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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 07:25 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
of the gauges offered, i am not too sure which are of that much use??

Fuel Economy (not required)
Fuel Rate (not required)
Battery Voltage (OK)
Coolant Temperature (not required
Intake Air Temperature (OK)
Engine Speed (RPM) (not required)
Vehicle speed (MPH) (not required)
Manifold Pressure (not available on some vehicles)
Engine Load (OK, but how is it calculated?)
Throttle Position (not required)
Ignition Timing (OK)
Open/Closed Loop (??)

Seems to me that really it only offers 3 reading that are of any actual use.

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The ScanGauge coolant temp reading is very useful as the MINI gauge is massively inaccurate; its reads center of dial i.e. warmed up at 75-100c according to the ScanGauge

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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 07:44 AM
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Rigsey - between 75 and 100 is around the 90 deg C mark, so that is correct for the centre of the MINI dial is it not? Not sure what you mean by massively inaccurate?

Sam - Boost, OK, not too bad, but not a reading of use until you do the maths. The water coolant temp is indeed usefull, but already offered as a factory fitted dial.

So, i still stand by my comment that only 3 (or 4 ) are of any use. It appears that everything else is just a marketing ploy to appear more involved than it actually is.

As for code scanning and resetting, then you could do this with an OBDii tool and have a lot more data available too.

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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 08:07 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
Rigsey - between 75 and 100 is around the 90 deg C mark, so that is correct for the centre of the MINI dial is it not? Not sure what you mean by massively inaccurate?
K.

The MINI gauge reads dead center (i.e. warmed up) from 75c+. My MINI's normal operating temp is 90c.

The MINI cooling fan kicks in at 104c at which point the gauge is still pretty much dead center.

Therefore you have a dead center range that represents anything between 75 and 104c i.e. a range of 29c; sounds pretty inaccurate to me

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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 09:38 AM
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Well, for me it was a pretty good all-in-one solution and as such good value for money as I do not have other gadgets/gauges (well, apart from G-tech).

As far as reading the boost, well, you get used to it. As the absolute pressures are above 30PSI I know that things are moving pretty rapidly around me
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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 09:46 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rigsey (original)
Therefore you have a dead center range that represents anything between 75 and 104c i.e. a range of 29c; sounds pretty inaccurate to me

Yes, this is the same story as my friends Renault. His temp meter was showing 7C degrees less than it should and Renault tried just to explain it away: "it just gives guidance". Well, for all I know, a 7C difference is about the difference between wearing shorts or long trousers..and this seems to apply to the MINI temp cauge
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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 03:55 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
So, i still stand by my comment that only 3 (or 4 ) are of any use. It appears that everything else is just a marketing ploy to appear more involved than it actually is.

As for code scanning and resetting, then you could do this with an OBDii tool and have a lot more data available too.

You can only display 4 readings at a time anyway

The XGAUGE feature allows to you to program in Horsepower so you can view HP and RPM readings.

What additional data does an OBDII tool give over the SCAN feature of a Scangauge?

I haven't tried the TRIP feature of the Scangauge but I'll bet it's a lot more accurate than the factory OBC

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OK folks. Thanks for the constructive feedback.. Was not aware that the temp gauge just sat there in the middle over such a large temp range, that prob explains why it appears to heat up so quickly.

Appreciate it is value for money, but it's not what i am looking for. I really want some kind of data logger (of everything) and then the top 4 or 5 main engine damaging attributes being recorded in car real time (eg. knocking, timing, oil temp, etc. ??)

It is a neat all in one unit though

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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 08:53 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
Appreciate it is value for money, but it's not what i am looking for. I really want some kind of data logger (of everything) and then the top 4 or 5 main engine damaging attributes being recorded in car real time (eg. knocking, timing, oil temp, etc. ??)

Something a little pricier that has data logging capability:
DashDyno SPD
Discussion of the DashDyno SPD can be found in the following thread:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3290491

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Smile Santa brought me a Scangauge for Christmas ...

Instead of fitting the Scangauge to the bottom of the switch panel, I decided to modify the bracket I used for the Fisher C-Box for mounting the Scangauge:
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You did much better out of santa than me then! Looks good!
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Quote: Originally Posted by sam_a156 (original)
Manifold absolute pressure = boost, so this is surely interesting to monitor if you have a boost leak (available!). Though there is a trick here: as it shows the absolute pressure (not the diff) you will have to subtract the figure it shows when the engine is not running (e.g. 14.5PSI) from the max manifold pressure (e.g. in my case 31.5PSI) to get the boost 17PSI. (I was confused with this first)

There's no need to do the math

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Thinking of getting one.
Does it come with a bracket?
How do you mount it?
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Just bought one myself. It shipped last night!
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Quote: Originally Posted by D-MAN (original)
Does it come with a bracket?
How do you mount it?

The Scangauge comes with Velcro strips to be used for mounting it.

As I posted earlier in this thread, I fabricated a bracket for mounting mine in the center-stack cubby.
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The Scangauge comes with Velcro strips to be used for mounting it.

As I posted earlier in this thread, I fabricated a bracket for mounting mine in the center-stack cubby.

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