It would also be nice if people could post the specs of their car, the tempurature (if known), what mods have been done, fuel levels etc, so we can try and get an idea of how things really compare to each other.
This isn't a competition, but just a place to compile some facts that others might find useful. No "that's BS" or "mines better than yours" type talk please!
This isn't a "banter" thread either, sorry to sound a bit blunt, but we can discuss this thread and methods etc. elsewhere!
Thank you!
Also, in addition to this thread for 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, Andy has his own page of 1/4 mile times he's been compiling at:
I attended the 2003 Showdown at the Shakespeare County Raceway. This was my first visit to such an event, a complete novice but I had a few runs and eventually posted this with Traction Control OFF: (plus 3/4 tank of Petrol BP Superplus)
I was contacted by IML337, an Aussie MINI2er, who ran a best time of 15.1 seconds in his Cooper S for the quarter mile at Sydney's Eastern Creek dragstrip today. I'll have to get him to post weather/fuel info etc. I can tell you his MCS has had NO engine modifications.
Good to put this data all in one place. Using a gtechpro, here's what I posted on another thread: -
Mine is a standard cooper with not even a panel filter : We were two-up (maybe 150 kg combined), half a tank of regular unleaded fuel, 16" alloys with heavy runflat tyres: -
First run was 9.17s (wheelspin)
then 9.14s (wheelspin again)
less revs needed we thinks ...
9.28s (bogged down D'uh!)
so again with 4,500 revs but more slowly off the clutch: -
8.88s thats better
then again : 8.69s : the best time we were able to record.
During one of the later runs (but I'm not sure which) we also recorded a standing quarter mile time of 16.92s at 84.2mph.
Finally we logged the 60-0 braking performance. The ABS worked overtime and stopped us in 156 feet. I have no idea how this compares to factory or improved data, anybody? (dry road, maybe 15 degrees centigrade)
The lesson learned was to monitor, modify technique, improve.
...
8.69s from a std cooper is quite reasonable I think
MC 5speed without sunroof and with 7holes at 40 deg F and a quarter tank gas
0-60mph - 8.95 sec
0-60 ft - 2.54 sec
with 16's at 70 deg F and a full tank
0-60 mph 9.64 sec
0-60 ft 2.65 sec
launches were on the mild side, don't want to
abuse the clutch or tranny
can also do avg hp between 2 speeds - remember, this counts air and rolling friction losses:
all these are in 2nd gear - average of several runs - input weight adjusted for differences in
gas tank fill and which wheels/tires on the car --only a couple hp less at 70 deg than 40deg:
15-30 mph- 33.5hp midpoint rpm is 2500
25-40 mph- 52 hp midpoint rpm is 3600
30-50 mph- 64 hp midpoint rpm is 4450
40-55 mph- 73 hp midpoint rpm is 5300
50-60 mph- 72 hp midpoint rpm is 6100
Mini Cooper S 2003
Mods: Kelleners Sport Enging-kit (Pulley+ECU, revlimit 7500rpm) Kelleners Sport Cat-back, Pipercross CAI
160kW / 248Nm dynoed
Dunlop Sport Maxx tires (215/40 17") Orginal S-lites
Temp: +7C and dry road
Tested with a Gtech Pro Competition
1/4 tank of gas, no bakseat, front seats switched to Cobra Suzukas
Measured with a G-Tech Pro Comp, this is my best run so far (out of six):
----------------------------------Conditions------------------------------------
Temperature: 40 degrees
Altitude: 6,000 ft. (1.800 mts.)
91 Octane gas (my DT ECU was set to run 93 octane minimum, but 91 is the only available in CO.)
Mods: Digi-Tec 210 hp Conversion + Madness Intake (Borla Race Exhaust not installed yet).
17" S-lites with run-flats
Half tank of gas
2,820lbs. total weight (Including myself, 180lbs)
Keep in mind that despite the cold temperature, loss of power at 6,000ft. is about 16-18%, 40 hp aprox.
My best friend brought here to Colorado his heavily modified Subaru WRX (dynoed at 431hp at the crank), and his best run was a dissapointing 13.6@102mph. (His best time is 12.7@109 at 2,000 ft.).
Hartge MCS with no other mods (at that time), fully loaded with options & and a 16 stone driver and 28 oC! hehe , cannot comment on timing gear but i ran at elvington and they had all the top notch equipment , that all i can say so i imagine its very accurate , kept running consecutive 15.5s runs , oh , also 18" breyton wheels , absolutley gutted! I assure you this had nothing to do with the driver b4 we even go into that , i wasnt happy with the Hartge conversion for a while , this just confirms my dissapointment , may have something to do with the weight / temp but very very poor none the less , i shall be doing some testing in the track car soon so i shall report on that too.
I was contacted by IML337, an Aussie MINI2er, who ran a best time of 15.1 seconds in his Cooper S for the quarter mile at Sydney's Eastern Creek dragstrip today. I'll have to get him to post weather/fuel info etc. I can tell you his MCS has had NO engine modifications.
03 MCS Tested with G-Tech Pro. Full interior 15% pully and Supertrapp exhaust. temp according to reading off tach. "edit" this is times i posted when i did the before and after tests. which were conduct at an old airport. upon which i gave no time for Heat soak to happen. http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29157&highlight=G-tech+pro
..........................................................outside
Stock...........supertrapps...S/C pully......temp 55f
ET.......15.594......15.056........14.620.......14.399
speed.88.69mph.....92.33.........97.82........98.96
0-60....7.079.......6.509.........6.111........5.868
60'.....2.476........2.433.........2.474........2.448
hp......111.7........124.7.........145.6........152.0
tq......112.6........131.1.........134.4........156.3
at drag strip same mods. "unable to find the slip but adj time per unoffical data base"
Temp 95 deg / quarter- 15.18 / G-tech showed 14.91 on same run.
Dynoed at race 154hp with no fan on the Intercooler
At Strip with Mods as shown in sig
Temp 86 deg / quarter- 14.81 / sorry forgot to bring the G-tech
R/T : .005
60' : 2.301
330: 6.241
1/8: 9.539 / 74.36
1000: 12.388
1/4: 14.816 / 92.76
just found my time slip.
One thing to note. At strip im doing Bracket racing Launches were at 2k with shifts at 6k.
I've posted the times before.. as i find where i did.. most likly in the "Did a little Drag racing " thread for the two strips... the G-Tech time are in the "Before and after mods" thread i did some time ago. I'll copy those time and edit them to my post.
the strip is not at Sea lvl and i dont know the ALT for the Strip its self. i'll go the VMP's (Virginia Motorsports Park) website and see if its posted there.
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Here's an interesting comparison. Last July, I ran a 14.745 @ 93.61 with my 15% pulley. Here it is plotted with the 14.783 @ 93.73 that I ran last night with the 19%.
...It would also be nice if people could post the specs of their car, the tempurature (if known), what mods have been done, fuel levels etc, so we can try and get an idea of how things really compare to each other.
This isn't a competition, but just a place to compile some facts that others might find useful. No "that's BS" or "mines better than yours" type talk please!
This isn't a "banter" thread either, sorry to sound a bit blunt, but we can discuss this thread and methods etc. elsewhere!
Done some fairly heavy "cleaning" of this thread. Sorry folks, but please chat elsewhere in this forum, and try to keep this thread "clean" with numbers only.
I used my mates gadget (forgoten the name of it now!) and out of 2 runs the best time i got was 8.8 seconds! not bad for a mini One with 18s. I was using optimax fuel and i had toyo proxes on. Need to borrow the gadget of my friend again and do some more runs including quarter mile. ill keep u posted!
interesting about the trap speed being comparatively low, as your 0-60ft time isn't exactly under the 2 second mark... Not something to do with having 15" rims? Most cars here do it on 16" or 17"...
Looking at the numbers I would have thought it would have been more like 97mph?
I didn't "launch" the car at the start, there was also a 20-25 mph crosswind/headwind. The car ran 92 mph stock (months before: no wind, 65 F~), but the ET was much slower. I was able to get the mph just above 89.5 with different shift points, but the ET was lower... need to find a night when there is no breeze and cooler temps to get the true numbers.
Mods to the car are listed in sig.
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