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Old Apr 7th, 2008, 09:03 PM
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power increase

does anyone have an idea of how much power my 210 works mini has gained now that i have added the following-
gtt lighten +3% crank pulley
gtt / jcw hybrid air filter
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I would like an educated guess out of interest + my insurance company wants an approx figure.
i know i need a dyno to be sure but but an educated guess for now will have to do...
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15-20hp maybe? at a guess. Really depends if your 210 was 210 or not too.
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I was at 222hp with similar mods with my JCW:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...ml#post3371936

You will be very lucky getting 210hp out of a 210 JCW...mine was 192-198hp depending on the day (and the position of the moon?).

So I agree with MINI-Morgan as a ball park figure, though in my case the custom map made a fairly big impact.

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All agreed then.
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well theres one mod i can think of you can bolt on and you'll be at high 200's. A simple mod but not worth going there
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Depends on what you had to start with, this is where a before and after dyno is helpful. It's also a good indication of the condition of the vehicle before modding it.

Tell you insurance company that to the best of your knowledge assuming the car had no faults it started with a quoted 210 BHP and you can't be certain as to the power now but can give the details for investigation or ask them to advise you on a BHP test.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)
well theres one mod i can think of you can bolt on and you'll be at high 200's. A simple mod but not worth going there

but at what expense???????

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)
well theres one mod i can think of you can bolt on and you'll be at high 200's. A simple mod but not worth going there

Go faster stripes?
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100 shot of NOS hahaha
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100 shot of NOS hahaha


yup, or do as a mate of mine did recently. 2.0 Noxa xe with 100 shot of NOS, then drill the jets yourself, Ran a 12.8 but used an unusally high amount of NOS Still running too, no bang bangs yet
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Was it a white one Ant? I seem to remember some guys last year really happy that they just run a 12.

Nitrous is a bit like a Beetle you either luv it or hate it.

If you are technically minded and a diy person its proberly the best bang for the buck, One stock engine 100 shot 12.8 at 107.

Then it was

Superflex Bushes to stop the tramping in first
Nitrous Controller to control the power in 1st
Uprated clutch to handle the trq
A/F guage

Then 12.16 at 110 still on a stock engine

It would mostly see 10s A/F in 2nd 3 rd and 4th and it was bore washed a bit when we stripped it.

250 passes at 5 a run for nitrous
50 passes on Helix clutch 5 a run

! x stock engine when a bit of rubber hose blocked the fuel solenoid, Always wash your hoses out, it took a while for that one to emerge.

Our current nozzle placement took 4 hrs start to finish to mount the nozzle in the horn.

I must admit on the way to work I was thinking what is the ultimate power adder for a Mini, and each one has a negative.
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The biggest one being engine warranty, who pays if the engine goes bang. We would never supply or fit it for that one simple reason.
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Was it a white one Ant? I seem to remember some guys last year really happy that they just run a 12.

Nitrous is a bit like a Beetle you either luv it or hate it.

If you are technically minded and a diy person its proberly the best bang for the buck, One stock engine 100 shot 12.8 at 107.

Then it was

Superflex Bushes to stop the tramping in first
Nitrous Controller to control the power in 1st
Uprated clutch to handle the trq
A/F guage

Then 12.16 at 110 still on a stock engine

It would mostly see 10s A/F in 2nd 3 rd and 4th and it was bore washed a bit when we stripped it.

250 passes at 5 a run for nitrous
50 passes on Helix clutch 5 a run

! x stock engine when a bit of rubber hose blocked the fuel solenoid, Always wash your hoses out, it took a while for that one to emerge.

Our current nozzle placement took 4 hrs start to finish to mount the nozzle in the horn.

I must admit on the way to work I was thinking what is the ultimate power adder for a Mini, and each one has a negative.


it is a white yeah, but in the 1980's Rally colours and a set of white speedlines on it and roll cage, is a phase 1 too.

Does not have controller or anything is simple straigh shot .

My other mate used to have a 206 cc with a Longmans Race engine in it, used to rev to 9500rpm , that had a progressor kit using 100 jets. Used to be appalling on pull away but in gear it was amazing. It was 230bhp without the nos, but once all set up with the NOS, and that included the ability to set what gear it could be used in etc, with percentage against throttle and all of that. The controlling of it was unlimited. The controller could talk to his standalone engine management. Where as the Nova was just crude old fashioned NOS. The guy with the 206 used to get through so much NOS he ended up buying his own storage tank off ebay and then filled bottles for other people in the local area. but the costs seem really high now. Think when he first got his it worked out about 30 quid to fill a 11 lb bottle. now its closer to 60.
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