Post Facelift R50 Gearbox...

[burns863]

Quick question...

Im looking to change my current MINI for a post facelift 1st Gen. Now I dont want another MINI with the Midland gearbox. I believe the Getrag box was put into production in 2004. So do all 04 plates have the Getrag? Or do some 04 plates have the Midland and some the Getrag, but all 54 plates and onwards have the Getrag?

If the getrag was put into production during the middle of the cycle of one plate it would be helpful if somebody knew the exact month so i could look for models built after then?

Just want to make sure I buy another Midland-Boxed-Heap, not ad much luck with mine

Thank you

Dan

[mad brummie]

Basically any facelift car will have the getrag look for the different bumpers and lights I think it kicked in in November 04

[Cooper Man]

I think you'll find that the MCS has had a Getrag box since it first went into production in 2003.

[mad brummie]

thats a good point, Dan you have the reference wrong! He means the R50 Cooper, Cooper Man

[jimmyt]

As MB states, the new gearbox came in with the facelift so they should all be on 54 plate or later. Thats not to say some un-reged post-facelift won't be regged as a 54. But if its got the revised bumpers/lights/clock in the speedo etc its got the new gearbox.
They will also have the revised grille with only 3 slats not 4, and the smooth surround.

They were available before November though, as mine was registered in October. When I went for a test drive back in August 04, I had to do so in the convertible as at that point the dealers were not allowing test drives with the old box-ed cars but didn't have any of the revised hatches in.

Another bonus is that you can get them in the superb BEP colour

[burns863]

Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original)

thats a good point, Dan you have the reference wrong! He means the R50 Cooper, Cooper Man

Aye thats what I meant. I really should pay more attention to my threads

Quote: Originally Posted by jimmyt (original)

As MB states, the new gearbox came in with the facelift so they should all be on 54 plate or later. Thats not to say some un-reged post-facelift won't be regged as a 54. But if its got the revised bumpers/lights/clock in the speedo etc its got the new gearbox.
They will also have the revised grille with only 3 slats not 4, and the smooth surround.

They were available before November though, as mine was registered in October. When I went for a test drive back in August 04, I had to do so in the convertible as at that point the dealers were not allowing test drives with the old box-ed cars but didn't have any of the revised hatches in.

Another bonus is that you can get them in the superb BEP colour

Thanks Jimmy. I know what I am looking fo now

[Gravity]

My 04 plate Cooper is post-facelift; it was built in August 04. So I guess keep a lookout for 04 plates too.

And I highly recommend BEP. Especially with white Vipers

[jimmyt]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gravity (original)

My 04 plate Cooper is post-facelift; it was built in August 04. So I guess keep a lookout for 04 plates too.

That must be one of the few registered in August on an 04. I'd have thought most would have been tempted to wait a few days/weeks for the much more desirable 54 plate at the start of September

Quote: Originally Posted by Gravity (original)

And I highly recommend BEP. Especially with white Vipers

Its a brilliant colour. It works extremely well with the white roof, wheels and mirrors. I'll be sorry to see mine go

[Cooper Man]

Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original)

thats a good point, Dan you have the reference wrong! He means the R50 Cooper, Cooper Man

I thought as much.

Mr Burns: Now that you've corrected your 1st post, it looks as though its me that hasn't got a clue what I'm on about! (again)

[minisoopercooper]

the face lift actually came out with the launch of the convertible in JULY 2004

[burns863]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooper Man (original)

I thought as much.

Mr Burns: Now that you've corrected your 1st post, it looks as though its me that hasn't got a clue what I'm on about! (again)

Haha. Yea... get your facts straight

Quote: Originally Posted by minisoopercooper (original)

the face lift actually came out with the launch of the convertible in JULY 2004

OK. So anything built after during or after July 2004 will have the Getrag gearbox and not the Midland?

[Paul]

July 2004, facelift MINIs all have the new boxes.

See here for more: What are first generation, second generation, r53, r56 etc?

[minicabrio]

Pauls guide above is spot on....

Safest way is to get yourself a convertible Dan, they all have the facelifted parts and the Getrag gearboxes - go on, ye know you want to

[jimmyt]

I think the road tax you'll pay on the post facelift cooper is a group higher than your current Cooper.

[minicabrio]

Quote: Originally Posted by jimmyt (original)

I think the road tax you'll pay on the post facelift cooper is a group higher than your current Cooper.

A whole £25 higher