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COOPERation · Jul 25th, 2002, 04:29 PM

Having been the proud owner of an MCS for a week now, I have one suggestion for future designs of the MINI...

Lower the roofline a bit!

I'm 5'10" tall and have at least 6" of headroom in the car with the seat at my comfortable setting.

I began noticing that the MINI, when viewed head-on from a distance, looked a bit tall or possibly top-heavy.

Don't get me wrong, I love everything about the car, but I feel that it would be more true to the classic Mini if you could see the entire Union Jack at any perspective.

This sample has about 2 inches lopped off.

COOPERation · Jul 26th, 2002, 07:43 AM

Sorry, still playing in Photoshop.

The Evolution of the MINI?

BruceK · Jul 26th, 2002, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
Sorry, still playing in Photoshop.

The Evolution of the MINI?

Evolution or devolution?

The last image on the right above is starting to look a lot like a classic Mini.

(Which is really cool by me!

)

COOPERation · Jul 26th, 2002, 01:38 PM

Evolution or Devolution...it's all in your personal perspective. Read the original thread above...

here's another thought:

I followed a Z3 coupe one day and from the rear, straight-on, that is close to the height that would be more accurate to the original Mini. Just a thought...check it out.

smiffy · Jul 26th, 2002, 05:01 PM

That last MINI looks well cool

I can just see it stripped out with a roll cage & NOS

Marts · Jul 26th, 2002, 05:25 PM

I can just about see the green light at traffic lights,,,,,,

drop the roof any lower....

lightbody · Jul 26th, 2002, 06:46 PM

I thought the same thing the other day while looking up at the tons of unused headroom above my head...

paddy · Jul 26th, 2002, 07:41 PM

While lowering the roof would look great, I am happy just the way it is now. I'm 6'4" and those 2" make a world of difference. The MINI is the first new/small car that I have been able to drive and not feel like I needed to use a shoe horn to get into the car.

Basil · Jul 27th, 2002, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
Sorry, still playing in Photoshop.

The Evolution of the MINI?

I LIKE !!

Good work

AER · Jul 31st, 2002, 08:48 AM

looks a bit like the original idea for the MiniSprint (lowered roofline etc)
Perhaps someone will resurect Rob Walkers ideas from the original MiniSprint from the mid 60's, and apply it to the latest offering.
It'd be interesting to see what it'd look like from the front, as you don't want it to look too squat (as if it had been troden on).

M3NTAL Kev · Aug 1st, 2002, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
Having been the proud owner of an MCS for a week now, I have one suggestion for future designs of the MINI...

Lower the roofline a bit!

I'm 5'10" tall and have at least 6" of headroom in the car with the seat at my comfortable setting.

I began noticing that the MINI, when viewed head-on from a distance, looked a bit tall or possibly top-heavy.

Don't get me wrong, I love everything about the car, but I feel that it would be more true to the classic Mini if you could see the entire Union Jack at any perspective.

This sample has about 2 inches lopped off.

Well... having only sat in my friends MCS briefly, I can safely say that the roofline is perfect (I'm also 5'10") if you need to wear a helmet in the car (which my buddy and I will likely need to do

).

Colorado "S" · Aug 3rd, 2002, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
Sorry, still playing in Photoshop.

The Evolution of the MINI?
http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...&postid=122633

Oh, that leaves me wanting H&R coilovers in a bad way

Basil · Aug 4th, 2002, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
Sorry, still playing in Photoshop.

The Evolution of the MINI?

Do you have a bigger shot of the devolved MINI ?

COOPERation · Aug 4th, 2002, 07:46 AM

Sorry Basil...but because of the size limitations here, I downsized it and did not save it in it's original size.
I'll redo it as soon as possible.

PS: Thanks for the larger photo tip on your "New Wallpaper" thread.

Cape Cod MINI · Aug 4th, 2002, 08:39 AM

Chopped and lowered! Like an old American street rod.
Now you only need to "french" the head and tail lights

COOPERation · Aug 6th, 2002, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
Do you have a bigger shot of the devolved MINI ?

Here ya go!

simonjessop · Aug 7th, 2002, 09:15 AM

Hi,

I'm currently working on a dropped roof, and shortened MINI. I've found if you drop the roof, by anything from 2 - 5 inches, you get this long wheel based MINI which looks a bit pants.

I've read of people talking about an "M-MINI", which should damn well be called the "M-COOPER" (my opinion!!!), so as per my previos post am designing one as we speak.

I've dropped the roof down a fair few inches, and also shortened it a bit. All will be revealed on Friday.

Simon.

COOPERation · Aug 7th, 2002, 02:45 PM

I'll look forward to it...when you say that you're working on this, are you working on a design for one or are you actually cutting a car?

I have chopped the roof pillars on this one plus I chopped about three inches on the body height and chopped it twice lengthwise at the middle of the rear side window and the front side window. Then I added to the bottom of the front spoiler and the bottom panel between the front and rear wheel.

Good Luck!

simonjessop · Aug 7th, 2002, 05:40 PM

Its a design rather than an actualy trim and cut. I'm about to order my cooper and there is nooooo way i'm cutting it at all. Its really cool with the latest graphics programs to see what different sizes the MINI looks good in.

When i was a member of the SMOC, John (Mini Shortie owner), brought me back from Mini 40 at Silverstone. You would not believe the looks we got on the Motorway on the way back it was brilliant. I liked the idea of his shortened Mini, but long term, i don't think i could do it myself.

So, designed "M-Cooper" is due Friday.

Its cool.

BMW take note.

BTW, saw this great number plate on a 3-series today:

"OK 02 BMW"

Sweeeeeeet.

Simon

COOPERation · Aug 7th, 2002, 05:47 PM

Very cool, Simon...I look forward to seeing your M-Cooper.

In the meantime, here is the above "devo" side-by-side with the actual car for comparison.

Jul 25th, 2002, 04:29 PM	#1
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	Lower the Lid! Having been the proud owner of an MCS for a week now, I have one suggestion for future designs of the MINI... Lower the roofline a bit! I'm 5'10" tall and have at least 6" of headroom in the car with the seat at my comfortable setting. I began noticing that the MINI, when viewed head-on from a distance, looked a bit tall or possibly top-heavy. Don't get me wrong, I love everything about the car, but I feel that it would be more true to the classic Mini if you could see the entire Union Jack at any perspective. This sample has about 2 inches lopped off. Attached Thumbnails

Jul 26th, 2002, 07:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	Sorry, still playing in Photoshop. The Evolution of the MINI? Attached Thumbnails

Jul 26th, 2002, 12:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 06:43 AM Posts: 3,759 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation Sorry, still playing in Photoshop. The Evolution of the MINI? Evolution or devolution? The last image on the right above is starting to look a lot like a classic Mini. (Which is really cool by me! ) + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jul 26th, 2002, 05:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
smiffy MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Here Local Time: 12:43 PM Posts: 5,778 Offline	That last MINI looks well cool I can just see it stripped out with a roll cage & NOS S for Smiffy "Kids in the front seat cause accidents, accidents in the backseat cause kids!"

Jul 26th, 2002, 06:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
lightbody MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Local Time: 01:43 PM Posts: 897 Offline	I thought the same thing the other day while looking up at the tons of unused headroom above my head... Rob Lightbody - http://www.roblightbody.com 2004 Red/Black Cooper replaced a 2001 BRG/White Cooper

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Jul 26th, 2002, 01:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	Evolution or Devolution...it's all in your personal perspective. Read the original thread above... here's another thought: I followed a Z3 coupe one day and from the rear, straight-on, that is close to the height that would be more accurate to the original Mini. Just a thought...check it out.

Jul 26th, 2002, 05:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Marts MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: just moving to Great Local Time: 01:43 PM Posts: 516 Offline	I can just about see the green light at traffic lights,,,,,, drop the roof any lower....

Jul 26th, 2002, 07:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
paddy Anyone seen MP lately??? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Olney, MD Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,126 Offline	Lower Roof??? While lowering the roof would look great, I am happy just the way it is now. I'm 6'4" and those 2" make a world of difference. The MINI is the first new/small car that I have been able to drive and not feel like I needed to use a shoe horn to get into the car. "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail..." -- President George W. Bush - Sept. 20, 2001

Jul 27th, 2002, 02:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:43 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation Sorry, still playing in Photoshop. The Evolution of the MINI? I LIKE !! Good work

Jul 31st, 2002, 08:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
AER MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Herts, UK Local Time: 12:43 PM Posts: 105 Offline	looks a bit like the original idea for the MiniSprint (lowered roofline etc) Perhaps someone will resurect Rob Walkers ideas from the original MiniSprint from the mid 60's, and apply it to the latest offering. It'd be interesting to see what it'd look like from the front, as you don't want it to look too squat (as if it had been troden on).

Aug 1st, 2002, 02:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
M3NTAL Kev MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 142 Offline	Re: Lower the Lid! Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation Having been the proud owner of an MCS for a week now, I have one suggestion for future designs of the MINI... Lower the roofline a bit! I'm 5'10" tall and have at least 6" of headroom in the car with the seat at my comfortable setting. I began noticing that the MINI, when viewed head-on from a distance, looked a bit tall or possibly top-heavy. Don't get me wrong, I love everything about the car, but I feel that it would be more true to the classic Mini if you could see the entire Union Jack at any perspective. This sample has about 2 inches lopped off. Well... having only sat in my friends MCS briefly, I can safely say that the roofline is perfect (I'm also 5'10") if you need to wear a helmet in the car (which my buddy and I will likely need to do ). Last edited by M3NTAL Kev : Aug 1st, 2002 at 02:19 PM.

Aug 3rd, 2002, 11:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Colorado "S" MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver Local Time: 05:43 AM Posts: 416 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation Sorry, still playing in Photoshop. The Evolution of the MINI? http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...&postid=122633 Oh, that leaves me wanting H&R coilovers in a bad way Dave @ MCO MINI5280

Aug 4th, 2002, 02:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:43 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation Sorry, still playing in Photoshop. The Evolution of the MINI? Do you have a bigger shot of the devolved MINI ?

Aug 4th, 2002, 07:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	Sorry Basil...but because of the size limitations here, I downsized it and did not save it in it's original size. I'll redo it as soon as possible. PS: Thanks for the larger photo tip on your "New Wallpaper" thread.

Aug 4th, 2002, 08:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 5,344 Offline	Chopped and lowered! Like an old American street rod. Now you only need to "french" the head and tail lights Missing my buddies Dan and Ed but glad I have two angel buddies, And on a quest to Right Secco's Wrongs

Aug 6th, 2002, 12:06 PM	#16 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil Do you have a bigger shot of the devolved MINI ? Here ya go! Attached Thumbnails

Aug 7th, 2002, 09:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
simonjessop MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kent, UK Local Time: 12:43 PM Posts: 47 Offline	Hi, I'm currently working on a dropped roof, and shortened MINI. I've found if you drop the roof, by anything from 2 - 5 inches, you get this long wheel based MINI which looks a bit pants. I've read of people talking about an "M-MINI", which should damn well be called the "M-COOPER" (my opinion!!!), so as per my previos post am designing one as we speak. I've dropped the roof down a fair few inches, and also shortened it a bit. All will be revealed on Friday. Simon.

Aug 7th, 2002, 02:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	I'll look forward to it...when you say that you're working on this, are you working on a design for one or are you actually cutting a car? I have chopped the roof pillars on this one plus I chopped about three inches on the body height and chopped it twice lengthwise at the middle of the rear side window and the front side window. Then I added to the bottom of the front spoiler and the bottom panel between the front and rear wheel. Good Luck!

Aug 7th, 2002, 05:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
simonjessop MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kent, UK Local Time: 12:43 PM Posts: 47 Offline	Its a design rather than an actualy trim and cut. I'm about to order my cooper and there is nooooo way i'm cutting it at all. Its really cool with the latest graphics programs to see what different sizes the MINI looks good in. When i was a member of the SMOC, John (Mini Shortie owner), brought me back from Mini 40 at Silverstone. You would not believe the looks we got on the Motorway on the way back it was brilliant. I liked the idea of his shortened Mini, but long term, i don't think i could do it myself. So, designed "M-Cooper" is due Friday. Its cool. BMW take note. BTW, saw this great number plate on a 3-series today: "OK 02 BMW" Sweeeeeeet. Simon

Aug 7th, 2002, 05:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 08:43 AM Posts: 1,400 Offline	Very cool, Simon...I look forward to seeing your M-Cooper. In the meantime, here is the above "devo" side-by-side with the actual car for comparison. Attached Thumbnails

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