How quick is the GP 0-60?

[GoFaStEr]

Trying to decide if to get a GP to replace my standard MCS, i have 4 questions if anyone can please assist me...


How quick is the GP 0-60 mph?
What is the average fuel consumption in real world terms?
Do all standard GP's produce 218 bhp or have some been dyno'd at more?
Can rear seats be installed at a later time or is everything in the back different now?

Thanks to all who respond

[Keano]

How quick is the GP 0-60 mph? Officially 6.5 seconds (0-62 though)
What is the average fuel consumption in real world terms? My JCW (not GP) gets about 30mpg but I understand the GP is a little worse - it depends how you drive it though obviously.
Do all standard GP's produce 218 bhp or have some been dyno'd at more? A good thing about the GP is that they tend to make their 218 unlike the 210 JCWs which tend to be a little lower ~200. So generally the 218 is a good base
Can rear seats be installed at a later time or is everything in the back different now? Why would you do this? If you need the seats just get a JCW. You can always remove the seats in the JCW whenever you fancy it and it would be alot cheaper than trying to install seats into a GP

Hope this helps.

[MACKIT]

How quick is the GP 0-60 mph?

The manufacturers claimed figures are around 6.5 but i have read reports that have edged nearer 6.3.

What is the average fuel consumption in real world terms?

I used to get 28mpg in mine which was mixed driving but mainly around town.

Do all standard GP's produce 218 bhp or have some been dyno'd at more?

I think they tend to vary. The JCW variants tend to push out nearer 195bhp rather than the claimed 210bhp. I think the GP will be somewhat similar, so don't be surprised to see figures betwen 200 and 218, standard car.

Can rear seats be installed at a later time or is everything in the back different now?

There is a rear seat delete kit for other Minis but unsure if you can fit seats into a GP. However, please don't install seats in the rear of a GP!!! Defeats the purpose.

[MACKIT]

Almost at the same time there, Keano!!

[Keano]

Quote: Originally Posted by MACKIT (original)

Almost at the same time there, Keano!!

Indeed Basically the same info too- defo dont put seats in the back of the GP!!

Although from my experience the power output of the GP is stronger than the JCW in terms of actually hitting its numbers...

[MACKIT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Keano (original)

Although from my experience the power output of the GP is stronger than the JCW in terms of actually hitting its numbers...

I'm sure it is and i can attest to that in regards to the one i owned. It certainly felt like it had everyone of the 218bhps!!!

Having said that....my subsequent JCW did not feel much different except for the last 1000rpm or so where the GP has that extra grunt. The GP also seemed to be more consistent througout the year due to the larger intercooler.

[Snowie]

The problem with 0 to 60 is getting the power down - stock is 6.5

BHP - 215 is what the manual says. Idependent dyno on GP #1657 gave 202 BHP before mods now it is at 260 BHP. I have known some GP's to be dynoed at 225 BHP but I also know the dyno used

Fuel consumption - both cars are driven fairly hard and I log every drop of fuel that they drink so the figures below are accurate.
GP # 1657 19,593 Miles average MPG = 26.12 from new. This car is running 260 BHP
GP #0881 16,654 KM avaerage MPG = 26.41from new. This car has JCW 225 conversion and spends most of it's time in nice and hot Italy as my daily drive.

Rear seats
It is possible because someone has reported on here that it has been done (in the US I think).
BUT all of the mountings are not in the car, you will have to get the mounting brackets and weld them into the chasis.
Why do it, would be my question.

[howsoonisnow1985]

1) Just downloaded my Dynolicious, it only rates 0-60 here in the US. I will let my friend George who only weighs 129lbs after an all-you-can-eat buffet try the 0-60 on my car. (I'm 260)

2) Average:22-26mpg, hypermiling:29-35mpg (not a good hypermiler), Track Day:9-16mgp

3) Mine dynod at 205.14 at the wheels which is pretty high for stocker only had ITG filter with JCM mod and Redline Race Oil 30WT(very thin oil). MINI rates HP at the crank, so 10% to 30% loss is expected at the wheel on dyno, in my case only 7-8% loss. RMW got me 216.16.

4) Not easy but you can, with deep pockets and a some welding skillz.
GP does not come with the mounting points nor any belt assemblies, and need to get rid red GP panels to mount seats.

09 R56 JCW has better gas mileage than R53 JCW or GP AND it has back seats, with just a tune, good oil, and non-runflats tires it will beat GP's 0-60 and Out Dyno the GP...blindfolded! 09 JCW is the car you are looking for!!

[OJM]

If you're looking to keep the rear seats, or have them so you can take them out / put them back in when needed, you'd best off looking at a standard R53 MCS (facelift if possible), and look into 1320 for tuning it to the bhp you want:

MINI Tuning - Mini Torque

For example, they have a step by step to 280bhp (I think) - cost, fitted, is under £3900. Take into account the price of a GP that runs at 215bhp, you'd be quids in getting an R53 MCS and upgrading to the full blown 280bhp, and have a couple of grand to spend on looks (even a GP bodykit!).

[Birdog]

I got 35 MPG on a long road trip, cruise control

[GoFaStEr]

Thanks guys, your responses have been really helpful
Not that it really matters but will it do 60 or above in 2nd gear?
My R56 MCS doesnt quite, think it gets about 57 before i have to go into 3rd

[Keano]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoFaStEr (original)

Thanks guys, your responses have been really helpful
Not that it really matters but will it do 60 or above in 2nd gear?
My R56 MCS doesnt quite, think it gets about 57 before i have to go into 3rd

As I understand it the prefacelift 6spd 'box can make it to 60 in 2nd but the facelift 'box (the one in the GP) you will have to change - but Im sure someone can confirm (it may be slightly different for the GP as it has the slightly higher redline compared with other minis with the facelift 'box...)

[Anthony_h]

My 03 mcs just hits 70 as it hits the redline in 2nd gear according to the clock

[cooper1019]

Quote: Originally Posted by Anthony_h (original)

My 03 mcs just hits 70 as it hits the redline in 2nd gear according to the clock

I had an 04 mcs and it would touch 68 mph in 2nd gear,then i had the works 210 conversion done,and the figure was just the same but got there a bit quicker to 68mph. i now have a GP and the mph in 2nd gear is really close to 70 mph maybe 69 but not much in it,the GP feels a lot quicker than my 210 works from standstill and all through the rev range,possibly because its lighter than my works 210 that i had ,and a lot more fun to drive.

[MINIAC]

Any 1st Gen MCS can do over 60 MPH in second gear. At the same RPM a pre-facelift MCS will be traveling faster ... 5 MPH faster at 6750 in second gear.

Source: FAQ: What is the top speed in each gear?