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Old Jun 28th, 2003, 10:03 AM
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Question superchip vs evotech???

i dyno'd my car in my country with dyno dynamics and got 146whp with intake, header, exhaust, ecu & pulley.

a standard mcs made 110whp on my dyno and i know that the numbers are low compared to you guys but this is how i intepret my results.

it's a 36whp gain with all my mods....thats 33% increase in whp.

what's the best % gain in whp from evotech with similar mods.

by reading another mcs owner's base run & evo tech run dyno results....whp jumps from 143whp (assuming this is base without intake) to 178whp ... that is a 33whp gain with his mods and thats about 25% gain in whp, correct me if i'm wrong.

i'm not trying to say who is better than who here but i just wanna make sure i don't spend another 700us dollars on something similiar.
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Old Jun 28th, 2003, 11:13 AM
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Which mod did he have (apart form the EVO Tech ECU mod)?
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Old Jun 28th, 2003, 11:52 AM
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intake, pulley & ecu
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Old Jun 28th, 2003, 03:34 PM
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if i may ask SMG in the post here.. which do you have Superchip or EVOTECH's. Im taking it.. its the Superchip but it does state it clearly.

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Old Jun 28th, 2003, 07:19 PM
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i have the superchip.
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I have talked to someone who has dynoed his MCS with both the Evotech and Superchips ecu. Other than the chip, the car was the exact same setup. Superchips produced about 8hp and the Evotech was closer to 22hp.

Personally, Im going to spend the cash and buy the Evotech upgrade.

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Old Jun 29th, 2003, 03:40 AM
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evotech - they sell a generic chip for mcs and they also have a chip specifically tuned for pulley'd cars

superchip - ditto to the above and i got mine from a UK dealer which is called ggr and mine is speifically tuned for pulley'd cars.

i talked to my supership dealer in my country and he can also raise my readline to 7300rpm but i'm not sure if i wanna push my supercharger to its limits yet.

anyway, the reason i started this thread is to prove that evotech chip are better than superchip in terms of % gain in whp. i really can't just use my whp to compare with others because we all use different dynos in different countries.

btw, i used to drive a E36 325 carbio and i bought the superchip upgrade as well......that sucked.
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I just rec'd this from powerchip......


I just realised that I forgot to tell you the differences between Powerchip GOLD, SILVER and BRONZE. Take a look at the information below which outlines the benefits of fitting Powerchip GOLD to your Mini.

The Powerchip is customised for your needs, and the new levels allow us to match a chip to suit a customers requirements. The new levels allow for almost all modified vehicles (exhaust, filter, cold air), and also standard vehicles. They can also be customised to suit either high or low octane fuel.

We have taken this approach to allow us to recommend the chip that is right for our customers car, based on a series of questions asked by one of our Power Consultants, the POWERCHIP is designed specifically for your car. We use express delivery for all Gold and Silver orders, which means the POWERCHIP is ready to be installed with a minimum of fuss, the very next working day.

The many advantages of the new Gold and Silver range are listed below.

Powerchip BRONZE
This chip is our entry-level product. Noticeable gains in power and torque can be had from the fitment of this chip. Works well with standard fuel. Our Bronze chip is comparable to other chips on the market, and is priced accordingly. The BRONZE Powerchip offers...

increased Power and Torque throughout the rev range.
smoother vehicle operation
faster acceleration
comparable to competitors chips
delivery by Australia Post

Powerchip SILVER
The SILVER is designed for those wishing to experience the customisation of the POWERCHIP GOLD, without having to be committed to using Premium Unleaded all the time. Our programmers will make changes for aftermarket products installed on the car, however the car can be run on standard fuel without problems. All of the benefits of Powerchip Silver are available for only an additional $50 more than Powerchip Bronze. The SILVER offers...

Increase Power and Torque throughout the rev range.
smoother vehicle operation
faster acceleration
Is customised to suit aftermarket products (air filter, exhaust etc.)
Raised rev limit (where possible)
Revised gearbox shift patterns / transmission changes (Automatic Commodore's only).
Rear window stickers
Dash badge with individual customer build number
Free Express TNT delivery door to door

Powerchip GOLD
The most powerful chip in our range. The GOLD POWERCHIP is Designed for enthusiasts with only performance in mind. The POWERCHIP is engineered with only the best quality Premium Unleaded Fuel available. If you want the ultimate chip in the world, go for the POWERCHIP GOLD. All of the benefits of Powerchip Gold are available for only an additional $50 more than Powerchip Silver Other advantages include...

larger increases in Power and Torque throughout the rev range.
smoother vehicle operation
significantly increased acceleration
the chip's ignition timing is specifically tuned to take advantage of high-octane fuel
Customised to suit aftermarket modifications (air filter, exhaust etc.)
Raised rev Limit (where possible)
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Yes, the standard Superchip ECU mod for the MCS is just 8 bhp.

I got the Superchip ECU developed for GGR to go with their pulley - gives +30 bhp. A few of us tried to get this software but Superchips guard it well - its only available if you get the GGR S200 Conversion.

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what is GGR?????

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what is GGR?????

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Max, was that 30HP that you mentioned the Superchips ECU alone or in conjunction with the pulley? Im not tossed back and forth between a pulley and Evotech, or trying the GGR conversion. The only difference is the programming of the ECU.

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i think the 30hp claim was based on the pulley + superchip, rite max?
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How much diff is that as compared to the Evo + pulley?

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that's what i wanna know and that's why i started this thread my friend.
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Just a point of curiosity to me, most chips raise the rpm limit by 1000 or so. If you look at the dyno graphs, most supercharged cars build power on a constant uptrend where most naturally aspirated engines reach a peak then decline. If you notice the MCS graphs, the chips don't add too much until after the stock chip clips the engine. Most of the gain occurs from redline-stock to redline-performance area.
Maybe the 8hp gain was at stock rpm redline and the 22hp gain was at new "high performance" redline. Just thought I'd muddy the waters a litle more.

Never before has so much went into so little and had so much fun!
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