manufacturer will eventually want to move on from this issue and won't be offering assistance indefinitely. See subsequent sections in this guide for tips on approaching your dealer. Are BMW aware of this problem? Yes. BMW and their dealerships are very well aware of this problem, it is a very common one, and anything your dealer or the manufacturer claim to the contrary is simply not true. Simply look at the poll associated with this thread - perhaps even print that out to show your dealer. However, whether the VOSA can do anything about this issue is another thing entirely, as explained by mab01uk and MiniManiaUK: Indeed, even the UK Consumer programme Watchdog has tackled the Power Steering Pump Problem earlier this year. See this thread for details:
How to approach the dealership with the aim to getting financial assistance in fixing your power steering failure: If when the steering is very heavy, you notice an absence of the MINI's characteristic whine from the engine compartment, then it's quite probably that your Power Steering Pump has failed. This is a common problem on MINIs and MINI2.com has an exhaustive list of owners who have had this problem - and how they dealt with it - right here in this very thread! MINI UK won't help me, what can I do? If there is absolutely no way you can get a claim processed through MINI UK then there are cheaper options for repair than using the main dealerships for parts and fitting. I recommend the MINI2.com sponsor MiniManiaUK (run by Adam) as not only are their prices excellent, but the after-sales service is superb. Is there anything I can do myself to stop the pump from failing again? I'm glad you asked - yes there is! ![]() For a detailed description on how you can maintain your power steering pump to ensure longevity in your new pump, here are some fabulous instructions, again from Adam at MiniManiaUK (gathered into one post by me, but follow the links there to the originals, which include pictures): Concluding advice: The single most important thing I can advise is dropping off a thoughtful letter with your car. It should politely but firmly plead your case and provide ample opportunity for your dealer to shine - remember the tone is that they're there to 'save' you and restore the joy in your MINI ownership experience, not take a 'flaming' from you. ![]() As aforementioned, for a more technical explanation as to what's going on with the precise components in question, you may want to have a thread through the thread and take special note of contributions from mab01uk and MINIMANIAUK. ![]() Good luck and keep us updated to your progress in the Power Steering Pump Thread (right here: 24 hours a day, 365 days a year)! ![]() All the best, Andrew. PS: Could everyone please let me know if you find any problems with this post? e.g. Broken links, nonsensical quotes, poor spelling/grammar, or bad information... it will all be corrected as quickly as possible. Thanks! NeuroBeaker - Proud owner of Zeus (a 'modestly modified' 2004 MINI ONE). Helpful Links: [1st Gen. Power Steering Pump (PSP) Failure Guide] [1st Gen. PSP Repair] [Thread Titles] [Adverts Fix] |
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| Update: Dealer say claim was rejected (Fuming!!!!) So now may just sell the car. Still have to pay around £80 for dianostics even tho i told them what was wrong with car. Never told me on what grounds the car was rejected, probably milage 79,000 on a 02 reg but regards less its still a desgin flaw!! |
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| Sorry to hear that. Yes, I'd say the age and mileage were the deciding factor there. ![]() There are other routes you can go (see my gargantuan post above)... check out MINIMANIAUK for replacement pumps. ![]() All the best, Andrew. NeuroBeaker - Proud owner of Zeus (a 'modestly modified' 2004 MINI ONE). Helpful Links: [1st Gen. Power Steering Pump (PSP) Failure Guide] [1st Gen. PSP Repair] [Thread Titles] [Adverts Fix] |
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| Cheers Andrew but this expreience has left a bitter taste in my mouth regarding BWM and think i will cut my losses with the car and tell everyone i know to stay clear of buying a mini. |
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| You could do that... But one of the good points you'd be missing out on the MINI is that there are so many enthusiasts who know a fair amount about the cars and can guide you to cheaper-than-dealership solutions. If your power steering had merely failed on Ford Fiesta (for example), might you have chalked it up as simply unlucky and paid for the fix? ![]() I realise you're upset now, but have a think about it. With no warranty left on the car, you're essentially independent of BMW now. Take your car to independent garages and MINI specialists (there are a few this site recommends) - often it's cheaper than BMW dealers and the service is usually better. ![]() I hope you stick around, but if not then have a good one all the same. ![]() Sincerely, Andrew. NeuroBeaker - Proud owner of Zeus (a 'modestly modified' 2004 MINI ONE). Helpful Links: [1st Gen. Power Steering Pump (PSP) Failure Guide] [1st Gen. PSP Repair] [Thread Titles] [Adverts Fix] |
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| mini power steering sucks! My 53 reg mini cooper s power steering failed yesterday! Was working fine then i turned into my street at the end of my journey and it just stopped working with no warning! Luckily i managed to stop it safely, but it was a nice day, and it's a busy street and there were a lot of kids about so could have been worse. I'd been hurtling down the dual carrigeway into hull 5 minutes before so i'm glad it didn't happen then! The RAC dude told me it's the power steering pump b4 he even got to my car but did checks on other possible causes such as the alternator which were all fine. He also broke the news to me that the repair bill could top around £900! I'd drive it to the garage myself but unfortunately it's not just a straight line from where it's parked, and i'm not a bodybuilder so steering it is virtually impossible for me! I've now got a recovery vehicle booked for 2moro to take it to the garage i used to take my old peugeot to, but now, after viewing the watchdog programme about power steering failure, and seeing just how many minis have had this failure, i'm thinking of ringing mini customer services first thing tomorrow to see if they'll help me to sort the problem, and il get it taken to the dealership. It seems as though mini are beginning to accept that it is a common fault, and are helping customers with the cost of this problem out of their 'goodwill' so am i doing the right thing in contacting them first? |
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| Hello Your Highness - welcome to MINI2! ![]() Sorry to hear about your power steering pump failure. Yes it's a common problem and I think you should try the BMW dealership to see if you can get some benevolent assistance with the repair - yours wouldn't be the oldest car we've seen MINI UK offer help with. I think it might greatly depend on mileage here, as certainly cars with <50,000 miles on the clock have received more generous manufacturer contributions than cars with 50,000+ miles.For approaching your dealership in a constructive and helpful way, please read my consolidated power steering pump advice post, seen here (alternatively, just scroll up): Let us know how you get on, and good luck! ![]() All the best, 'Captain' Andrew 'of the MINInium Falcon'. NeuroBeaker - Proud owner of Zeus (a 'modestly modified' 2004 MINI ONE). Helpful Links: [1st Gen. Power Steering Pump (PSP) Failure Guide] [1st Gen. PSP Repair] [Thread Titles] [Adverts Fix] |
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| The Diesel Mini One has a belt driven power steering pump (no electric motor whine), I doubt it could be fitted to petrol models due to the different space requirements and general layout of the petrol engine, etc. Diagram of the diesel PS pump:- RealOEM.com BMW R50 One 1.4d Power steering pump |
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| Has anyone been able to track down part numbers/sizes and online suppliers for the PS pump parts recommended for replacement during overhaul? In particular, it would be nice to replace the O-ring on the high pressure outlet side while the pump is disassembled, but I have no idea where to access this part. Specs on the brushes would be appreciated too. |
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