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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 05:03 PM
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Scotland 0-60 in 7.4 seconds!

Today I was out in my COOPER and I was trying out 0-60s with my friend. He used the stopwatch on his phone to work out the times. On the first run I got 7.4 seconds! That is the time quoted for the COOPER S! Ok I do have a Scorpion exhaust but surely that cannot make 1.8 seconds of a difference. I have 18" wheels so they would surely slow me down a tiny bit, so it would average out. Has anyone else tried 0-60s in their COOPER and if so what are your times, would love to know.
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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 05:17 PM
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I wouldn't rely on a stopwatch ion a phone for accurate times.. That accounts for the error.
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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 05:25 PM
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Calibrate speedo with a GPS

You also should at least calibrate your speedo and tach using a GPS. I would figure out the RPM your tach displays for a true 60 MPH in whichever gear you need to reach a true 60 MPH. And use a real stopwatch for actual timing. Better, use a G-tech or similar instrument that does not require user input. When I do this type of testing I always use a relatively easy start to avoid clutch wear, and increase consistancy (but it raises times).

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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 05:49 PM
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Tried this once myself, got 8 seconds. There is obviously a margin of error in phones/speedos/finger pressing start,stop. etc...


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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 06:09 PM
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Using a stopwatch my Works managed 0-60 mph in less than 5 s. True
I was kinda disappointed...

Not a valid method to measure acceleration.

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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 06:13 PM
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Im sure a stopwatch is very accurate if you do it about 10 times and then take the average.. I am not surprised with your cooper, chris, since coopers are way quicker off the start...
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The only true way is a visit to a proper drag strip - Santa Pod hold run what yer brung days, I was going to have a go some time, or you could try the British Mini showdown.

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how about find sum one with a std cooper s and test ure car against theirs?? that wud prove it

A phone stop watch is accurate enuff for a 0-60 test if u ask me it's jus getting it perfect

i find a countdown works best for the set off and then yer mate can jus watch the speedo on the mini an stop it at 60
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Why not go to Crail or Edzell and get a more accurate reading!!
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I think you will find that the times stated for the MCS are in kph; 0-100kph = 7.4 secs which you will find is 0-62mph = 7.4 secs.. I am quiet sure this is correct anyway....
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cooperchris
Today I was out in my COOPER and I was trying out 0-60s with my friend. He used the stopwatch on his phone to work out the times. On the first run I got 7.4 seconds! That is the time quoted for the COOPER S! Ok I do have a Scorpion exhaust but surely that cannot make 1.8 seconds of a difference. I have 18" wheels so they would surely slow me down a tiny bit, so it would average out. Has anyone else tried 0-60s in their COOPER and if so what are your times, would love to know.
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....not a chance - add 2 secs and you'll be nearer the mark.

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"add 2 seconds"- rubbish! maybe one second- bmw told me 9.2 and stats given are always lower than the truth, or higher depending on the way you look at it- e.g it says cooper's top speed is 124mph in the manual, and on the flat i can have 130mph, not that i have obviously cos thats illegal in England. haha
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Old Apr 29th, 2004, 07:57 AM
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the 130mph reading is probably a true 120-125mph reading on a GPS - more accurate. I have a cooper and initially it does feel a lot fast than the 9.1s - since my previous car quoated similar figure, so that was judging by the feel. But once the car gets above 6000revs, it gets kinda breathless and the gearing is a tad low in 1st/2nd.... so my conclusion in the end was that 8.5-9.0s is probably about right. The cooper gets off line very smartly and has good mid-range torque.
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Old Apr 29th, 2004, 11:23 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by jimmyxp
"add 2 seconds"- rubbish! maybe one second- bmw told me 9.2 and stats given are always lower than the truth, or higher depending on the way you look at it- e.g it says cooper's top speed is 124mph in the manual, and on the flat i can have 130mph, not that i have obviously cos thats illegal in England. haha

Autocar tested the Cooper using their accurate GPS timing at 9.4 secs (the manufacturers' figures are never pessimistic - it's not in their interests to be). Also a speedo reading of 130mph is always optimistic and as stated above is probably 10% out.

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I have a Tazzo VPC to
measure times and road hp, and my best 0-60 has been 8.95 sec (38F with
15" all seasons) and worst 9.75 sec (72F with 16"/SS-03's and a full tank).
I use a pretty tame take off, as I don't want to abuse the clutch&transmission.

Among other things, It also measures average and peak hp between 2 user set
mph settings (calculates speed by integrating acceleration rather than measuring
a tach signal). This should come in handy for before/after comparisons if I do any performance mods later.

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