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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 06:21 PM
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there is a GP brochure on eBay, so does this mean they can be picked up in dealers now or is this a home made thing that someone is trying to sell?
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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 06:24 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey
there is a GP brochure on eBay, so does this mean they can be picked up in dealers now or is this a home made thing that someone is trying to sell?

I have heard they have one although I've not been to check for myself.
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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 06:25 PM
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Just seen it........@"Will be worth a small fortune one day"........right.
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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 06:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey
there is a GP brochure on eBay, so does this mean they can be picked up in dealers now or is this a home made thing that someone is trying to sell?

Brochures arrived at the dealer's last Saturday. Some very nice photo's, first time I've seen a good picture of the recaro's with the red stitching. Nothing new info wise that we don't already know.

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Just seen it........@"Will be worth a small fortune one day"........right.

Great I've got two.

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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 06:43 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by chrisandjax
Brochures arrived at the dealer's last Saturday. Some very nice photo's, first time I've seen a good picture of the recaro's with the red stitching. Nothing new info wise that we don't already know.

I better go pick a box up then if they are going to be worth so much
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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 08:29 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DinkaDonka
After seeing the car on 5th gear last night , albeit briefly , it is growing on me more and more , get some 18" anthracite OZ ultraleggeras of in lieu of those hideous wheels with a substantial drop in ride height it will look amazing.

I know modificatin wont be taken lightly by many but if i do take the plunge this car will become a project of mine to make it into something even more special and make it the 250/260 HP it should have been in the first place hmmmmmm

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I have to admit to considering it myself. I can fix the few visual issues that I dont like, I'd love to see it pack 240bhp (just right I think) and I'd put my own wheels on it (something like this below) in order to retain the original wheels in mint for resale, I'd like to put a decent set of Brembos on it, and I'd fit the JCW airducts to the false brake ducts. I'd not be afraid to track the car, perhaps even fit a roll cage (although those recaro seats arn't suitable for harnesses - another cok-up in my opinion).

Trouble is we're back into £30k territory and it would only be replacing something I've already got, but just a little more refind.

I'm thinking that the GP will be a sound investment if the new car does not create any kind of stir.


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Old Apr 11th, 2006, 09:47 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett
Yes, sort of. A good wing (or any thing that adds downforce), is sort of like adding weight to the car (the back of the car in the case of a rear wing), but in relation to speed (when it's needed). So if you go faster, and get more downforce, then in very rough terms, you're increasing "weight" at the rear, and this would effect consumption. I have no idea how much, but I expect very little in terms of the MINI.

Isn't there a difference between a Wing and a Spoiler?

The wing on an Exige actually produces up to 100 pounds of downforce vice none of the Elise allowing it to corner "faster".

The "spoiler" on Porsches that pop up at 75 MPH are true spoilers, meant to break up the air pattern so the rear end doesn't get light ... I do not believe they create any downforce.
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Old Apr 12th, 2006, 12:06 AM
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for those that missed 5th gear the other night, its repeated on channel 5 now
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has any one been on minid website and played about with the cooper s works with GP kit as it says its not on the .co.uk website you have to go .com then International its realy fun to play with

will pick up some Brochures on thursday at the reoperning of north ox dealer wonder if they will have one there hmmm


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is it just the GP or do some Mini not have a cubby underneath the drivers air vent???

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is it just the GP or do some Mini not have a cubby underneath the drivers air vent???

US spec MINIs have no cubby in the knee bolster.
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Old Apr 12th, 2006, 04:18 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by northandy
I am surprised to hear it, but I guess when you think of the essence of how ground effects work, using an undercar venturi to effectively pull the car onto the ground at high speed, if that was lost for whatever reason driving could become very interesting at those high speeds although the vision of an enzo becoming airboure is something I just cant get my head round....

I know its different but I remember a rear wing coming off an F1 car a few years back. on a straight the wing detached (after a shunt at the previous corner) and as soon as the wing came off the car lost control and spun off the track...

Happened to Kimi Raikonnen last year.
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Old Apr 12th, 2006, 04:22 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by chows4us
Isn't there a difference between a Wing and a Spoiler?

The wing on an Exige actually produces up to 100 pounds of downforce vice none of the Elise allowing it to corner "faster".

The "spoiler" on Porsches that pop up at 75 MPH are true spoilers, meant to break up the air pattern so the rear end doesn't get light ... I do not believe they create any downforce.

Generally speaking a spoiler is a body panel of whatever shape is determined to create the needed effect.
A wing is just that, and airfoil attached to the body through some means.

I'd like to have $5 for every "wing" I've seen that is obviously set up incorrectly.
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Old Apr 12th, 2006, 07:37 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by johnsocal
The lightwieght addition could just have a bunch of JCW stuff installed at the port (imagine a JCW's version of the MC40) like Carbon fiber mirrors, carbon fiber trunk trim, carbon fiber dash, carbon fiber hood scoop, carbon fiber strut brace, and etc. Also included could be JCW 18 inch wheels, JCW suspension and JCW brakes and maybe some custom leather sport seats that have JCW embroidered since the real JCW sports seats will never come here since MiniUSA does not want to reduce the MCS safety by taking the airbags out of the seats.

In all I doubt this will be a real stripped down lightwight racer but more a MCS with alot of carbon fiber trim and JCW badges since any significant change might require the MCS to get recertified and there is no way thats going to happen for just a few thousand special cars.

You almost nailed it on the head. Now, what are the numbers for Mega Millions?

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