MINI Cooper S with John Cooper Works G_P Tuning Kit

[Jim Ray]

My take on the horsepower is that it is totally due to the increased redline. Not surprising, since most of the car is just an assembly of currently available parts and options.

Configured the same car from MINIIUSA.com this morning, as close as I could, and still feel that the GP is a value. I am still pretty happy to be on the list. Or on the list to receive.

Good wife.

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Ray

My take on the horsepower is that it is totally due to the increased redline. Not surprising, since most of the car is just an assembly of currently available parts and options.

Configured the same car from MINIIUSA.com this morning, as close as I could, and still feel that the GP is a value. I am still pretty happy to be on the list. Or on the list to receive.

Good wife.

Oh for the money it can't be knocked.

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Ray

My take on the horsepower is that it is totally due to the increased redline. Not surprising, since most of the car is just an assembly of currently available parts and options.

I have not read that mentioned anywhere. That's new to me.

[Paul]

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Meaning?

[LMB]

Ok I've had a look and judging by the pic below the Rev limit has been raised slightly. What effect does that have?

[Paul]

Good explanation here:

http://www.itv-motoring.com/features/technical/636.asp

In short, a good "easy" way to get a better BHP figure on the MINI is to increase the rev limit.

[Fabio]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Good explanation here:

http://www.itv-motoring.com/features/technical/636.asp

In short, a good "easy" way to get a better BHP figure on the MINI is to increase the rev limit.

its a cheap way

[MINIAC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

I hope that doesn't mean the extra power mostly comes from an increased rev limit? Does it say where the max power is at?

I asked the same question earlier in the thread ...

http://www.mini2.com/forum/2291013-post1429.html

Horsepower is 160kW at 7100rpm.

Torque was originally quoted as 250Nm at 4600rpm.

[Paul]

So for all the pre-amble and talk of engine tuning.... they've raised the limiter?

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC

Torque was originally quoted as 250Nm at 4600rpm.

Where did you get that figure from Ron?

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Good explanation here:

http://www.itv-motoring.com/features/technical/636.asp

In short, a good "easy" way to get a better BHP figure on the MINI is to increase the rev limit.

What I don't get is if the Max torque remains at the same Revs as the Works Kit, how is raising the Rev Limit going to help?

[MINIAC]

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

Where did you get that figure from Ron?

I believe it's what was originally posted for the GP.


Edit ...

MINI USA is showing torque at 184ft-lb (250Nm) but with disclaimer



NOTE: Horsepower figure is "actual" not metric

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC

I believe it's what was originally posted for the GP.

It looks like they've changed it unless the GP brochure is wrong.

[LMB]

Press Release on JCW's website..

http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...%20GP%20Launch

maximum torque of 245 Nm

So basically this car has no more power than a 210 JCW. Any gains will only be down to the lower weight.