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I had a Z4 for a week not so long ago, can't comment on it "officially" as a review, but I much prefer the S. The Z4 was/is a GREAT cruising car. Nice to get the top down and roll around the streets in it, and if you give it some welly it's pretty good fun (although completely different to a MINI). The MINI is a point and squirt, fun as you like, corner munching bag of fun. The Z4 is a big stylish, comfortable cruising machine, with optional fun (but it's harder to have fun in a big car I find anyway, especially with more power, as you have to be driving at silly speeds to get the same sort of sensations).
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Quote: Originally Posted by Moris
Hello guys
in some way, I'm in the same position of Rhysie and need some advice:

- I followed all the "history" of the GP on Mini2 from january 2005
- I first saw the GP at its unvealing in Misano (Mini United) and liked it
- I then saw the GP in Geneva, and liked it much more
so I was almost convinced and spoke to my dealer to get one of his allocations.

BUT... I just realized that with about the same amount of money I could get a Z4 (I could have some discount on a Z4, nearly no discount on the GP), possibly a 2.5i or a 2.0i (my dealer thinks that the 2.0i is a better value for money...)

Honestly, I do like the Z4 from an aesthetic perspective, but I have never driven one, so I don't know anything about its behaviour on the road. What do you think about this?

I'm not concerned about top speed or 1 sec. more or less of acceleration, but about its driving pleasure and fun. Surely, I don't want to get a boring car Do you think that a Z4 (2.0 or 2.5, not 3.0) could be comparable to a GP (or to a well equipped MCS) or am I insane to think to replace a MINI with a Z4?

Decision, decision...

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I had a Z4 for a week not so long ago, can't comment on it "officially" as a review, but I much prefer the S. The Z4 was/is a GREAT cruising car. Nice to get the top down and roll around the streets in it, and if you give it some welly it's pretty good fun (although completely different to a MINI). The MINI is a point and squirt, fun as you like, corner munching bag of fun. The Z4 is a big stylish, comfortable cruising machine, with optional fun (but it's harder to have fun in a big car I find anyway, especially with more power, as you have to be driving at silly speeds to get the same sort of sensations).

Moris, Although I only had a test-drive in the 2.0 Z4 a week or so ago, I pretty much agree with Paul's comments It was sunny and fairly warm, and so the open-top motoring was cool, but the driving didn't really compare with the S

I've got an extended test-drive in a Z4M on Tuesday next week and will let you know how that goes
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Signed the papers yesterday, cancelled my order today.

Being charged the high side of full price for the Monterey auto show, including entry into the concourse where I would be presented with my new car didn't sit well with me. Requiring the new owners to foot all the expenses for a MINIUSA publicity stunt wasn't something I wanted to do. We were looking at using almost a month of vacation time plus the price of the car plus $7k for the tour and that did not make economic sense for me.

True, we could wait and take delivery in October at my local dealer, but after getting excited over the Monterey trip that was a let down. Besides, the turbos come out in February so I just cancelled my GP order.
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Signed the papers yesterday, cancelled my order today.

Being charged the high side of full price for the Monterey auto show, including entry into the concourse where I would be presented with my new car didn't sit well with me. Requiring the new owners to foot all the expenses for a MINIUSA publicity stunt wasn't something I wanted to do. We were looking at using almost a month of vacation time plus the price of the car plus $7k for the tour and that did not make economic sense for me.

True, we could wait and take delivery in October at my local dealer, but after getting excited over the Monterey trip that was a let down. Besides, the turbos come out in February so I just cancelled my GP order.



Could you not have one but not get one of the first ones, then not need to go on the publicity stunt?

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That wasn't an option Damo. In order to get one of the first ones, you had to go to either Monterey or Lime Rock and pay the fees.

It wouldn't have taken much to make me happy, but this just soured me on the whole idea of the GP.
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Honestly, I do like the Z4 from an aesthetic perspective, but I have never driven one, so I don't know anything about its behaviour on the road. What do you think about this?

I'm not concerned about top speed or 1 sec. more or less of acceleration, but about its driving pleasure and fun. Surely, I don't want to get a boring car Do you think that a Z4 (2.0 or 2.5, not 3.0) could be comparable to a GP (or to a well equipped MCS) or am I insane to think to replace a MINI with a Z4?

Decision, decision...

Hi Morris, not sure about the Z4, I guess it's the wierd creases on the doors and seemingly short rear end that gets me. Also the £1275 for five years servicing compared with the £500 mini deal is another consideration.
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I think this is the wrong forum to ask for opinions on a Z4 - although it should be remembered that the 3.0 litre model out performed the Boxster S at the track.

I think the Z4 coupe thats coming will be very well regarded. Big engine, good handeling, rear wheel drive. The only thing you have to remember is to ditch the runflats! now were have i heard that before.
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That wasn't an option Damo. In order to get one of the first ones, you had to go to either Monterey or Lime Rock and pay the fees.

It wouldn't have taken much to make me happy, but this just soured me on the whole idea of the GP.


I thought the car was for Jim, April...? What was his view on it all. The cost was a lot, but at the end of the day, you/he either wanted the GP, or didn't. You surely shouldn't have made this decison soley based on the fact that you couldnt have 'one of the first' as thats a bit pointless...
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I thought the car was for Jim, April...? What was his view on it all. The cost was a lot, but at the end of the day, you/he either wanted the GP, or didn't. You surely shouldn't have made this decison soley based on the fact that you couldnt have 'one of the first' as thats a bit pointless...

I can't wait to have one of the first, we all stylise our cars to make them look different, I think being one of the first to have a car which truly looks fab, a true pleasure and never a chore!!

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I can't wait to have one of the first, we all stylise our cars to make them look different, I think being one of the first to have a car which truly looks fab, a true pleasure and never a chore!!

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Got yourself one on order yet Rams?


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Don't worry Tony, I didn't take it away from Fuzzy. It was a joint decision, I was just the one who posted.

It was his decision in the end to wait for the turbo vice getting a later GP.
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Quote: Originally Posted by AprilWhine
Don't worry Tony, I didn't take it away from Fuzzy. It was a joint decision, I was just the one who posted.

It was his decision in the end to wait for the turbo vice getting a later GP.


Thats reassuring.

$2000 plus your other expenses is rediculous, and you should get the car as per allocation. However, i would have been surprised if you had got one of the first cars anyway, as you only very recently placed your order. I would have thought that at least half the cars would have been allocated before you placed your order... which would have put you nearer the back of the queue anyway surely...???
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No, my dealer told me they pick who gets the first car, and I was the one chosen. I was definitely in for going to Monterey but just couldn't see the time and money expense. As I posted in another thread, both Fuzzy and I were going to have to take almost a month of vacation time and pay a minimum of $7k for expenses. We could to the CA Dreamin run for that and have enough left over to do Cotswold.
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No, my dealer told me they pick who gets the first car, and I was the one chosen. I was definitely in for going to Monterey but just couldn't see the time and money expense. As I posted in another thread, both Fuzzy and I were going to have to take almost a month of vacation time and pay a minimum of $7k for expenses. We could to the CA Dreamin run for that and have enough left over to do Cotswold.

- yes, doing cotswold would be so much better!!!
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