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Old May 26th, 2002, 12:32 PM
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Question Need help with a foglight question

I was looking at the possible purchase of a private party Cooper that didn't come with the front foglights. I thought that I could easily add the OEM lights purchased from the dealer and add a switch to the toggle switchpak.
But I need to know how the switch for the fogs actually works in order to wire it up. I looked at the wiring diagram for the switchpak at the dealer on a monitor, but couldn't get a copy of it.

To me it appeared that the fog switch is a double-acting switch---ie, flip it up and the lights go on and flip it up a second time and the lights go off. Can someone verify if that is the case on their car for me? I already know that it works the standard way--up for on and down for off. You should also be able to flip down to turn the lights on.
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Old May 26th, 2002, 01:10 PM
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The fog light switch is normally spring held in the central position. Pulling it up, or pushing it down will switch the lights on and also illuminate a small light in the end of the switch. Pulling up, or pushing down again, will turn the lights off. It does not matter which way you do the switch, up or down, it will reverse the lights back to their former setting.

It sounds like your assumptions are correct.

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Old May 26th, 2002, 01:35 PM
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Thanks for your quick response Apial! Since the ASC/DSC, and both foglight switches are all wired identical, it gives me the idea that 3 more functions could be added to the toggle switchpak. Hmmm, Let's see--since the US MINIs don't come with rear foglights, then that function could be added to the spare switch spot. And a garage door opener could be added to the front fog switch. UP for front fogs ON, and DOWN for door opener ON. Then driving lights and some other function could be added to DOWN position on the two remaining switches--hmmmm. Off to layout a new switchpak circuit board then.....
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Old May 26th, 2002, 05:46 PM
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Perhaps not so simple...

Would recommend that you read this thread on toggle switches and fogs,
this post in particular.
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Old May 26th, 2002, 07:22 PM
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Thanks for the link and I did read it, Addicted_to_S.

Simple? Everything is simple, when you break it down to its individual parts. I like to take things apart and put them back together. Ever dissected a pencil with an exacto knife just to see how they got the lead in it? Sometimes you have to take calculated risks to get what you want, and to make progress and improve things.

I find it a wasteful, to design a switch that does the same function in the ON position as it does in the OFF position. I would much rather have the driving lights switch ON, from the toggle switch panel, than to allow a dealer to hack a hole in the dashboard for a rocker switch. Out of the 6 switches, three of them are redundant. I would like to add to my MINI: switches to operate a garage door opener, turn on 2 temp actuated fans in the C-pillars to evacuate hot air from the interior when the car sits in the hot sun all day, and a switch for aux driving lights. All that could be done with some motifications to the standard switchpak---and you have 9 switchable functions in a 6 switch module.

All I need now, is a MINI wiring diagram and someone to donate their MINI, since I don't have my own yet!

ANY VOLUNTEERS?
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All I need now, is a MINI wiring diagram and someone to donate their MINI, since I don't have my own yet!

ANY VOLUNTEERS?

You know I may actually be interested in helping out.

On my Jetta, I purchased the Euro-Spec (e-code) headlights. They came with fogs in the housing, which I didn't have before. So I wired them up in parallel with the factory wireharness, and then purchased the European headlight switch so that the Switching would be OEM. With the Euro switch came the ability to wire up the rear fogs. I had it hooked up that way for a while, until I wired up seperate driving lights to the second position (previously rear fog) on the switch.

For the MINI, I'd like to fill that blank switch location with either the rear fog, OR now that you've mentioned it, the garage door opener idea sounds cool too.

But yes, I would like to figure out a way to make that blank toggle useful. Give me a couple weeks to get my car. I really wish someone would put out a MINI service manual (ATTENTION: ROBERT BENTLEY PRESS).
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Question A few more questions for a MINI owner

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You know I may actually be interested in helping out.

Hooray, we got a vi......volunteer!

1) What color are the pilot lights in the ends of the FRONT and REAR fog switches and are they the same brightness?
2) Why do the front and rear foglights have separate switches in the first place. Wouldn't it be logical to use both at the same time, every time?
3) When I was looking at the switch schematic a week ago, there appeared to be 3 LEDs on the bottom on the toggle switch panel---what do these illuminate? The 6 LEDs at the top light up the switch ICONs, but I don't see anything to illuminate at the bottom.
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I haven't seen it posted yet, so sorry if it has been. Has anyone been able to get and install the Euro switch panel with all the switches yet? I don't care if one doesn't work right now, I just want all the switches in my MCS. I don't mind getting it from Euro just as long as I can get it. Thanks.
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