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Old Oct 1st, 2012, 05:14 PM
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Which coolant colour - please help!

Hello all,

I'm sure this has been done to death but I've searched all over and can't seem to find a conclusive answer so I'm hoping all you Mini enthusiasts can help!

I have a 2003 Mini Cooper and the colour of my coolant is red. It was added new about a year and a half ago after I needed a replacement radiator (a local garage added in the coolant).

I was looking to get it topped up as so I rang BMW to buy some new coolant and they told me my coolant should be blue!

I then rang another 2 places, one said I need red NOT blue and another said it doesn't matter what I use!

I then went to the place that said I needed red and spoke to another guy who went to give me blue! I explained everything to him and I ended up buying some red coolant just to top up. On the front it says it's suitable for BMWs, Lamborginis, Mini Cooper Diesel...I told the guy my cooper is Petrol and he said this red bottle won't harm the car and that Lamborgini never made a diesel car.

I'm thinking of getting the coolant drained out and topped up but in the meantime I'm not sure whether the red coolant is harming my system!

My clutch failed 2 weeks ago, last week my power steering went and my insurance in due next week so as you can imagine this is one more thing that's stressing me out so I'd really appreciate some advice on this!

Thank you very much,

Vicki
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Old Oct 1st, 2012, 05:49 PM
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I think there'd is a better quality then the blue. Last longer and that. It don't matter what you put in blue or red. But that's my thought about it good luck
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The coolant in my new JCW is BLUE.

In the old days, dont know if it still applies, you know the time, when knights were bold and pansies were flowers there was too main types of engine coolant/antifreeze., well no actually 3.

The first was Bluecol antifreeze which was BLUE, this was recommended for all engines in particular those containing aluminium components. This was glycol based and didnt evaporate and lose its strength, unless you topped it up occssionally with just water that is. This was classed as the best.

The second type was red/pink in colour, Quiksave special, also an antifreeze, this was cheaper and over time lost its strength as this type evaporated.

The third was, again red/pink, but was just a coolant rust/corrosion inhibitor for summer/warm climate use only and wasnt antifreeze, so you had to drain it in winter and refill with an antifreeze mixture.

So on that basis the best type is the BLUE stuff.
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Old Oct 1st, 2012, 06:31 PM
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Thanks for your replies both. Again one says red, the other says blue .

The Nun - the guy in the shop told me that blue normally gets replaced after 2 years as it looses it's strength and that red in the long life so is stronger.

The red I've bought contains ethenol glycol - do you know if that's a problem?

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This is off the net about the latest antifreeze types so you can read and decide for yourself

About Antifreeze and Coolant

Most antifreeze and coolant products on the market are ethylene glycol based with additives to prevent corrosion, lubricate seals and water pumps and aid in heat transfer to the coolant from the metal of the engine. Antifreeze coolant should typically be mixed with water at the ratio of one part antifreeze to one part water. This gives antifreeze protection down to minus 34 degrees and overheating / boil over protection up to 265 degrees. Do not use pure antifreeze in a cooling system without using at least 30 percent water in the mixture.

Most antifreeze coolant sold in recent years has been the traditional green coolant which has a life span of two to three years or up to 30,000 miles. Green antifreeze contains silicates, phosphates and borates as corrosion inhibitors to keep the solution alkaline. As long as the solution remains alkaline, corrosion is controlled and the cooling system is protected. Over time corrosion inhibitors are depleted and the corrosion protection is lost, therefore green antifreeze should be changed every two years.

Aluminium is especially vulnerable to corrosion and many vehicles have heads, radiators and other aluminium components in the cooling system. If the coolant in an engine cooling system is changed before corrosion inhibitors reach dangerously low levels, corrosion damage is prevented.
Long Life Antifreeze

An alternative to tradition green antifreeze is a product currently used by many vehicle manufacturers. Orange or Red antifreeze known as long life or extended life antifreeze increases the useful life of engine coolant. Long life antifreeze is also ethylene glycol based.

The difference between the two colours is that Orange / Red antifreeze contains a different type of corrosion inhibitor that has a much longer life than silicates, phosphates and borates. Orange / Red antifreeze contains organic acids that protect engine parts from corrosion.

Green antifreeze does not mix with long life antifreeze. Never mix the two colours in a cooling system. The organic acids in orange types will cause precipitation of silicates in the green type and corrosion protection is greatly reduced.

Orange type antifreezes are suitable for up to five years or 100,000 miles. They can also be used in many older vehicles if all of the green antifreeze is flushed from the system and is replaced with the orange / red antifreeze. The lifespan of long life antifreeze is about four years or 60,000 miles in older cars.

If you have doubts about switching from the green type of antifreeze to long life antifreeze, contact you retailer or car dealer and ask about compatibility with your cooling system. You can also contact Tetrosyl by email for further advice and technical support.

The level of protection of the coolant has little relevance to the corrosion protection. An antifreeze tester may show adequate frost protection but cannot test for corrosion protection which is depleted over time.

Change your coolant mix on a schedule based on the colour of the antifreeze you are using. Severe corrosion to engine and cooling system components can occur with resulting expensive repairs.

Top Up

Bluecol U is a universal top up antifreeze coolant which is suitable for use in all vehicles (both petrol and diesel) and it will mix with all colours of antifreeze already in the radiator / expansion tank.

When Bluecol U is added to antifreeze already in the cooling system, the synthetic process and additive package in Bluecol U enhances and revitalizes the qualities of the original antifreeze, providing exceptional all year round protection and performance in all driving conditions.

Bluecol U Antifreeze offers superior corrosion resistance over extended service periods, which can also be left in the system as a coolant and inhibitor against rust up to a maximum of 5 years.

Ready Mixed with de-ionised water for added convenience
Conforms to British Standard BS6580 (1992)
Antifreeze protection down to -37°C
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Looks like what youve bought is ok.
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Old Oct 1st, 2012, 10:21 PM
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The Nuns post confirms what I had previously researched on this now confusing subject with all the choices of antifreeze now on offer......life was so much simpler in the 'old days'.
My 2002 MINI has always had red/orange coolant during its original 5 years of TLC services with BMW Dealers.

Last time I looked Halfords more expensive long life antifreeze was blue and they did not seem to sell red......
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