Performance testing - a compromise

[Paul@1320]

i lost a fellow competitor testing on the road because he wasnt wearing a crash helmet and his head rattled against the cage as he was going over and over.

[2 much]

Quote: Originally Posted by alski (original)

Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport (original)

Roland I admire what you've achieved but a 10K conversion is out of most people's league. Let get back to the supercharged conversions...................


no way go back to s/c many have spent a lot of money on s/c i did not bother i just looked at gaphs
that is my take on it feel free to disagree

lee

my take on it is a lot of people, have spent a lot of money at gtt on supercharged conversions
hope your not suggesting that we have all wasted our money
i don't think roland could run a business on just 3 customers only, and i am not up for playing my wallets bigger than yours, so wind your neck in, if turbo was the future all this talk would be in the r56 forum
that is only my opinion, so feel free to disagree

who said you have waisted your money?i wanted more power than the s/c could give me if that is crime then i am guilty as chareged.i spent the money and i am happy with what i got for the money.the turbo is not cheap its a lot more than the top spec s/c .but its a lot more car at the end of the day its up to you or anyone to decide if you to want spend the extra money or not .if not then how does that mean you have waisted your money on the s/c car.if i had allready spent money to tune the s/c to say 280 bhp i would not be in a rush to go down that route myself as you wrightly say you would need a big wallet..off now to wind my neck

[Ant FR]

i still honestly believe if you have to test then take it to the track ( one with corners) to test it. Thats how manufacturers test their cars now, in Germany a car is judged by its nordschliefe time not by its 0-60.

But i am still mostly of the camp, does it make you grin, if so job done, thats the only testing needed.

[NickG]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant FR (original)

But i am still mostly of the camp, does it make you grin, if so job done, that's the only testing needed.

Wow! exactly what MINIs and tuning is all about.

I like to read the new numbers, the performance figures, watch the youtube vids, listen to sound clips of exhausts that get posted on the forum and read about the new parts, it gives me a lot to think about: what if anything I want to do to my car next, but the willy waving / bickering / *****iness, and before unseen spitefulness that has been seen in the past months is now just a real drag. It's a real chore to look for the gems of info amongst all the posturing. pseudo-friendly digs (we're not stupid we no they are not friendly, smiley or not!)

Can we try and remember that it's each to their own, if what makes people grin is...

Max performance for minimum investment.
Wringing the most possible out of the cars.
designing and engineering quality components.
0-60, 0-130, 0-squillion, 50-150 etc.
BHP / Torque
How fast it goes round a track.
How fast it goes up a strip.
How safe it is for overtaking.
How good the ride is against the performance.
What noise it makes.
What noises it doesn't make.
How long it lasts.
How many MPG it does.
Helping other MINI drivers with any of the above.

..that you don't have to knock the other guy or gal to do any of the above, vendors I really don't think you help yourselves by scrutinising everything that gets posted by other vendors, the constant requests for proof, number evidence etc. I want to hear about how good YOUR OWN performance products/packages/solutions are not how bad the other guys are.

I have used GTT in the past, and had great service, I would recommend them and will use them again, the same with Lohen for parts. If 1320 were closer I'm sure I would have paid a visit by now. I don't personally see the need for such fervent brand loyalty. I look for value (quality/price), customer service and convenience and go where ever is best. We are lucky as MINI owners to have such good tuners to choose from.

If I was new to the MINI scene and only had the past few months as a snapshot of the tuners, I might think twice about who to use, but I'm not, and I genuinely believe that beneath the façade of ******** we have seen recently the tuners on here are in the business of putting grins on their customers faces.

Please can you remember that. Tomorrow I'll go to work in an office, to pay the bills, I doubt anything I do will put a grin on anyone's face, certainly nothing like the grin I had on the journey home after getting my pulley fitted.

You guys are in a great place doing what you love, please just remember that before you next post and put your passion into making us customers grin.

rant over, sorry about that had to get it off my chest.

[Paul@1320]

You're right Nick nothing better than seeing a big grin after aroad test with there new purchase or seeing new trq hp figires on the dyno.

Though I never seen someone so excited after having his front wishbone bushes as Batou, you would of thought he just had a 100bhp added.

Yup its defintley the best job in the world apart from A N Vendor constantly putting your acheivements down, but it goes with the terriority.

At leastt Lohen are happy because they gain loads of new customers

[Bhozar]

Maybe this will help you work out which is best


By the way, there is nothing wrong with JCW. I'm quite happy with my JCW/GTT/1320 component car!

I'm really not sure what all this competition is about. I'm a pretty competitive persion myself, but this is all going nowhere at the moment.

If you wouldnt say it to someone in real life, dont say it to someone in the internet. Treat others with the respect you feel you deserve, not what you feel they deserve.

[BigShow]

You're right Bhozar, all this c0ck waving is getting a bit much, plus I know Paul's c0ck is the biggest as I've taken a picture of it down at his workshop

[Longboard 2]

I'm with you all the way. No way I was ever going turbo. I am now over the moon with my 290whp Rotrex Mini. The kit should be around 6-7K US. Cheap and simple compared to going turbo. And it makes this power with just a top mount intercooler Gram. The best part is that it's not done yet. This week should interesting.

Longboard

Quote: Originally Posted by GRSmotorsport (original)

10 of the best would the the best competition HTTP://WWW.tot.co.UK/what-is/, they have 3 disciplines to do and points are added accordingly.

This 'private road' thing for testings is a joke and we all know it!!!!! Ok we're all to blame at times for speed I'm sure, but sooner all later someone is going to get hurt or loose their licence and none of use want that

Roland I admire what you've achieved but a 10K conversion is out of most people's league. Lets get back to the supercharged conversions...................

[D-MAN]

Quote: Originally Posted by Longboard 2 (original)

I'm with you all the way. No way I was ever going turbo. I am now over the moon with my 290whp Rotrex Mini. The kit should be around 6-7K US. Cheap and simple compared to going turbo. And it makes this power with just a top mount intercooler Gram. The best part is that it's not done yet. This week should interesting.

Longboard

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Longboard is that price just for the Rotrex supercharger (water pump, oil cooler etc...)
I assume at that hp/boost you need new pistons...anything else...larger injectors? Are these included in the kit?
Is it the C30 that Jan has adapted to the mini?