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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 21st, 2002, 05:30 AM Thread Starter
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Door Lock Pin Replacement?

Has anyone been able to replace the door lock pins? I bought a pair (from Monster Mini ) and I can't get the stock pins off to replace them!
I asked the parts department of my local dealer and we looked up the stock part - it appears to be a one piece unit for the pin and rod going into the door.
Maybe it is glued on?
I don't want to break mine off, I have twisted them pretty hard without budging them.
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They are glued on.

Best bet is to ask Monster Mini how you should fit them!

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They are glued on.

Best bet is to ask Monster Mini how you should fit them!
Not sure about that monsta - Are we talking the actual lock assembly - I've had mine completely stripped - You can replace just the barrel - Not sure if this is what you mean though! - All the lock parts come apart they are held togehter by strange clips which twist and clip out -

If you are talking about the pins that exit inside at the top of the door(ie the ones that go up and down when you lock unlock - these also come off but as an asembly with a rod that attaches to mechanism - you may be able to get to the rod etc. without removing the windows but I had the windows out anyway

Any more info let me know I'll try and help

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We're talking about the actual black rods that stick up through the door card. I spoke to MiniGuy about this a while back and he said they're glued on.

Haven't actually tried getting them off yet

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THe tops are glued to the rod BUT the rod will come out with the top as a whole so you might then be able to glue a new one on with some success - or alternatively thread the rod and screw new ones on - If they need replacing because they are broken you might as well replace the whole thing - If your just getting chrome ones it'll need some extra thought


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Door case removal is necessary anyway due to the shape of the door pins. They are a Z shape and cannot be pulled out or unscrewed without this.

I'd be inclined to remove the pins/rods and just burn the old pins off of the rods.

When removing the rods from the door be VERY VERY careful. Look before you leap and feel for the point where the rod goes into the door mechanism, as the green clip that the rod leads into is EXTREMELY fragile and will break if you lever the rod too far.
As I say, familiarise yourself with how the rod leads into the door mech before you remove it, or you may suddenly find youself in a Krypton Factor type situation when trying to replace it!!

Also, for door case removal in general:-
Always hold the door case to the door at the point where the pin is (bridge your hand over the top) and pull the door case off from front to back, starting with a big tug on the portion of door case that sticks above the door at the front.
This way as the door case flies off (they usually do) you are stopping damage by preventing it from pulling on the pin as it does so.
Always take great care when lifting the door case over the door locking pin and dont knock it or lever it too far.
Bust that green clip and it will be tears!!

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As I say, familiarise yourself with how the rod leads into the door mech before you remove it, or you may suddenly find youself in a Krypton Factor type situation when trying to replace it!!
If I recall it takes about 3 hours if you don't look before you leap! - - We learn by our mistakes
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Door Lock Pins

Of course, when I bought them, I was told (on the phone) that they "simply screwed on to replace the stock pieces"...

Since I do not plan to tear apart the doors for this "simple" and subtle mod, hopefully Monster Mini will take them back.
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Glad somebody has saved me a load of work as I was going to change pins.

Since reading this thread I've taken off the little rings that go round the pins: painted them silver instead. Looks quite good . Quite subtle
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Door Lock Pins

Well, I got the following reply from Monster Mini, offering an installation solution or a return policy:

The Door pins are universal. They fit on most cars. On the Mini as well as many other cars the door pins are glued on or thread on to the door lock stalk. When getting your factory door locks off we always grip them with a vise grip and pull them up and off the stalk. When doing this, you will see that the stalk is threaded for the new door pin. We have sold many sets of these door pins to Mini owners who have done this process and the new pins went on without a problem. We can take the door pins back for in store
credit or credit you back with a 20% restocking fee. This is store policy.
The parts will work if you want to try. Give us a call back and ask for Adrian Saldivar if you have any questions about your door pins.

-- I'm still not feeling very confident in tearing off the stock pieces, but maybe if I ever get one from a junkyard or something, i will try it!
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I was just removing my door cards to replace the speakers and broke my green clip!

Can it be replaced? Is it easy to do and does it cost much?

Anyone made the same mistake as me?

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uh-oh!
I don't know...
Lots of folks have pulled off the door panels though, surely someone has an answer.
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I think I've just done that! I was removing the door panel to get rid of a rattle. The door card slipped and bent the metal stalk/pin. The central locking isn't working very well now. I'm sure I've damaged something

Any update on your situation? I'm not sure where the green clip is though


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I was just removing my door cards to replace the speakers and broke my green clip!

Can it be replaced? Is it easy to do and does it cost much?

Anyone made the same mistake as me?

Thanks

James

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The green clip is a what connects the long metal pin to the door lock mechanism. If you follow the door pin down you should find it quick enough. It is quite hard to see as it is hidden behind the door skin.

I managed to pick up a replacement from my local BMW dealer for the mamouth cost of 20p and fitted it in about 5 minutes and the central locking all worked perfectly again!

Let me know if you need any more help

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Thanks for the swift reply. Trouble is the metal stalk is bent and when the door is locked it doesn't go all the way down, half an inch of it is visible even when locked. I've taken the panel off again and the central locking is very dodgy. The only way to get it to lock is to waggle the metal stalk, this seems to reconnect something and I can then lock it. I was going to book my car in anyway so perhaps I'll let them take a look at it.

Is this green clip the key then? It was getting a bit dark but I couldn't see anything that looked green. Maybe the stalk isn't bent but the clip is broken, making it look bent? If that makes sense!


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The green clip is a what connects the long metal pin to the door lock mechanism. If you follow the door pin down you should find it quick enough. It is quite hard to see as it is hidden behind the door skin.

I managed to pick up a replacement from my local BMW dealer for the mamouth cost of 20p and fitted it in about 5 minutes and the central locking all worked perfectly again!

Let me know if you need any more help

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