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Oct 24th, 2006, 11:55 AM
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| Mikey, I always found the Bazzoka self powered tubes to be of good quality, easy to fit and a good compliment to factory systems without going MAD  .Do / can you get this type or are we 100% for a custom boot build! I need one for my R32 and one for my caddy van... ...not decided for the GP yet! Last edited by The Doc; Oct 26th, 2006 at 12:00 PM.  |
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Nov 29th, 2006, 03:50 PM
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| Well I got me a pass side xenon headlamp - plugged it straight in and it works! Headlamp still does the up down bit upon activation and also moves up and down on the manual level switch! Easiest conversion ever! I just need to find a drivers side one now! Pics to follow! The Doc Drives - GP 1797 - Range Rover Sport  |
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Nov 29th, 2006, 04:48 PM
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| Exellent!!!!  This Is Great News; I have my eye on a set.....they are currently on eBay. (what's the most I should pay?/how much would they cost from a dealer?) The seller quotes they are a straight swap; but I thought he didn't know what he was on about!? I thought 'major re-wiring' was required. As said previously, what about the Auto-Levelling function? Washers? ..etc.. Are they pre-facelift/facelift? Sorry for all the questions but i'm considering getting this done myself......If the price is sensible... I would want them to be fully functional though. Thanks. mGP   |
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Nov 29th, 2006, 06:30 PM
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| I was also told by my dealer that they could not fit Xenon's from new ...... since then however, I have purchased four Osram Silverstar H7 bulbs (thanks mikeythemini) and only got around to try to fit them this PM. Thanks MGP for reminding me!  These are meant to give 50% more light when used as high beam and 25% on dipped. I would love to tell you how they perform but as usual my incompetence and ignorance meant I could not work out how to un clip the clips that hold the ex sisting bulbs in place!!!!  Any help appreciated! Also, it is my understanding that the beam throw is too low can anyone tell me how to adjust this?  It is for this reason that I married a woman with a toolkit .... it's only now I realise she doesn't do cars!!!!  GP 0904 |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 02:07 AM
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| There are angle sensors on the front and rear suspension to work with auto level on the Xenons. Since they won't be present on the non-Xenon I can't believe the headlights are auto levelling when The Doc plugged them in. I'd guess that the up/down "waggle" is simply part of the headlights "self test" and nothing to do with levelling. However, all this is assuming USA spec - as TD mentioned there is a manual levelling switch on English (European?) cars and apparenlty it's present with non-Xenons, so maybe the whole auto-levelling thing is different "over there"!? This might be good news for mGP but not for GoodFinder ... However, yesterday/tonight I've been shocked by how poor the non high beam lights are on the GP. Yesterday I had to stop, get out (in the pouring rain) and check that they were actually working. So I'd love to hear if the new bulbs improve things, salocin ? The manual describes how to change the headlight bulbs - it says: The headlamps are integrated into the engine compartment. 1. Gently pull the retaining wire of the headlamp cover and guide it outwards 2. Fold down the headlamp cover 3. Disconnect the cable connector from the bulb socket and pull out the bulb 4. Place the bulb holder on the lower edge of the mounting and press it in until it engages in the bulb socket 5. Reconnect the cable connector and install the headlamp cover again. Sounds easy  |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 02:21 AM
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| Changing the bulbs sounded easy to me, too, but I couldn't get the clip retaining ring whatever it was ultimately holding the stock bulbs in place to budge, so I had the dealer do the swap for me. The PIAA xtreme white H7 (both low beam and high beam) was an improvement, but it's still nothing like the xenons. |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 09:06 AM
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| To clarify the situaltion! "Headlamp still does the up down bit upon activation and also moves up and down on the manual level switch!" Yes they wiggle up and down at the beginning as a self-test - they are NOT fully dynamic levelling. The legislation (not law) on the dynamic beam levelling and headlamp washers in the UK only applies to car manufacturers not private individuals. Since I am not a car manufacturer I am well within my rights to retro fit the xenon headlamp units! I won't be connecting the washers tubes / jets as they don’t clean anything off the headlamps and are put on by the manufacturer as a token gesture - wipers on the headlamps work much better but still not a fantastic option either. I can adjust the headlamps my self from the original switch so no problems there! I can't wait for the second unit to arrive! The Doc Drives - GP 1797 - Range Rover Sport |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 09:15 AM
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| MGP read this... You asked... Q. This Is Great News; I have my eye on a set.....they are currently on eBay. (what's the most I should pay?/how much would they cost from a dealer?) A. Dont know BUT I am the highest bidder at the mo on Item number: 320054444996! Q. The seller quotes they are a straight swap; but I thought he didn't know what he was on about!? A. No, he is correct but bear in mind the point raised above re lamp washers and leveling Q. I thought 'major re-wiring' was required. As said previously, what about the Auto-Levelling function? Washers? ..etc.. A. See above! Q. Are they pre-facelift/facelift? A. Facelift Q. Sorry for all the questions but i'm considering getting this done myself......If the price is sensible... A. OK Q. I would want them to be fully functional though. A. Could be possible but I wont be doing it! The Doc Drives - GP 1797 - Range Rover Sport |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 10:51 AM
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| Thank's for claryfying that, I know the difference between Manual Height Adjustment (I have the switch in my car ) and Auto-Levelling; that's why I speciffically asked about 'auto leveling' as I thought this was a UK legal-requirement/possible MOT failure if spotted (xenon's of course).But it seems you may have found a 'loophole' in the legislation! "major-rewiring" were the word's of the dealer- not me, If it was just a case of un-plugging the old-units and replacing them with new ones i'm sure it would be a nice little money spinner for them, but so far no dealer want's to take this on (won't stop me asking again though ) ....so perhaps they know something we/you don't.......(I was told they run on a different voltage to standard halogens etc; I just don't want them to damage the electrics or anything, or else i'll be deep in the.....) Good Luck Though..............still looking forward to the pics. |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 11:27 AM
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| Yes, they run on a different voltage to start them then but all of the "voltage bits" are built into the start / ballast on the headlamp. Once running they use far less wattage -35w to be exact at 12v - a lot less a load than the normal headlamps The Doc Drives - GP 1797 - Range Rover Sport |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 12:57 PM
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| On the GP the headlights are integrated into the bonnet lid, as per all old gen MCS, still 1, 2 & 3 above are as you say easy .... nothing about how to remove the clips from the exsisting bulb though see photo below. We are talking H7 Osram Silverstar ( from mikeythemini) here remember, they are reportedly much brighter. It would be nice not to have to visit the dealer for something so 'simple'! You had the same problem I have now though, how to remove those darned retaining clips!! Does anyone know how to alter the beam height beyond the settings allowed by the cockpit rotating switch??? I understand there is an adjustment point on the headlight unit? Once fitted, with your help hopefully, I will be able to report on the effectiveness of the Osram units! GP 0904 |
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Nov 30th, 2006, 01:12 PM
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| Take hold of the connector pins & give the bulb a quick wiggle while pulling it will just pop out - its that easy  NewMINIStuff.com |
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