Not So Good Rolling Road Result - Page 5 - MINI Cooper Forum - MINI2 Mini Cooper Forums
Mini2.com Forum Header Mini2.com Forum Header
Go Back   MINI Cooper Forum - MINI2 Mini Cooper Forums > MINI Technical Forums > MINI Engine & Drivetrain Tuning > First Generation MINI Tuning

First Generation MINI Tuning
Find Sponsor products associated with this forum
Tuning the first generation MINI 2001 - 2006

Please Visit our Site Sponsors
Mini2.com is the premier BMW Mini Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #61 (permalink)  
Old Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:47 AM
MINI-Morgan's Avatar
MINI Obsessed...
Offline
Send a message via MSN to MINI-Morgan Send a message via Yahoo to MINI-Morgan
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southampton, Hants
Posts: 4,989
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View MINI-Morgan's Solid Black & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View MINI-Morgan's Classified Ads
But if it feels fast through sound then thats a bonus Its driving pleasure that counts more than anything else id say.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #62 (permalink)  
Old Nov 4th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Loui's Avatar
230whp an counting
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Loui
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Midlands
Posts: 3,056
Local Time: 10:54 PM
England Male View Loui's Solid Black & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View Loui's Classified Ads
Quote: Originally Posted by MINI-Morgan (original)
But if it feels fast through sound then thats a bonus Its driving pleasure that counts more than anything else id say.

Now that sounds a cop out

Reply With Quote
  #63 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 01:53 PM
MINI-Morgan's Avatar
MINI Obsessed...
Offline
Send a message via MSN to MINI-Morgan Send a message via Yahoo to MINI-Morgan
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southampton, Hants
Posts: 4,989
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View MINI-Morgan's Solid Black & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View MINI-Morgan's Classified Ads
Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original)
Now that sounds a cop out

! Cheeky!

Maybe.... mine sounds really fast but just lacking that little bit extra at the moment that puts it over the edge. Usually I find it when its -10 degrees outside and it is like a monster!
Reply With Quote
  #64 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Aberdeen Al's Avatar
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 619
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View Aberdeen Al's Classified Ads
Guys - been away the past few days and only just picked up the car this afternoon. Here are my "pre cyl. head" figures and my "post cyl. head" figures:

Corrected Power: 196.5 bhp
Engine Power: 198.6 bhp
Wheel Power: 140.7 bhp
Drag Power: 57.8 bhp
Max Power: @ 6475 rpm / 122.9 mph
Max Torque: 174 lb/ft @ 4555 rpm / 86.4 mph

Corrected Power: 221.4 bhp
Engine Power: 223.7 bhp
Wheel Power: 165 bhp
Drag Power: 58.8 bhp
Max Power: @ 6440 rpm / 117.9 mph
Max Torque: 181.0 lb/ft @ 6315 rpm / 115.7 mph

Once I've rigged up my scanner later I will post the pre & post "power curves"

Cheers,

Al

Vroooom Vroooom
Reply With Quote
  #65 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Loui's Avatar
230whp an counting
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Loui
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Midlands
Posts: 3,056
Local Time: 10:54 PM
England Male View Loui's Solid Black & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View Loui's Classified Ads
Humm dont know what to make of that, its seems to have shifted peak torque higher but on the other hand its improved peak power. But theres still got to be an issue there i would have expected more power than that???

Reply With Quote
  #66 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 07:15 PM
Paul@1320's Avatar
MINI2 Sponsor
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Beds Cambs Northants
Posts: 2,062
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom
I cant work out how 35rpm =5mph

First M45 Cooper S to run a 12 (12.96@105)
On Nitrous 11.16@123 0-100 7.1991
http://www.1320MINI.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #67 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Aberdeen Al's Avatar
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 619
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View Aberdeen Al's Classified Ads
Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original)
Humm dont know what to make of that, its seems to have shifted peak torque higher but on the other hand its improved peak power. But theres still got to be an issue there i would have expected more power than that???

I would have expected more power before the changes considering theoretically I should have been getting at least 220 bhp with my GTT conversion (minus re-map)!

Vroooom Vroooom
Reply With Quote
  #68 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 07:57 PM
sef's Avatar
sef
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: A dark Corner
Posts: 954
Local Time: 10:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View sef's Hyper Blue & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View sef's Classified Ads
I agree with Loui... You should be getting more power than that...
Reply With Quote
  #69 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Aberdeen Al's Avatar
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 619
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View Aberdeen Al's Classified Ads
Seemingly far too much fuel!

Can't think of anything else that would be causing the -30ish bhp!

Vroooom Vroooom
Reply With Quote
  #70 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 08:35 PM
Paul@1320's Avatar
MINI2 Sponsor
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Beds Cambs Northants
Posts: 2,062
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom
Have you got the airfuel on the dyno graph, don't forget you were in theory 30bhp down with the 380s.

First M45 Cooper S to run a 12 (12.96@105)
On Nitrous 11.16@123 0-100 7.1991
http://www.1320MINI.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #71 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 08:35 PM
alski's Avatar
dyno-mite, might not....
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: banbury
Posts: 1,037
Local Time: 10:54 PM
England Male View alski's Classified Ads
al, not sure if this helps, but running a GTT 220 for over a year now, + intercooler for last 6 months, i am sure i have had a progressive reduction in mpg over last few months, i have also noticed a fuel smell as well when pulling out of garage in morning, nothing too drastic,
on the plus side more burbles and pops as well which i had put down to the Milly, but i think on reflection more fuel is going thru [tesco 99 mostly] due a manifold upgrade shortly so might look into state of tune after that

carefree
Reply With Quote
  #72 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Aberdeen Al's Avatar
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 619
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View Aberdeen Al's Classified Ads
Quote: Originally Posted by 1320autos (original)
Have you got the airfuel on the dyno graph, don't forget you were in theory 30bhp down with the 380s.

Nope no A/F ratios on the graph although there were markings on my pistons - I'll attach a sketch of these when I scan my dyno results.

Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original)
al, not sure if this helps, but running a GTT 220 for over a year now, + intercooler for last 6 months, i am sure i have had a progressive reduction in mpg over last few months, i have also noticed a fuel smell as well when pulling out of garage in morning, nothing too drastic,
on the plus side more burbles and pops as well which i had put down to the Milly, but i think on reflection more fuel is going thru [tesco 99 mostly] due a manifold upgrade shortly so might look into state of tune after that

My power loss has been progessive too - my conversion is 9 x months old. My mpg has also been progressively reducing - currently only getting 21mpg. The smell of fuel is also very evident in the morning.

Vroooom Vroooom
Reply With Quote
  #73 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 09:42 PM
Aberdeen Al's Avatar
MINI2 Senior
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 619
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom Male View Aberdeen Al's Classified Ads
Rolling road results as promised - sorry for the poor quality - will try the scanner at work tomorow!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Piston.JPG
Views:	63
Size:	8.4 KB
ID:	139056   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pre Cylinder Head.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	73.7 KB
ID:	139061   Click image for larger version

Name:	Post Cylinder Head.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	74.5 KB
ID:	139062  

Vroooom Vroooom
Reply With Quote
  #74 (permalink)  
Old Nov 5th, 2007, 11:39 PM
Paul@1320's Avatar
MINI2 Sponsor
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Beds Cambs Northants
Posts: 2,062
Local Time: 11:54 PM
United Kingdom
Seems like you've lost some power below 4900 espically below 3000, nice gain above 6k.

First M45 Cooper S to run a 12 (12.96@105)
On Nitrous 11.16@123 0-100 7.1991
http://www.1320MINI.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #75 (permalink)  
Old Nov 6th, 2007, 03:54 AM
Mini2 Sponsor & Tuner
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 966
Local Time: 02:54 PM
United States
Paul... what do you think of this one?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	tn_MiniCorsadyno.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	62.4 KB
ID:	139064  
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply
Tags: ,



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rolling Road Ven0m First Generation MINI Tuning 32 Feb 25th, 2008 04:11 PM
Rolling Road AlexF2003 First Generation Works 14 Oct 11th, 2007 03:29 PM
Rolling road test MiniPetrolHead First Generation MINI One 1 Jan 12th, 2007 05:35 PM
Rolling Road James Haigh First Generation MINI Cooper S 3 Feb 28th, 2003 02:35 AM
Rolling road problem zoooooom General Discussion 12 Jan 16th, 2002 07:23 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:54 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2