Lohen Performance packages

[ant1]

Mine been running 250bhp since feb/04 and have had no issues what so ever. Mind you the cars has only covered 21k.

[Rallyepete]

Roland sorted me out on monday with my cooper (not the same i know) and throughout my visit he was very knowledgeable, helpful and above all professional. I will certainly be going back for further work by GTT.

And if your lucky, he will let you touch his turbo conversion. mmmmmmm, nice!

Pete

[futureal33]

What does this yo-yo effect feel like, is it because the throttle is so sensitive (after tuning) that for instance when you go over a bump in the road and your leg jerks onto the throttle, the car lunges forward and then back again when you take your foot off the pedal?

If so, this isnt necesserily a bad thing, it just shows how responsive our cars are that as soon as you even touch the throttle the car leaps into action

[Paul@1320]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooooooperslad (original)

I want to take my car to GTT but im just worried that I'm going to suffer from the yoyo affect like Ant FR and Aberdeen Al did

All cars are different and might suffer similar faults at different times in their life. I believe like Roland that the service intervals are to long for Minis espically the S, just the same way that your first mot is 3 years but you car could of covered 160,000 miles in that time and your car could be falling apart.

I think if you were worried about GTT kit you would of found something on this board to put you off by now, but all you see is praise, I dont see any connection with the yo yo and Rolands kits.

[Loui]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

All cars are different and might suffer similar faults at different times in their life. I believe like Roland that the service intervals are to long for Minis espically the S, just the same way that your first mot is 3 years but you car could of covered 160,000 miles in that time and your car could be falling apart.

Your so right Paul, like my minor problem with the T piece on the bypass valve, since Thomas sorted that out its been like very different car!!!!!! I think we found that tourqe which was missing on the Rollers the other week

[drumzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rallyepete (original)

Roland sorted me out on monday with my cooper (not the same i know) and throughout my visit he was very knowledgeable, helpful and above all professional. I will certainly be going back for further work by GTT.

And if your lucky, he will let you touch his turbo conversion. mmmmmmm, nice!

Pete

what sort of work can u do to coopers?

[Cooooooperslad]

Ok apologies to roland for pointing the finger there, just assumed it was due to the GTT package after seeing ANT FR's and Aberdeen Al's posts.

At the moment there are many pros and cons that I need to weigh up between the two companies to make a decision on who to use.

Lohen Use Alta parts (I favour these over GTT just because they are a larger company and probably have more RnD than GTT)

Lohen are £100ish cheaper

Lohen are 40 miles each way closer than GTT

But...

Lohen only use a 15% pulley, I'm really after 17% after hearing how much better they are than 17%

Lohen dont correct the bypass valve unlike GTT (easy bhp for the money it seems with no implications)

Lohen remap the car (really not a fan of these bluefin remaps, I've read on here that all minis are different and a remap should be unique. Bluefin is applying one generative map.

[Rigsey]

I'd suggest you phone each tuner direct and discuss your requirements and concerns.

[Richard Crofts]

Alta are no bigger than GTT. They operate a one garage enterprise in USA...Just the same as GTT run a one garage enterprise over here. The R&D for them is the same perhaps even less than Rolands work. Roland does less variety of parts....but have a think...maybe thats cos he spends more time R&Ding those than Alta do so they have time to diversify?!

Alta stuff is good but on some stuff GTT are better IMO. I run Alta gear as its is a little cheaper as a rule but theres a reason for that

I know several folks with GTT and Alta car none have major issues and I'd not hesitate to use either.

My suggestion is get GTT stuff and have it fitted by 1320autos and get the Rolling road before and after...they are good chaps...plus reasonably local. lohen are good too but they don't have a rolling road. Go for what you can afford and build the package up in time...Its what I did and it gives time for you to notic ethe improvemrents or problems as they happen

[Richard Crofts]

Crikey Rigsy just seen your car exterior and set-up...we could almost be twins! I'll have to keep a lookout for you around Rainham and the Medway towns when i'm at the other halfs!

[GARY GP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooooooperslad (original)

Ok, my car is currently booked in with GTT but there are a few things putting me off atm, distance (not only for the one trip but if there are any problems its a 450 miles round trip), price and a few things ive heard about making the car shudder. I'm really not keen on the idea of the bypass valve being "modified" and for what its worth id rather miss out on a few bhp and keep it standard.

I've been looking at lohens packages, I'm not keen on the idea of a remap really as I've heard some companys will risk the engines realiability just to gain a few bhp. For example making it lean in high revs to gain bhp when the original map is designed to richen the mixture to prevent pinking.

This made me think of just going to lohen with my own package design, the kit from GTT would have cost me near on £1k and will include bits im not keen on!

Was thinking of going to lohen asking for a 17% reduced pulley and shorter belt and iridium spark plugs. This leaves me alot of dollar for any other performance mods?

What kind of power could i expect to see from the above combination? (currently 163bhp)

What implications does the 17% reduced pulley have on the engine and realibilty / driveability of the car?

Thanks everyone and please correct my views if any are wrong, I'm a real worry guts when it comes to upgrading engine parts with aftermarket components.

my god don't cancel you will feel the Roland wrath!...

[Richard Crofts]

Oh here we go again

>>>>Wanders off till things calm down

[Cooooooperslad]

Im thinking as im the in the same county as richard he should take me for a test drive in his car so i can feel and hear what it sounds like, i know he has milly stuff too but still!

I think I'm going to stick with GTT now, sorry about sounding anal its just from looking and reading stuff and from odd comments ive obvisouly built up a false picture of GTT, main reason is probably just to me being a worry guts on this department!

[asodo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooooooperslad (original)

Im thinking as im the in the same county as richard he should take me for a test drive in his car so i can feel and hear what it sounds like, i know he has milly stuff too but still!

I think I'm going to stick with GTT now, sorry about sounding anal its just from looking and reading stuff and from odd comments ive obvisouly built up a false picture of GTT, main reason is probably just to me being a worry guts on this department!

Hey I know exactly how you feel, you just want to be right about this decision, my friend and I spent ages mulling it over, we ended up going down to GTT and staying the night down there in the Hotel recommended by Roland, both cars were down the next day. We both had butterflies all day, but once we got back in the cars, my god it was fantastic!

So far so good, no problems whatsoever, just an excellent job all round...

[Cooooooperslad]

Thanks for advice, had a good chat to roland tonight and thanks to that and you guys on here my mind is now at rest!

Looking forward to saturday, expect a review and a few pics