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Old Jul 2nd, 2003, 08:07 PM
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Black Cooper BBR 220bhp conversion

Anyone got one of these yet ? This months EVO mag does a short write up on it and it sounds great. In their words better than the hartge kit & their own car as that so it can't be all bad. When I get a web link i'll post it here. If I get time tomorrow I'll scan the review and attach it.

It cost something like £1400 including the VAT.
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BMW BBR MINI Cooper S 220

For tuning companies, the arrival of the MINI Cooper S must have seemed like a gift from the gods. The combination of an easy-to-tweak supercharged engine and a customer base with both the money and, crucially, the enthusiasm for greater power has made the hot BMW baby the biggest tuning phenomenon since the Eighties' Ford Sierra Cosworth.

Each new conversion raises the stakes even higher, and the latest - the Brodie Brittain Racing MINI 220 - puts out a thumping 218bhp at 6,750rpm. The 51bhp power hike has been achieved by fitting a high-speed pulley on to the supercharger to make it spin faster, adjusting the boost and intercooling systems and then remapping the ECU. Torque has also shot up to 270Nm at 5,100rpm - 70Nm more than the standard S and a full 40Nm above that claimed for the official 'Works' kit.

So does all that extra on-paper go translate into a better driving experience? You bet it does. Find a stretch of open road, and the MINI 220 delivers about as many thrills as you could ask of a sub-£20k hot hatch.

The throttle response is noticeably sharper than in the factory-built car - although not quite as psychically connected as in the Works - and the six-speed box combines with the beefed- up power curve to deliver superb overtaking in the mid-range. If you're looking for manic top-end fizz, then you should go for a Cooper S Works or, better still, a Honda Civic Type R. But for real-world, point-to-point pace, few cars come close to the MINI 220.

At £1,522 all in, BBR's 'Phase One' conversion is £236 less than rival tuning firm Hartge's 210bhp upgrade. It's also under half what Mike Cooper's outfit charges for its official Works kit - and neither is as powerful as this version.

BBR, based in Brackley, Northamp-tonshire, will also sell you a quad pipe exhaust for £934. This produces a deeper note that crackles satisfyingly. In addition, a redesigned bonnet air inlet (£93) reduces charge temperatures for improved performance on hot days.

But perhaps the most impressive feature is the uprated suspension. New front wishbones with altered geometry, along with wider Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres at the front, has sharpened up the MINI's handling, providing greater front-end grip, more steering feel during turn-in and less understeer.

The traction control has also been altered to allow extra slip before it intervenes. The trade-off for this extra ability is a slightly firmer ride and a tendency to tramline on bumpy roads, but for keen drivers it's a must-have at £582.

As an unapproved conversion, the car doesn't benefit from BMW's fantastic five-year 'tlc' aftersales cover. But if you don't mind that, the MINI 220 is a bargain - especially if you receive the £500 discount being offered on the first 50 complete packages sold. Euan Sey
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what about specs:

0-60mph?
top speed?

Anyone know????

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0-60

5.5 seconds apparently
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BBR 275bhp cooper s end of 2003!!!!

check this link!!!!!!!!!!!!
go to the botom of the page

www.bbrgti.demon.co.uk/mini.htm

275bhp Cooper s are the serious you will cack your pants in that thing!!!!!!!!!!!!

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275bhp Cooper s are the serious you will cack your pants in that thing!!!!!!!!!!!!

With 275 through the fronts that's not the only skidmark you'll leave....

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0-60 more like mid 6's like everyone else.
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Anyone have an opinion on the revanped bonnet intake, seems like it could be well worthwhile for £79.

Wot Midlife crisis???
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Anyone have an opinion on the revanped bonnet intake, seems like it could be well worthwhile for £79.

IMHO I think that really spoils the look of the car
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With 275 through the fronts that's not the only skidmark you'll leave....


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I think it'll ruin the handling of the car.
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I can let you all know cause mine is booked in for the first week in September!!
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Can such a small car handle all that power going to the front wheels? Wont it adversely effect the handling?

Surely there comes a point where adding more power is actually dangerous.

Edit: Sorry, that's just me being boring. 275 does sound a tad bananas though.

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I recently test drove both the normal MCS and the MCS works, for the MCS was quick enough but it all depends on what ure used to i guess. I noticed some torque steer and mild drifting on the MCS works if i really hammered it.

I imagine the 275BHP BBR mod would be pretty mental...
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BBR can also fit an anti torque and under steer suspension kit too!! I think it does all depend on what you're used too, and I've had a history of modded cars, plus hubby is taking his 911 in at the same time for some fine tuning!!
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What happened to this thread? I was getting excited to hear about your experience with the 240BHP upgrade. I'm considering all the upgrade options for my MCS.

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