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Old Mar 15th, 2013, 06:33 PM
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Mini Cooper S JCW rolling road results

I have a Mini Cooper s with JCW package.
55 plate.

Only had it a couple of weeks so out of curiosity I stuck it on a rolling road today...

Results in and I was fairly surprised/diasspointed.. But should I?

After the second run it came out as: 187.5BHP at the engine and 153.4 BHP at the wheels.

Post your results before so I can compare or any feedback to why I got these figures would be great. I heard it should be 200-210BHP?!

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Old Mar 15th, 2013, 06:44 PM
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Are you 100% sure it has the JCW tuning package?
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Old Mar 15th, 2013, 06:49 PM
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Yep all badges on it plus the certificate... Is it worth going Mini dealership and somehow getting it verified
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Old Mar 15th, 2013, 08:09 PM
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What colour are the injectors ino my JCW had the 380cc injectors wich were a blue but when mine was standard it ran 199bhp and suppsed to be 200/210 also i believe the jcw has a red dot on the front drivers side of the head am not 100% sure on that tho
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Old Mar 15th, 2013, 08:32 PM
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Should be pushing about 210bhp mate , mine does . Anyone can put badges on a car Nd can fake a certificate ! I'd look into it personally mate I was you . Fingers crossed it is a real jcw upgrade and just needs a tune up
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Old Mar 16th, 2013, 10:23 AM
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You say it has ALL the JCW badges, does that include 3 badges under the bonnet (intercooler cover, engine plate and airbox) JCW exhaust with JCW logo on the tail finishers. If it has all of those but is a replica it's very likely to also have a reduced super charger pulley as well which would make the same sort of power as a JCW anyway. Unless it's a Cooper S with a JCW airbox and exhaust and no other mods, you are down on power and you need to find out why.

Did you get a print out? What fuel were you using? How well has it been maintained? where did you have it done?

A print out is needed to really see what is going on, ideally with AFR data

Fuel is important, JCW models will never made their advertised figure on 95 octane, they often struggle even with something higher.

Maintenance is very important OEM service schedule keeps the car on the road but not performing at it's best.
For comparison, i had my Cooper S fitted with a JCW airbox and exhaust, maintained it well, had it health checked and a 15% pulley installed and it ran 184whp which is more than a lot of stock JCW ever run and is 30.5 more than you and it's done over 70k miles

Where did you take it to be tested? if you took it to a mini specialist they should have been able to tell you there and then if it was a genuine JCW, they would have been able to diagnose a lot of common faults just from looking at the graphs.

You should probably, post up your dyno print out, put in a couple of tanks of v-power, change your plugs unless it's had an inspection II in the last year or 2 at the most, change the air-filter for a reusable one and check the coil terminals for corrosion and clean them up or replace it if needed. If it does not feel a huge amount quicker, get it booked in to a mini specialist for a dyno health check, or if you don't do DIY then just do that straight away.
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Yep all 3 badges under the hood and jcw branded exhaust with logos on the tail pipes.

I had my mini done at T&M auto in colchester, the rolling road was a little bit old school or so it felt. Maybe this could have affected the results.

The print out is below...

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Can't post proper URL haven't made enough posts

Fuel wise it was running standard unleaded.

I believe the car has been well maintained, regularly serviced and all documented. Well so I believe, only had the vehicle 3 weeks myself.

I know a guy at BMW so will be speaking to him Monday and see if I can get the car verified by giving him my vin number, hopefully he can check something? But it definitely isn't a cat c etc as I've done per vehicle checks on it etc before I even looked at the car.

Will definitely be looking into changes air filter and the plugs and putting high octane fuel in.


How easy is it to see the injectors?

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i'll try and repost the image

It's not a very nice graph to read, it's in kw not bhp, and it's in km/h not rpm
if i am reading it right those 2 squiggles down the bottom the bottom are the afr plots
you can see they do not shoot up at the end, which would indicate a lack of fuel, without a scale it's hard to say for sure but that would seem to show you are ok on fuel.

Another possibility which i did not think of in my last post is high rpm belt slip on the supercharger, it could possibly explain those sudden drops at the top of the graphs, pulley belt is another thing that is only changed on inspection II, and by then could be well passed it's best

The blue top injectors are visible if you know what you are looking at, they are underneath the inter-cooler so not that easy to spot the first time unless your have a fairly good idea of what you are looking for.
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I had a almost fulll tank... Unless there is something not passing fuel around properly.. I'm no mechanic so can't say.

On closer inspection I think I have blue injectors..

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So Do you recommend changing the belt , spark plugs and air filter then put it back on the rollers?
Can anyone recommend a mini specialist around Essex area?
Thanks for you help.

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Old Mar 18th, 2013, 09:29 AM
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yes those are the JCW injectors so looks like you have a full JCW kit

the airfilter i would probably change for an after market one as they save you money in the long run as you never need replace it again, just clean it
as for changing the bits like pulley belt and spark plugs, I'm not a fan of the idea of changing parts just to see if it helps, i think it is much better to diagnose the root cause before any changes, but on the other hand these are service parts so do require periodic replacement anyway and if they are they cause they could be difficult to diagnose so it really depends on when they were last changed.
Some people will keep them until the book says they need to be changed at Inpsection II, which is every 4th service which can be up to 60k miles or 8 years old.
Personally i'd aim for maybe half that, but some people go further and change them every year.

I took my car to 1320 in St Neots,
1320 MINI - MINI Performance Parts
it's not in essex but i travelled a lot further to go see them as many others do and it was worth the trip
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Maybe I can help!

Check out my thread that I posted back in 2003!

http://www.mini2.com/forum/first-gen...-not-good.html

I had a JCW Mini years ago and had exactly the same problem. The solution is in my thread You "may" be running standard Cooper S ECU software like I was!

Hope this helps

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