Fitting upper strut brace to 2003 R53 MCS - MINI Cooper Forum
Go Back   MINI Cooper Forum > MINI Technical Forums > MINI Suspension > First Generation MINI Suspension


First Generation MINI Suspension
Find Sponsor products associated with this forum
MINI Suspension from 2001 - 2006

Mini2.com is the premier Mini Cooper Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OMP lower strut brace fitting. spikeyadrian First Generation MINI Suspension 1 Aug 12th, 2013 07:20 PM
fitting strut brace with cavenspped strut defenders BigDaddy General Discussion 4 Apr 14th, 2013 12:09 AM

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 09:38 AM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire
Posts: 125
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom
Fitting upper strut brace to 2003 R53 MCS

Can anyone tell me the correct torque settings to use when replacing the 3 upper strut nuts (new ones!) after fitting a JCW strut brace?

Thanks

Spike
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 10:24 AM
MINI2 Premium Member
MINI2 Master
Online
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,168
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom Male
I dont know on a R53 but on the Gen 2 models you have to use, so it says different nuts to standard secure it.
Gen 2 torque is 34Nm or 25ftlbs and those are M8 collar nuts
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 10:40 AM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire
Posts: 125
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom
Thanks, I am aware of the need to use special non-standard nuts......I've bought the strut brace secondhand from a breakers and I have asked the seller to supply the nuts that were removed from the donor vehicle (I'm hoping these are the correct nuts!) but I'm also aware that whenever you remove the struts, you are supposed to use new nuts to refit them.

The correct nuts for fitting the JCW strut brace are £40-£50 for a set of six!

Any one know the correct torque settings for a Gen 1 MCS?

Spike
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 11:10 AM
MINI2 Premium Member
MINI2 Master
Online
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,168
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom Male
If they are the same size nuts then I would have thought they would be the same torque?

Found this from an earlier post back in 2005 for a Gen1:

(34 Nm is the correct torque and oh BTW...yer supposed to NOT re-use the nuts......)

So same as Gen 2.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 11:18 AM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire
Posts: 125
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom
Thanks I think I will go with 34Nm and wait and see what type/condition the nuts are supplied with the brace.

If they are standard M8 collar nuts, its got to be possible to buy 6 correct thread nuts for less than £40 ......its not as if they have the JCW logo engraved on them!!!

Spike
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 11:24 AM
MINI2 Premium Member
MINI2 Master
Online
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,168
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom Male
That torque rating from the chart in the manual is for an M8 grade 10.9
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 12:12 PM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire
Posts: 125
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom
Just managed to download the correct fitting instructions from here:

MotoringFile » Archive » JCW Strut Brace Install How To

The torque setting is shown as 35Nm.

Also, it is interesting that the nuts shown as part of the fixing kit have a protruding collar below the flange which fits into the strut brace holes, they are also fitted with additional washers as well.

The nuts I have been supplied with don't have the protruding collar beneath the flange but do appear to match the correct nuts as available currently from Mini Sport Ltd (at £8.34 each).

Spike
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 02:30 PM
MINI2 Premium Member
MINI2 Master
Online
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,168
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom Male
Might be worth querying with them then about the collared nut, maybe the current braces have more accurately drilled holes, ie not enlarged so they dont need the collar??
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Apr 3rd, 2014, 02:54 PM
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire
Posts: 125
Local Time: 06:50 PM
United Kingdom
Thats a good thought, thanks.

I think the reason the correct nuts have the collar beneath the flange is to extend the thread down below the surface of the brace fixing plate.

This makes a lot of sense to me as the amount of thread showing above the top of the tower is considerably reduced once you have the brace installed on top of the bolts.

I have now got what appears to be the correct part number for the nuts so I'm going to see if BMW can supply them although I don't expect them to be any cheaper!

Part No.: B51.71.7.895.241 NUT

I suspect that a lot of braces bought secondhand have been fitted using the incorrect nuts including the one I have just bought judging by the damage marks around the holes in the strut end plates.

Spike
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OMP lower strut brace fitting. spikeyadrian First Generation MINI Suspension 1 Aug 12th, 2013 07:20 PM
fitting strut brace with cavenspped strut defenders BigDaddy General Discussion 4 Apr 14th, 2013 12:09 AM

» Recent Threads
coolant liquid above max
Today 05:53 PM
by genik
Last post by Dermottdog
Today 06:45 PM
1 Replies, 6 Views
engine will not start properly
Aug 12th, 2014 03:37 PM
by genik
Last post by genik
Today 05:50 PM
3 Replies, 599 Views
behind the intake manifold
Today 05:47 PM
by genik
Last post by genik
Today 05:47 PM
0 Replies, 7 Views
Ch4 Hollyoaks Train Crash...... (with a Mini)
Today 02:47 PM
by mab01uk
Last post by The Nun
Today 05:13 PM
1 Replies, 59 Views
Mini dealer or Independant for used Mini - Southern Ontario
Today 05:01 PM
by Avro
Last post by Avro
Today 05:01 PM
0 Replies, 15 Views
More Ship Tracking
Jul 24th, 2005 11:25 PM
by nclorax
Last post by wh1tby
Today 04:18 PM
29 Replies, 23,351 Views
The Mini Story at the BMW Museum
Today 03:20 PM
by mab01uk
Last post by mab01uk
Today 03:20 PM
0 Replies, 64 Views
window problem can't find fix
Yesterday 02:02 PM
by Bryno
Last post by heathwebbo
Today 02:41 PM
3 Replies, 228 Views
Correct tyre pressure
Today 11:00 AM
by Niv2
Last post by The Nun
Today 02:10 PM
3 Replies, 124 Views
k&n air filters/induction kits - mini one r50
Today 01:35 PM
by JDallow
Last post by JDallow
Today 01:35 PM
0 Replies, 74 Views
Intercooler
Today 11:13 AM
Last post by Kbizzle84
Today 11:13 AM
0 Replies, 85 Views
BMW 2012 mini one LCI 1.6 petrol
Today 10:58 AM
Last post by baines.j2
Today 10:58 AM
0 Replies, 84 Views
Transmission failed
Nov 12th, 2014 12:48 PM
Last post by mab01uk
Today 10:57 AM
3 Replies, 432 Views
help!! my 2007 mini bonnet release cable snapped.
Yesterday 05:21 PM
by dtoru
Last post by The Nun
Today 10:05 AM
1 Replies, 179 Views
MAF sensor
Yesterday 02:16 PM
by selma
Last post by selma
Today 08:38 AM
5 Replies, 239 Views
2007 Mini Cooper R56 MAF Sensor issue
Sep 19th, 2014 07:27 AM
Last post by Omibal07
Today 05:38 AM
1 Replies, 693 Views
MINI Remote Central Locking Won't Unlock
Oct 25th, 2014 06:33 PM
by KrisL
Last post by heathwebbo
Today 01:35 AM
2 Replies, 455 Views
Parking sensors removal
Yesterday 07:38 PM
by Sian E
Last post by Sian E
Yesterday 07:40 PM
1 Replies, 153 Views
Blower motor not working
Nov 14th, 2014 03:40 PM
Last post by Jakeostler17
Yesterday 06:56 PM
3 Replies, 307 Views
» Premium
» Auto Insurance
» Wheel & Tire Center

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:50 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2