My Cooper S Experience - MINI Cooper Forum - MINI2 Mini Cooper Forums
Mini2.com Forum Header Mini2.com Forum Header
Go Back   MINI Cooper Forum - MINI2 Mini Cooper Forums > Model Specific MINI Forums > MINI Cooper S > First Generation MINI Cooper S

First Generation MINI Cooper S MINI Cooper S 2002 - 2006

Please Visit our Site Sponsors
Mini2.com is the premier BMW Mini Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 01:25 PM
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 448
Local Time: 11:38 AM
My Cooper S Experience

Too early to post anything really definative as we've only done 150 miles so far. Picked it up yesterday. Flawless handover procedure from the dealership (Godfrey Hall, Coventry), including a test drive.

The beast is an Electric Blue Cooper S with white roof, stripes and wheels. Option-wise I took the Chili pack (1/2 leather, 17" wheels, xenons and aircon), upgraded to climate control and added DSC. Oh, and the useless ISOFIX brackets (more later).

On the way home from collecting it, I noticed a light clunk or heavy rattle when I engaged gear a bit heavily, or accelerated/braked a bit sharply. A little bit worrying. then I remembered stowing the locking wheel-nut in the ashtray - move it somewhere else, and hey presto, the rattle disappears!

Note on the ashtray vs the non-smoker's option - take the standard ashtray and fag lighter every time. The ashtray is just a lidded pot, and can be taken out leaving you with an extra cupholder. If you tell your dealer you want the non-smoker's option, they just remove the ashtray and the lighter and bin them - better to keep both and pass them on when you resell the car. I noticed a 12v socket in the boot, too - neat touch.

17" wheel debate? Well, I'm very very worried about kerbing the wheels - there is no overlap of tyre to protect the wheels at all. They look good (and easy to clean, I hope), but the ride IS stiff, particularly with everything being so new. And I'm coming from a classic Mini Cooper with racing shocks and stiffened springs. The big wheels smooth out big speedbumps and the like, but you can feel every imperfection in the tarmac. Still undecided as to whether 16" wheels are a better choice.

Currently keeping the revs betwen 2000 and 3500rpm, extending to 4000rpm when the load is light, moving it between gears to avoid sitting at one rev speed for more that a couple of miles. As we get beyond the 600-mile point, I'll push the revs up a bit more. Managed to stall it just the once (best avoided with a new car, but the clutch is a little heavy at the moment).

Problems? None at all. Well, there's a noticeable blemish on the driver's seat in the middle of the cloth - and the dealer's attempts to shift it have made it worse. But I'm sure that will be sorted. The car tracks dead straight - although it is VERY sensitive to camber. There is almost no noticeable castor - the steering wheel shows no inclination to return to centre if you let go of it, which doesn't really suit me after spending 6 years driving a car with enough castor to require the forearm strength of Popeye to hold through a bend ...

Love the climate control. Who cares about fuel consumption in weather like this? I'd always thought that air-conditioning meant winding down a window and driving faster.

I also love the foglight switches - dinky little LEDs on the end of the switches which light up when they're on. Nice touch.

And the gearbox - really sweet. Nice positive change into each gear, nice short throw, nice cool knob on the gearstick. This is a great gearbox. Others have said that the gearing is over-tall, and this was one of my worries. Well they're wrong (IMHO, of course). Unlike every other car I've driven, first is tall enough to be useable as more than just a get-you-moving gear. And the rest of the ratios seem pretty close to me. Now I haven't been doing any Grand Prix starts yet, and it's possible that a tall first gear is going to hamper this, but I'd say for general driving the 'box seems pretty much perfect as it is.

Hate the obvious plastic mould lines around the edge of the dashboard by the way, and the sprue point on the clear rear lamp cluster cover - I know why it's there, but with a bit more thought I think both are aesthetic mistakes which could have been avoided. And don't get me started on those little black flaps in the rear wheel-arches ....

I said I'd return to the ISOFIX brackets. Well it seems that the child seats ARE now available in ISOFIX configuration, but not the 0-9mths baby carrier. So they're not a lot of use to me at the moment.

I spent the morning looking for a suitable car seat/pushchair/pram thingy. No easy task, that - wit the cancellation of the BMW baby carrier and buggy, you have to look in Mothercare, Toy R Us etc. But beware the size of the MINI's boot. Virtually everything sold is too darned big for the boot, even when completely folded up and disassembled.

The ONLY items we found that would fit were Graeco branded travel systems - a travel system being a pushchair/lightweight pram onto which a car seat suitable for babies up to 9 months (baby carrier) will attach.

The Graeco Mirage Travel System (approx £130) & the Toys R Us branded Graeco Bruin Travel System (similar price - I suspect they are one and the same) were a tight fit lengthways in the boot but left enough space for a smallish bag in the boot in front of it, and the Graeco Metrolight/Metrosport Travel System (the Metrolight is a Mothercare exclusive - but they are the same product) also fitted in the back for around £270 - but that leaves about enough room in the boot for a packet of crisps. We struck lucky, and were undercharged for the Metrosport by about £100

The Metro comes with a "docking station" for the car, which can be left on the rear seat permanently, and the baby carrier then clips into the docking station with the minimum of fuss. The Mirage used a very similar baby carrier, but had no docking station. This meant feeding the rear passenger seatbelt through the baby carrier itself - not that tricky, but with the limited access to the rear of the car too tricky for me to do every time we go out. The docking station is available separately for people that buy the Mirage, BTW. Who says the MINI is too small t cart around a baby?

Graeco, I charge commission of 5% on every sale as a result of this shameless plug

Overall I love this car - and I haven't gone looking for any performance yet.

Ordered my "S" August '01. Arrived July '02. EB with white roof, wheels and stripes, Chili pack, DSC and climate control. Hate those 17" runflats though.

Can now be seen all over the West Midlands, as a blue blur passing everything at speed
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 01:31 PM
ELISEBOY's Avatar
MINI2 Master
Offline
Send a message via ICQ to ELISEBOY Send a message via Yahoo to ELISEBOY
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Essex
Posts: 2,163
Local Time: 12:38 PM
England
VC - great news, glad you are enjoying it and found the report very good.

By the time you get it up to Silverstone it should be run in nicely!!

See you there
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 01:37 PM
spanky2k's Avatar
MINI2 Crash Test Driver
Offline
Send a message via MSN to spanky2k
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Brighton
Posts: 1,384
Local Time: 12:38 PM
United Kingdom View spanky2k's Cosmos Black & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper Profile
Cool! Nice one!! Enjoy!! Nice report too.

Spanky2k
Officially the worst MINI driver in the Universe!!!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 05:20 PM
MINI2 Premium Member
Wandering....
Offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Offline
Posts: 40,831
Local Time: 11:38 AM
Male
Good luck with the car, and enjoy it !!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 05:39 PM
QQQ's Avatar
QQQ
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: rotterdam
Posts: 2,412
Local Time: 12:38 PM
Netherlands View QQQ's Dark Silver & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Thank you VC, very nice report Glad you like it and couldn't agree more with your comments on the gearbox.

Enjoy!

Last edited by QQQ; Jul 17th, 2002 at 04:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 06:45 PM
LMB
MINI2 Premium Member Has met Quack Quack Jack
...where´s the any-key?
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: ** Space **
Posts: 23,186
Local Time: 11:38 AM
England Male View LMB's Thunder Blue & Silver 1st Gen MINI Cooper S JCW GP Profile
Have fun
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Jul 16th, 2002, 07:46 PM
noahe's Avatar
MINI2 Master
Offline
Send a message via ICQ to noahe
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,644
Local Time: 07:38 AM
Canada View noahe's Chili Red & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Re: My Cooper S Experience

Quote:
Originally posted by Viscount Charles
And don't get me started on those little black flaps in the rear wheel-arches ....

Take 'em off. The North American cars do not have these. My Canadian MCS has 17" rims, and no little filler thing. Obviously, they are not really needed, except some silly law, that won't likely be enforced? Or will it?

Chilli Red/White Cooper S, Sport Pack & Sunroof. Delivered June 12th, 2002!
Now with MCS Winter Tire Package.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Jul 17th, 2002, 04:14 AM
ELISEBOY's Avatar
MINI2 Master
Offline
Send a message via ICQ to ELISEBOY Send a message via Yahoo to ELISEBOY
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Essex
Posts: 2,163
Local Time: 12:38 PM
England
Re: Re: My Cooper S Experience

Quote:
Originally posted by noahe
except some silly law, that won't likely be enforced? Or will it?

Sods law thought, that when they are removed you will be pulled for it!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Jul 17th, 2002, 04:42 AM
An_S_4_Me's Avatar
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wakefield, UK
Posts: 572
Local Time: 12:38 PM
United Kingdom View An_S_4_Me's Dark Silver & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Nice one mate, just you wait until you get her run in, dropping into 4th at 70 and blasting past people is infectious!

Andy

DS Cooper S w/white bits, DSC, 1/2 Leather all black trim, CHILI Pack, TLC - ARRIVED 01/07/02
Sold 29th May 2004 to make way for house
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Jul 17th, 2002, 04:55 AM
EBMCS03's Avatar
M5 Extraordinare!
Offline
Send a message via ICQ to EBMCS03 Send a message via AIM to EBMCS03 Send a message via MSN to EBMCS03 Send a message via Yahoo to EBMCS03
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: So Cal
Posts: 6,795
Local Time: 04:38 AM
United States Male View EBMCS03's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
NICE report... Thanks for sharing! Enjoy your car... while I ejnoy my wait...
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Jul 19th, 2002, 07:29 PM
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: uk
Posts: 448
Local Time: 11:38 AM
400 miles on the clock, and the engine is definately getting looser. It no longer requires real effort to get the revs climbing - instead, the car seems almost eager to rev higher.

Still pushing it no higher than 4,000rpm at the moment - will extend this as we pick up more miles - and moving it around a lot between 2,000 and 4,000. Not noticed any change in the gearbox (which is good - I like the positive feel as you slot it into gear), although the clutch is getting smoother.

Still tracks dead straight - but very sensitive steering, and no sign of ever wanting to return to centre.

Found another rattle - again, a clunking noise heard form the rear when a gear change does not go smoothly, or the road is rough. It's the rear seatbelt knocking on the plastic side trim

Getting just over 30mpg while running it in, which is acceptable.

Main problem now is it needs a wash - particularly the once-white alloy wheels

Ordered my "S" August '01. Arrived July '02. EB with white roof, wheels and stripes, Chili pack, DSC and climate control. Hate those 17" runflats though.

Can now be seen all over the West Midlands, as a blue blur passing everything at speed
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Jul 19th, 2002, 08:06 PM
fred-guido's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 145
Local Time: 06:38 AM
United States
The wheel shouldn't get as dirty after the initial brake in or settling of the brakes, but good luck with those! I foresee you spending a lot of weekend hours keeping those rims looking white!

MCS Pure Silver/Black
Lapis Blue Leather, Black door panels
Sport Package
Factory Installed Alarm
Born 08/09/02,Delivered 08/28/02!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Jul 20th, 2002, 01:34 AM
Boo's Avatar
Boo
Sponsor and Widget
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney
Posts: 1,732
Local Time: 09:38 PM
Australia View Boo's British Racing Green & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
cool reports, have fun... hopefully will join you in that happy driving in about 8 weeks

The original SWORKS
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Jul 20th, 2002, 01:56 AM
dinger's Avatar
TT or not TT
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent
Posts: 3,051
Local Time: 11:38 AM
United Kingdom
Quote:
Originally posted by Viscount Charles
Main problem now is it needs a wash - particularly the once-white alloy wheels

When we got the cooper the wife wanted white alloys so like a good hubby I agreed,on the understanding that she cleaned them 3 guesses who ended up cleaning them ALL the time.

Still we've ordered white wheels again on our S,so am I a glutton for punshiment or what,or is it a case of where theres a wheel theres a way.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Jul 20th, 2002, 07:09 AM
MINI2 Premium Member
Wandering....
Offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Offline
Posts: 40,831
Local Time: 11:38 AM
Male
Quote:
Originally posted by dinger


When we got the cooper the wife wanted white alloys so like a good hubby I agreed,on the understanding that she cleaned them 3 guesses who ended up cleaning them ALL the time.

Still we've ordered white wheels again on our S,so am I a glutton for punshiment or what,or is it a case of where theres a wheel theres a way.

I know that feeling dinger......my wife said she would wash our black MINI regularly.......did she ???.......Two chances !!

Imaging how much cleaning time a black car with white wheels would need !!!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My great experience with a cooper 06!! simplekid15 General Discussion 3 Oct 24th, 2006 10:16 PM
Cooper S Experience at Rockingham SoggyCornFlakes UK & Ireland Discussion & Event Planning 8 Dec 7th, 2004 09:31 PM
any experience about Ac Schnitzer Cooper S Figarro First Generation MINI Tuning 1 Mar 31st, 2004 07:00 PM
JCW Cooper experience Blade78 First Generation MINI Cooper 26 Sep 11th, 2003 10:06 PM
My Cooper (non S) Experience (long) billkrz First Generation Faults & Fixes 1 Jul 6th, 2003 07:21 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:38 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2