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Old Feb 23rd, 2006, 12:15 PM
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Just going to throw a thought in. I agree that the GP looks good value when compared to manually speccing up a Works MCS normally. However, £15,000 would buy you a nearly new Alfa 147 GTA which has 250bhp and fantastic sounding engine, styling (IMHO - can look a bit boy racer too though), a pretty reasonable chassis and it still has 4 seats. Now an Alfa's residuals and reliability have historically been pants and its not a Mini (and I am not advocating getting one either!) but think of what you can get for £7k less in terms of just value for money.

As you say with Alfa's.......residuals. Whatever you save when buying you loose when you sell. Plus from what I've read apart from it's power it doesn't have much else going to the car.
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As you say with Alfa's.......residuals. Whatever you save when buying you loose when you sell. Plus from what I've read apart from it's power it doesn't have much else going to the car.


and whats the point in 250bhp if you cant get it down on to the tarmac nicely....
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Here's a Gran Prix. Doesn't look much like a track car

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and whats the point in 250bhp if you cant get it down on to the tarmac nicely....

Not a lot I agree. The jury seems divided on the Alfa's ability to do that...but I just threw it in there for the small fast FWD comparison for a lot less money.
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Not a lot I agree. The jury seems divided on the Alfa's ability to do that...but I just threw it in there for the small fast FWD comparison for a lot less money.

New they are about the same price as the GP.
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Not a lot I agree. The jury seems divided on the Alfa's ability to do that...but I just threw it in there for the small fast FWD comparison for a lot less money.



If you can get past the badge, the New FOrd Focus ST looks like a superb bit of kit.... even in Orange...
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£22k will buy you a new WRX Impreza......
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Old Feb 23rd, 2006, 01:17 PM
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£22k will buy you a new WRX Impreza......

True.
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True.

They drive very similar to a std MCS, nice and grippy in the corners.....

I had a drive of one the other week, and some "other" machinery too......

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£22k will buy you a new WRX Impreza......



5 years time a WRX impreza will be worth 6k. A GP should be worth 10k at least given its rareity - bargain.

20 years time the WRX will be a fridge. The GP will be a collectors item.
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5 years time a WRX impreza will be worth 6k. A GP should be worth 10k at least given its rareity - bargain.

20 years time the WRX will be a fridge. The GP will be a collectors item.

So what about an ASBO.........we're talking VFM here......or are we?
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£22k will buy you a new WRX Impreza......

And that has about as much style as a very rotten banana that has appeared from an elephant's ****...

They are for people who seem to think hooning off a set of traffic lights in a black plastic tin is a good thing...if you like that far enough...
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Old Feb 23rd, 2006, 01:34 PM
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So what about an ASBO.........we're talking VFM here......or are we?

It'll keep its value for a very short time period then plummet I guess. Not restricted numbers like the RS. 2 years time they should be cheap second hand rockets. I would guess that engines good for easy tuning too...


I guess you could say "VFSEM" Value For Someone Elses Money
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Quote: Originally Posted by virage1
And that has about as much style as a very rotten banana that has appeared from an elephant's ****...

They are for people who seem to think hooning off a set of traffic lights in a black plastic tin is a good thing...if you like that far enough...

Have you driven one.......???

I though the comparisons that peeps were giving were for cars offering similar to what the GP will offer.....having owned 2 MCS'c and driven a WRX, my opinion was that the two were very similar to drive......
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