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Old Jun 19th, 2007, 11:30 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Perm (original)
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Your are wrong on TLC..... here is the copy of the TLC contract..... SEE POINT 5
TLC is invalid with a smaller pulley...... however many dealers chose to turn a blind eye....

5 Any form of tuning or performance enhancement that is not MINI approved invalidates the MINI tlc agreement.

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In this case then im going to take my Alta Air filter off then as this is the only MOD that is sticking in you face when you open the bonnet the rest i wouldnt be able to do myself anyway!

Yes you right about the pulleys 15% = Smalleset increase down to 19% Largest.
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Quote: Originally Posted by aid (original)
ok call me stupid if you want but i just want to clarify that the 15 % pulley produces the smallest power improvement and the 19% produces the largest

i.e 15% runs fine
17% runs ok but may require remap
19% needs remap
???????????????

p.s thank you very much for the help

Depends on who you talk too. Once you go past 15% you have to start worrying about heat management. This can actually cause a loss of performance rather than an increase. 17% is still fairly safe but most people have found that 19% is pointless. This is why 15 and 17 are the most common.

15% is a safe bet as it is the closest to the JCW (14.5 approx).
17% is a good bump but you may need some additional tweaking.
19% you will need to really tweak to get the performance where it should be.
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I have the GTT220+ kit (17% pulley).

I have no problems without a remap and my dealer still honors the TLC service plan; I did check beforehand though :-)

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Quote: Originally Posted by Rigsey (original)
I have the GTT220+ kit (17% pulley).

I have no problems without a remap and my dealer still honors the TLC service plan; I did check beforehand though :-)


That is the point, it will vary from dealer to dealer as does the pulley from car to car.
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ok change of plan as i dont want any problems and i aint taking any risks ill use a alta v2 15%

an ill have a word with my dealer about it today when i go back to pick it up (i put it in this morning to have a wheel repaired that i kirbed)
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Quote: Originally Posted by aid (original)
ok change of plan as i dont want any problems and i aint taking any risks ill use a alta v2 15%

an ill have a word with my dealer about it today when i go back to pick it up (i put it in this morning to have a wheel repaired that i kirbed)

I just want to make sure that you and everyone understand what I am saying. The 15% pulley is the least problematic as the 17% can introduce other needs. This does not mean that the 17% is bad.... It just means that there are other things that you might need to do to get it running perfect.
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yeah i totally understand you and what your saying and i thank you very much for your help

just need to put my plans into action now
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You can always go to a increased crank pulley to get a bit more juice if you want to boost up your 15% pulley anyhow. See how the car goes with the works motorsport airbox (this is the stripped out version of the JCW) and the 15% pulley....if its all good then start some other power mods and maybe a crank pulley is a possible choice...this could give you a similar effect from a 15+crank to a 17% anyhow.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original)
You can always go to a increased crank pulley to get a bit more juice if you want to boost up your 15% pulley anyhow. See how the car goes with the works motorsport airbox (this is the stripped out version of the JCW) and the 15% pulley....if its all good then start some other power mods and maybe a crank pulley is a possible choice...this could give you a similar effect from a 15+crank to a 17% anyhow.

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If you go with the Alta V2, you can just switch out the outer pulley and leave the hub on as they are exactly the same. This will make changing easier in the future.
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where do we get one of these jcw motorsport boxes or is it just the normal jcw box with the flap thing removed and a better filter?
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not sure now that JC garages does not exist...try speaking to the guys from JCW who set up thier own new business...can't remember the name of the company but someone will know it.

TBH the motorsport filter was a JCW with the flap removed and the electronics taken out. It essencially the same just that the cold air from the scuttle could be sucked in all the time instead of just above 4000rpm....its a bit noisier too because the hole is there all the time in the scuttle panel.
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ok so spoke to my dealer last night with relation to tlc warranty etc and there quite happy for me to put a reduced pulley on as long as when it comes to service time i provide the shorter sticker belt

they also have no probs with a induction kit or a re-route pipe woohoo
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Quote: Originally Posted by aid (original)
ok so spoke to my dealer last night with relation to tlc warranty etc and there quite happy for me to put a reduced pulley on as long as when it comes to service time i provide the shorter sticker belt

they also have no probs with a induction kit or a re-route pipe woohoo

If your dealer is ok with the parts fitted you should have a written letter and confirmation and have them sign/stamp it that you will still retain your TLC warranty and there are cases where the exact same dealer turn back on their own words and state that you should of have a written letter signed just to back yourself up if you happen to run into trouble with warranty issues.
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