Mini2.com Forum Header Mini2.com Forum Header
» Premium
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Sponsors
» Sponsors
Go Back   MINI2 - MINI Forum > MINI Technical Forums > MINI Interior & ICE > First Generation Interior & Ice

First Generation Interior & Ice
Find Sponsor products associated with this forum
First generation MINI interior 2001 - 2006

Please Visit our Site Sponsors
Mini2.com is the premier MINI Cooper forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Jan 5th, 2005, 01:36 AM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Minnetonka, MN
Posts: 80
Local Time: 03:47 AM
United States
Harmon Kardon speakers ?

I have a 2004 cooper with the HK system. I would like to replace the head unit with one that does not have a built in amp. I know the factory amp is propritary but my question is are the speakers also ?
I would like to install the head unit with an aftermarket amp and keep the HK speakers..

If anyone knows the answer it would be great I asked one install place and they think the speakers are standard but I don't think they really know.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

  #2 (permalink)  
Old Jan 5th, 2005, 02:01 AM
MINI2 Premium Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gloucester, MA, USA
Posts: 7,940
Local Time: 04:47 AM
United States Male View GBMINI's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S JCW GP Profile
The front speakers in the doors do not have a crossover - separate feeds from the HK amp. Replace the amp and you need to add crossovers.
The rear speakers are "dual voice coil" so they theoretically need two channels per speaker; you could wire the coils in series and drive them that way. Note that the coils are 2 ohm so parallel wiring would bring the impedance down to low for most amps; even 2 ohms is not liked by some less expensive amps.

There is lots of info on the web about the HK system - here is an entry on my web site for example.

Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI or a non-MINI!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Feb 3rd, 2005, 09:50 PM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 68
Local Time: 09:47 AM
Can you suggest any other links please ?

Does the HK amp take the signal from speaker output on the factory headunit ?

Like the OP I have a headunit with no internal amplification.
It has 3 way set of pre-outs, hi - mid - bass which are digitally customisable.

Can the HK amp accept line level inputs ?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Feb 3rd, 2005, 09:55 PM
MINI2 Premium Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gloucester, MA, USA
Posts: 7,940
Local Time: 04:47 AM
United States Male View GBMINI's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S JCW GP Profile
The HK amp has speaker level signals from the head unit. It does not have line level inputs.

It is possible to run an aftermarket head unit through the HK amp - provided the HU has speaker outputs. A special circuit is needed to persuade the HK amp to still work.

Otherwise, you will have to bypass or remove the HK amp - and either get aftermarket amps that work with the factory speakers, or replace the speakers as well!

Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI or a non-MINI!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:05 PM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 68
Local Time: 09:47 AM
Thanks for the info.
As the factory head units are so dull, and don't support cd-text / iPod text,
think I'll have to do the entire install and not go for the HK upgrade.

Has anyone posted info on the standard speaker sizes on the forums.
(I don't seem to have much luck searching for posts)

Am I correct with regards to the being two speakers each side up front (in the door)
and two in the rear (which the HK upgrade replaces with subwoofers?)

I have a six channel Rockford amp which I'll run 3 way stereo.
Anyone know any manufactures who do components specifically for the Mini ?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:21 PM
MINI2 Premium Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gloucester, MA, USA
Posts: 7,940
Local Time: 04:47 AM
United States Male View GBMINI's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S JCW GP Profile
Did not realize you don't have a MINI yet - definitely if you are considering aftermarket stereo, DON'T start with the HK! The HK is for people who are satisfied with what it offers.
I ordered it unseen, and was not satisfied - that eventually forced my development of the HKenabler circuit, but it is a compromise solution.

Of course, a good aftermarket system will cost you more than the HK package.

The front doors *can* take a 6.5" speaker with appropriate adaptors; the rears are 6x9 unless you are planning a convertible (which I think has the 6.5" again).
Here is a fabulous strip down / upgrade sequence put together by Paul - it will give you some idea of the work involved!

Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI or a non-MINI!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:39 PM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 68
Local Time: 09:47 AM
Thanks again for the informative reply.

Inifity used to do a three way Kappa kit that included 2 6x9 woofers.
I have an old Kappa 6.5" and tweeter components kit,
only problem with that I guess is the tweeter wouldn't fit into the door.

Not sure where I'd be able to hide the amp as it's a little big for a Mini.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Feb 4th, 2005, 12:47 AM
MINI2 Premium Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gloucester, MA, USA
Posts: 7,940
Local Time: 04:47 AM
United States Male View GBMINI's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S JCW GP Profile
Quote: Originally Posted by LeiChat
I have an old Kappa 6.5" and tweeter components kit,
only problem with that I guess is the tweeter wouldn't fit into the door.

There is a position for a stock tweeter - small and high (next to the door opening handle) but maybe workable.
Pics in my gallery of Tweeters failed attempt to upgrade my stereo system includes a big amp in the trunk:

Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI or a non-MINI!
Reply With Quote

Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rear speakers for Harmon Kardon system RonB352 First Generation Interior & Ice 5 Jul 19th, 2007 03:53 PM
Harmon Kardon Speakers mick225 First Generation Interior & Ice 2 Nov 24th, 2006 04:55 PM
harmon kardon??? droptopmini First Generation Interior & Ice 6 Oct 30th, 2004 04:14 PM
Anyone got Harmon Kardon speakers? alfi First Generation Interior & Ice 20 Oct 26th, 2004 01:43 AM
Harmon Kardon zyo First Generation Interior & Ice 4 Jun 29th, 2004 05:24 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0