MINI Cooper S with John Cooper Works G_P Tuning Kit

[Tonyt3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

are you selling stories and pics to them?

not selling them, but maybe I should have asked for cash to make it more beleiveable....?

[Juno]

Excuse please my translation - www.autoblog.it reports the following: -

"Bertone to construct for BMW the limited series of 2.000 Miniums Cooper S to highest performances: two single places, a motor from 225 horses and a price around the 30,000.

Bertone will receive the bodies machine "in.bianco" from the factory Miniums of Oxford, and will complete the assemblage to Grugliasco. The assignment has been entrusted to partial compensation of the stopped production of scooter the BMW C1: Bertone had predisposed the factory in order to construct 27,000 to the year, but BMW had not succeeded to more sell some than 10.000 to the year. The contract is an oxygen puff for Bertone, than it would otherwise not have had no car to produce to the next year (this year finishes the production of the cabrio Astra). "



Yes it's the same info as http://europe.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=56573 ...

Pete

[sirdavid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Juno

"The contract is an oxygen puff for Bertone. "

Beautiful. A far better translation than I could have attempted. I'm going to start using that...

I wonder what the equivalent is in Itaiano?

[AidenL]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tony*t3

Well I'll be buying next weeks Autoexpress just in case they have more 'inside information'....

[Juno]

Quote: Originally Posted by sirdavid

Beautiful. A far better translation than I could have attempted. I'm going to start using that...

I wonder what the equivalent is in Itaiano?

Thank Babelfish for the translation - 'tis even more beautiful in Italian, naturally : Il contratto è una boccata d'ossigeno per Bertone.

Pete

[Rakey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Juno

Excuse please my translation - www.autoblog.it reports the following: -

"Bertone to construct for BMW the limited series of 2.000 Miniums Cooper S to highest performances: two single places, a motor from 225 horses and a price around the 30,000.

Bertone will receive the bodies machine "in.bianco" from the factory Miniums of Oxford, and will complete the assemblage to Grugliasco. The assignment has been entrusted to partial compensation of the stopped production of scooter the BMW C1: Bertone had predisposed the factory in order to construct 27,000 to the year, but BMW had not succeeded to more sell some than 10.000 to the year. The contract is an oxygen puff for Bertone, than it would otherwise not have had no car to produce to the next year (this year finishes the production of the cabrio Astra). "



Yes it's the same info as http://europe.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=56573 ...

Pete

good translation, adds a bit more to what I thought and posted a few pages back as to why its being built where in Italy. Nothing to do with re-styling it in an Astra convertible or Streetka way

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

I'm still not convinced that its a convertible, thats not very lightweight

the main reason for outsourcing IMO is that there is the facility at Oxford, or the space to hand build these MINI's, which is how they will be built, not on a production line, and the reason for Bertone is as a sweetener to closing on a deal before the order book was produced.

Still believe this will be a tin top, I really wish it was some kind of convertible, but it just doesn't add up to make a lightweight convertible.

[Tonyt3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

good translation, adds a bit more to what I thought and posted a few pages back as to why its being built where in Italy. Nothing to do with re-styling it in an Astra convertible or Streetka way

Still cant make economic sense to ship a car and all its partss all the way to italy just to assemble it with out a couple of seats and some CF bits... (x2000 of course)

[Rakey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tony*t3

Still cant make economic sense to ship a car and all its partss all the way to italy just to assemble it with out a couple of seats and some CF bits... (x2000 of course)

someone posted in here earlier that they had a friend on the inside, and the sourcing of the parts was being done in Italy, my guess, they are experts in using Aluminum and trims, so get the experts to do it, and if another set of experts in say German are working on the engine and tuning, then its easy to ship those bits to a factory on the Continent

everyone is assuming its going to be JCW bits, but there are other tuning sources that could be used

[death2pixies]

I sent a fax of the europe.autonews article to my mini garage this morning to absolutely confirm that my deposit is on the correct car (i.e. the CSL), they had me down for the Turbo version so have now changed me to the 'CSL' . Out of the 9 people that have already paid their deposit at the garage only 2 (incl. me) have called to check the deposit is on the correct version.

I was also told that there are only 200 being made (I did say isnt it 2000 but she said nope). The garage then has to wait and see what their allocation will be - may end up being a lottery


Has anyone else heard anything back from their garage? Is everyone sure that the deposit they have been paid is against the correct car?

[MOTOR'N]

[quote=death2pixies]I
I was also told that there are only 200 being made (I did say isnt it 2000 but she said nope). The garage then has to wait and see what their allocation will be - may end up being a lottery [/QUOTE

WOW I sure hope that information is wrong.
200 worldwide does not make any sense

[Tonyt3]

They probably refer to total UK allocation, which, if its 200 from 2000, would make some sense.

To be sure, not all the production run will be coming to the UK.

[Tonyt3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tony*t3

They probably refer to total UK allocation, which, if its 200 from 2000, would make some sense.

To be sure, not all the production run will be coming to the UK.

Oh, and 2000 is the usual number produced if you are trying to meet a homologation target.

[MOTOR'N]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tony*t3

Oh, and 2000 is the usual number produced if you are trying to meet a homologation target.

Yes, makes good sense. Did not think of that till you mentioned it!

[sirdavid]

Hi death2pixies!

I was later than you getting my deposit in. By the time I contacted my local dealer yesterday, they knew exactly which model I was talking about, and were happy to confirm that the they're expecting it to go into production. My receipt arrived this morning confirming my deposit on a "Mini Cooper S CSL".

200 units, even just for the UK, doesn't sound much. I suppose much depends upon the final specs, and whether it's a hardcore track car, or suitable for everyday use? Of course, some people who've already placed deposits will drop off the waiting list, but if there're nine people who've already paid up at your particular dealership, then that could well mean a high number of deposits in total across the UK. My saleman tried to find out what their allocation will be, but unfortunately was unable to get an answer.

I know nothing about the automative industry! However, I would've thought that the UK is an important market for the Mini. Getting just 10% of the production run for this model seems low. Or is it?

David

[Paul]

Considering it wont be called the CSL and there's about 10 x that due for production, I'd take anything the dealer said with a pinch of salt. I get the feeling sometimes some dealers like to sound more informed than they are, nobody wants the public to think they know more than they do about the product they are paid to sell.

I have a very good relationship with my local dealer and I've not very often found them to know more about upcoming vehicles than I/we on MINI2 do, which they do find a little frustrating at times!