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Old May 3rd, 2007, 11:48 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)
Never found that. When you do induce a bit of oversteer it is easily corrected with throttle and a bit of oposite lock......never had a tank slapper.

Maybe i cut my teeth on pug 205gti's and clio 16v's.....now they bit big style

Yep Pug 205's and Nova SRi's are reknowned for biting boy racers.

It was acceptable in the 80's
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 11:54 AM
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of all the cars that I have driven, I find the mini brilliantly balanced, its adjustability is fantastic.. you must be overdriving the car if your having problems with 'scary' oversteer in a mini..
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Old May 12th, 2007, 06:31 PM
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omg...u say (Its awful in my MCS and its one of the only things that lets the car down). MCS is one of the Best Handling cars...and thats what it does the BEST!! If there is a problem with your tires or your driving dont blame the car. Sry for saying this but Minis had and have great handling and should be treated with Respect.

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I only get understeer in the wet.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM
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Production cars are designed to understeer rather than oversteer when you turn, in for supposed safety reasons, that's just how it is, what else are you expecting to happen once it starts breaking away?

Are you bothered by the fact that it is starting to slide (in which case drive slower) or is it that you want it to break away neutral or into oversteer? - If you want a neutral handling car you are going to have to set it up accordingly.

My Westfield in the avatar is actually a slightly understeering car on an even throttle but has been pushed into oversteer on throttle (in the pic). It would do the same as your Mini, just at higher speeds.

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I fitted a 22mm diameter 3 position adjustable rear sway bar replacing the standard 18mm (Cooper) rear bar - (19mm on the MCS). The back of the car stays flatter now and tends to follow the front rather than push it on. It also works well under heavy braking from high speed on track days.
Check the Mini Mania Web site. If you only change one thing it should be the rear bar. It involves lowering the rear sub frame so allow half a day to fit it!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Frank.B (original)
I fitted a 22mm diameter 3 position adjustable rear sway bar replacing the standard 18mm (Cooper) rear bar - (19mm on the MCS). The back of the car stays flatter now and tends to follow the front rather than push it on. It also works well under heavy braking from high speed on track days.
Check the Mini Mania Web site. If you only change one thing it should be the rear bar. It involves lowering the rear sub frame so allow half a day to fit it!

It's interesting what you say about braking. Does this mean the bar eliminated that jitteryness from the rear that I feel under heavy braking?

It was acceptable in the 80's
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Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original)
Forgot to mention driving technique as well. Slow in, fast out.

Most people make the mistake of braking too late, carrying too much speed into the bend and ending up understeering and not being able to get the throttle down. Get your speed down earlier and enough not to understeer, cruise through the bend and you'll find you can get on the throttle a lot sooner.

It's smoother and it's quicker.


Good advice
Sounds like someones done a track day!
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Quote: Originally Posted by DevilRat (original)
Good advice
Sounds like someones done a track day!

Just a couple

It amazing how much faster you can go just by calming down a bit and making everything nice and smooth.

It was acceptable in the 80's
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Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original)
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It amazing how much faster you can go just by calming down a bit and making everything nice and smooth.


I did a single seater experience at Silverstone & learnt my lesson about how fast to enter a corner. I overtook 2 cars on a straight then ended going into a corner too fast so the car spun right round!
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Quote: Originally Posted by grantw (original)
I find the best way to tackle a deserted roundabout is to be fast in, but inducing a little lift off oversteer by quickly letting off the power on turn in, even with standard runflats this helps balance what would be impending understeer.... though be ready for the back end to come into play..


Fantastic fun doing this but the other night i did freek myself out abit doing it when the back end comes out abit to far and you have to try and correct it!

I think i just need some more practice!

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Quote: Originally Posted by DevilRat (original)
I did a single seater experience at Silverstone & learnt my lesson about how fast to enter a corner. I overtook 2 cars on a straight then ended going into a corner too fast so the car spun right round!

was the the formula ford day single seaters?

I did that for my 21st, was amazing, never span it, I had some good lap times as i was slow in and fast out the bends unlike some of the nutters who span it lots as they belted past on the streights but didnt break for the corners.

I did the italian job day up in Loughbourogh too, that was very good, e type jag was great fun, no power assited anything in that best

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was the the formula ford day single seaters?

I did that for my 21st, was amazing, never span it, I had some good lap times as i was slow in and fast out the bends unlike some of the nutters who span it lots as they belted past on the streights but didnt break for the corners.

I did the italian job day up in Loughbourogh too, that was very good, e type jag was great fun, no power assited anything in that best


It was formula fords at the Stowe Circuit at Silverstone. After I had been out for a few laps my instructor told me "I know your dad, & he says go faster," so I did & that's when I span off! But I only span off once & I didn't stall it!
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