30-70mph 3rd gear times - Page 10 - MINI2

Paul Webster · #**136** (**permalink**) Oct 27th, 2007, 09:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Cooooooperslad (original)

Paul, in the aid of science I think you should do my 30-70 time once we find my missing horsepower!

I think before and after test would be good, this is why I think its such a brillant idea, Al is proof in that its a good test to see if you have all the horsepower you think you should have.

Once we try a couple of stock cars and get a relationship between early and late gearboxes and dyno horsepower you'll be able to predict the torque a car has, it'll be the 2800-6800 test that what horsepower you have

Paul Webster · #**137** (**permalink**) Oct 27th, 2007, 10:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Whats the problem now?
What Im saying is ANY tuners own car (including me with my own GTT300T) 'may' perform marginally better than a customers car 'off the production line' . Also applys to new cars put forward by manufacturers for reveiw/testing. Thats why I tested Lees car rather than our own demo car.
If you & me are tweaking all the time testing things & adjusting things thats a good thing.

We've always used the stock ecu, we do use the afc to fine tune the fuel but we only see 4-6hp and usually its right at the very top of the rpm range. so its good for bragging but it probaly couldn't be measured et wise.

We did see a gain tweaking with the stock pulley with the janspeed and borla, but when we put the stock stuff back on; oem airfilter, ex manifold and cat back it gained horsepower

Wont Lees car be quicker due to it having the later g.box?? Do the 888 feel nice, are they the new soft ones??

Jaw_F430 · #**138** (**permalink**) Oct 27th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by gnatster (original)

Paul asked me the following via PM on NAM

How many miles have you done with the head now??

When are you next out on a track day??

Just over 16,000 miles since the RMW head was installed. I have head # 2

Next track day is Nov 17. Had to cancel this weekends outing since I damaged the splitter, bumper cover and brake ducts. Will take about 2 weeks to fix.

The IC will be changed before the next track date. Migrating from the M7 DFIC to a GP IC.

Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)

Thanks Gnatster.

So there you go James straight from the horses mouth, I forgot to ask him how many dynos his been on and how much whp it made, If I remember rightly he's been on 5 different dynos in 3 states and the results ranged in the 220-230whp.

The Mary head as far as I know hasn't as yet got any or a lot of miles on it but the valves springs and retainers come from the same manufacture.

I'm sure Roland will chime in about his cylinder head.

Cheers Paul and Gnatster

Are these heads available yet or are they still prototypes?

Just wondering what sort of price the head is?

Regards

James

gnatster · #**139** (**permalink**) Oct 28th, 2007, 05:56 AM

it has been 5 different dyno's in 2 different states.

Lowest was 221 in California on 85 degree day using 91 Octane fuel

All the rest were in Texas and were all grouped around 230 using 93 octane fuel.

The head is available. I have no idea on UK pricing.

roland2003 · #**140** (**permalink**) Oct 28th, 2007, 10:06 AM

No there realy hard and old actually. If he had the later gearing I would have managed 30-70 in second. When were ready Ill put up a new GTT300T performance test results for all sorts things. Not standing starts as thats too driver/ drag setup dependant..

Revolution Mini Works · #**141** (**permalink**) Oct 28th, 2007, 01:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Cheers Paul and Gnatster

Are these heads available yet or are they still prototypes?

Just wondering what sort of price the head is?

Regards

James

they have been shipped all over the world

Jaw_F430 · #**142** (**permalink**) Oct 28th, 2007, 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kumho Kid (original)

they have been shipped all over the world

Where do I get one from and how much then?

Can I import it myself as should be quite cheap if I buy it in US dollars

Regards

James

Paul Webster · #**143** (**permalink**) Oct 28th, 2007, 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

No there realy hard and old actually. If he had the later gearing I would have managed 30-70 in second. When were ready Ill put up a new GTT300T performance test results for all sorts things. Not standing starts as thats too driver/ drag setup dependant..

Its it to laggy in 3rd to do a good 30-70 then

Loui · #**144** (**permalink**) Oct 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaw_F430 (original)

Where do I get one from and how much then?

Can I import it myself as should be quite cheap if I buy it in US dollars

Regards

James

Jans head will be more expensive than any head in the UK. $2000 plus shipping.

Welcome to Revolution Mini

Its one of the ones im considering

badboyzbadboyz · #**145** (**permalink**) Oct 30th, 2007, 05:31 PM

Great thread, it nice to see a measurement of usable power.

I tried this in my Golf TDI to see how it compares.

Mk4 Golf TDI 130
185 bhp (approx after remap)
325 lb/ft (approx after remap)

1. 5.97
2. 6.12
3. 6.01
4. 5.87

Average: 5.99

Its not a true comparison (due to the difference in gear ratios etc) but I thought I would put the results up anyway.

Jaw_F430 · #**146** (**permalink**) Oct 31st, 2007, 10:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)

Hey Guys,

Please can people post up your 30-70mph times in 3rd gear with a basic spec/HP of your MINI. I'm very interested to see how everyone compares as this will test low end/mid range torque which is what we really use everyday instead of outright drag stripe HP. The idea is to read dead on 30mph and then floor it to 70mph.

These can easily be taken on any straight flat piece of national speed limit road with a stop watch and using the OBC read out. Please no slip roads as it can be dangerous and most of them either go up or down hill.

Mine was taken from the average of 4 runs rather than the fastest:

GTT 230+ with a couple of extra mods - 6.2seconds

Thanks

Move me up one mini-morgan

Cooper S:
1320autos : 5.56 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3202066
MINI-Morgan : 5.77 http://www.mini2.com/forum/3197590-post69.html
BigShow : 6.075 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3191861
Jaw_F430 : 6.05 http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3197886

Regards

James

kpgmini · #**147** (**permalink**) Nov 1st, 2007, 01:07 AM

turbo lag sucks!!

roland2003 · #**148** (**permalink**) Nov 1st, 2007, 10:27 AM

Hi kpg, yes IMHO that setup youve got judging by your RR printout on the ' I went to the dyno last light ' thread
is going to be seriously laggy on the road. I'll put up some spool up comparisons with our GTT300T conversions in the near future.
Have you tried 30 to 70 in third gear? -To be fair your power is moved up the rev range so your available power band suits second gear much better, and peak power will be good as long as theres enough exhaust gas in reserve to produce more boost.
Best Regards Roland GTT

kpgmini · #**149** (**permalink**) Nov 1st, 2007, 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

Hi kpg, yes IMHO that setup youve got judging by your RR printout on the ' I went to the dyno last light ' thread
is going to be seriously laggy on the road. I'll put up some spool up comparisons with our GTT300T conversions in the near future.
Have you tried 30 to 70 in third gear? -To be fair your power is moved up the rev range so your available power band suits second gear much better, and peak power will be good as long as theres enough exhaust gas in reserve to produce more boost.
Best Regards Roland GTT

yeah...3rd gear sucks at 30-70...im gonna try 2nd gear tonight...