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Old Nov 12th, 2007, 11:02 AM
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Congrats Roland on the 4.85, is this your car then? or Lees car??

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Old Nov 12th, 2007, 11:07 AM
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Old Nov 12th, 2007, 11:27 AM
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I'm probably like you and would rather use 2nd to do 30-70 but do you think you can improve these 3rd gear times at all.

It'll be intresting to see what a stock headed one will do.

I'm surprised Karl aka GTT270 or Snowie hasn't posted some times.

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This coming satruday will see my car, a 300 bhp Toyota Celica GT4 and a 310 bhp Nissan S14 doing battle on a desterted long and flat road in Milton Keynes to find the best time 30-70 in 3rd time using the racelogic performance box.

Paul, you're welcome to bring the 1320 car over for a go too, or anyone else for that matter as the performance box is probably the only way to get truely accurate figures.
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Old Nov 12th, 2007, 11:54 AM
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Sounds like fun to me, text us a time and a postcode.

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I'm surprised Karl aka GTT270 or Snowie hasn't posted some times.

Snowie's been away for a couple of weeks on the Italian Job so hopefully he'll get a chance to try it in the not to distant future
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I'll drop you a text Paul, be good to get the performancebox to work out fly and wheel bhp as well (see below), mine showed 219 bhp on your rollers and 215 bhp using the drag strip bhp calculator.

PerformanceBox can help you to measure the power developed by your car’s engine, either at the wheels or flywheel. Having set the vehicle weight, results are calculated from the measurements taken by the fast GPS engine to give you useful guidelines to the car’s brake horsepower or kilowatt output.

Because these calculations are made from the GPS data rather than accelerometers, your results are likely to be more consistent and accurate.

Results in BHP or KW
Measures acceleration to give instant power output at the wheels
Losses runs are used to calculate power output at the flywheel
Runs can be carried out in second gear at relatively low speeds
An effective tool for those wishing to evaluate tuning modifications

There are two parts to the testing process: the acceleration run, which gives you the power at the wheels minus the losses caused by tyre and air resistance. The second part of the test measures these losses and also estimates gearbox losses. The Power Mode is also an additional tool for car tuning, where access to a chassis dynamometer is not possible.
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I'm probably like you and would rather use 2nd to do 30-70 but do you think you can improve these 3rd gear times at all.

It'll be intresting to see what a stock headed one will do.

I'm surprised Karl aka GTT270 or Snowie hasn't posted some times.

2nd gear would be nice but that rules out alot of cars from taking part unless they have a high rev limit.
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Lees car.

What gearbox is Lee running? 05 facelift model?
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Yes it is, I think a really good M45 car could keep with it in the 3rd gear test but thats probably about all unless you have a blue bottle strapped in the car

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I managed a 30-70 time of 7.17 sec with a stopwatch. This was just 1 run though, so i will need to do a few more runs to make sure this time is correct.

My MCS is an 05 model, it has no engine mods, but i do have O.Z. Racing Ultraleggera 17" wheels on it but still use the stock tyre size of 205/45-17. The fuel tank was at least 3/4 full, tyre pressure around 33 psi and it was just me in the car. Air temp was around 10'C.

Was this a good time for a standard 05 MCS, or not ?.
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I managed a 30-70 time of 7.17 sec with a stopwatch. This was just 1 run though, so i will need to do a few more runs to make sure this time is correct.

My MCS is an 05 model, it has no engine mods, but i do have O.Z. Racing Ultraleggera 17" wheels on it but still use the stock tyre size of 205/45-17. The fuel tank was at least 3/4 full, tyre pressure around 33 psi and it was just me in the car. Air temp was around 10'C.

Was this a good time for a standard 05 MCS, or not ?.

If you look on page 1 you will see that you're nearly as quick as an 04 JCW 210 and Aberdeen Al but we know Al be quicker soon

Its nice to have a stock time for comparison, it also gives you something to evaluate each mod you make if it works or not.

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New 30-70 time off 5.4 secs in 3rd, this time was recorded on Big Shows magic box.

I'm totally amazed how well 4wd Celicas hook up in the rain unlike Minis

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Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)
New 30-70 time off 5.4 secs in 3rd, this time was recorded on Big Shows magic box.

I'm totally amazed how well 4wd Celicas hook up in the rain unlike Minis


Thats pretty impressive paul. Ive had one little go but feel the results on a stop watch are pretty pap. i managed 3 runs of 6.1 6.5 an 6.4 with the traction light having an fit but as i say i dont think it was very accurate tbh. Now i would like to have a go with big shows box of tricks, plus keeping at 30mph to begin with with a light weight fly wheel an crank pulley is interesting

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Mash the throttle at 20mph and time it between 30 and 70

Big Shows box of tricks does make it simple and easier than using a stop watch.

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