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camini · Jun 14th, 2006, 10:39 AM

I've been reading all the relevant posts in this section but still would like to know what we can expect in terms of 2007 models / engines.

ONE 2007: unchanged Tritec 90hp?
Cooper 2007: new BMW/PSA 115 hp atmosperic ?
Cooper S 2007: new BMW/PSA 170 hp turbo ?

What about the 143 hp turbo - will that go in any MINI?

Trotti · Jun 14th, 2006, 10:46 AM

Some press reports suggest there will be 2 cooper models one with 115hp and the other with the 143hp turbo. Would make sence to plug the gap between the cooper and the S power outputs.

dalboyne · Jun 14th, 2006, 11:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Trotti

Some press reports suggest there will be 2 cooper models one with 115hp and the other with the 143hp turbo. Would make sence to plug the gap between the cooper and the S power outputs.

Interesting - I wonder if that would be a detuned version of the 170HP model, in which case it could be retuned to get S performance on the cheap?

camini · Jun 14th, 2006, 11:40 AM

A 143hp cooper is what I'm hoping for actually.

Dalboyne, actually I haven't found the official BMW/PSA description of the new 170hp, only the new 143hp twin scroll turbo (see this link:http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlforum/s...ujet270470.htm - pdf)

It would be surprising that, if MINI want to reduce production cost, they would bring out a new Cooper model? Unless the Cooper becomes 143hp standard and no more 115hp - would be cool..

Tio Barry · Jun 14th, 2006, 05:37 PM

For the US it would seem to make sense that the Cooper and Cooper S be 143 (low pressure turbo) and 170hp - after all, the US market relies heavily on the automatic and the non CVT eats power. Supplying all turbo models would simplify matters for US dealers.

dalboyne · Jun 15th, 2006, 03:35 PM

Here's news from today's Autoexpress web page, it's talking about the Peugeot 207 CC, which will share the engines:

Power will come from two new 1.6-litre engines developed with the help of BMW. A naturally aspirated unit produces 115bhp or 130bhp, while a turbocharged model delivers 150bhp.

The engines will also appear in the standard 207, with a warm 150bhp GT variant set to debut at the British Motor Show in July. Hot hatch fans will have to wait for the Geneva Motor Show in March next year for the full-strength GTI to arrive with upwards of 170bhp. A GTI version of the CC is not planned, but diesel drop-tops are on the cards.

pedrosfm · Jun 23rd, 2006, 03:30 AM

I might be killed for saying this, but I want a MINI for style and fun, as well as fuel economy, so I'm more interested in the new MINI One D. Let's hope they use the 1.6 HDi with 110hp.

Wooly · Jun 25th, 2006, 10:02 PM

ive read in the new mini mag that the cooper will have 140bhp n/a cooper s 170+ turbo'ed.
and all minis will come with 6 speed gearbox.

am i on my own....id like a paddleshift gearbox

a decent one mind

, or possibly one like the mercs, which have semi automatic boxes with the paddles, so you can shift with paddles or move the gear knob up and down, or just use traditional automatic.

Paul · Jun 25th, 2006, 10:18 PM

Don't believe all you read.

quarter · Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrosfm

I might be killed for saying this, but I want a MINI for style and fun, as well as fuel economy, so I'm more interested in the new MINI One D. Let's hope they use the 1.6 HDi with 110hp.

Well i think the same pedrosfm

I would like to know if there are any plans for a mini sports car with a diesel engine...Like Skoda has the Fabia RS running on gasoline and diesel, i was wondering if it could happen with the mini?
Does anyone knows anything?

Paul · Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:35 PM

The diesel offerings should please more people I think. But I wouldn't expect anything earth shattering.

quarter · Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

The diesel offerings should please more people I think. But I wouldn't expect anything earth shattering.

where can i see the "diesel offerings"?

Paul · Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:42 PM

Obviously, nothing has beeen confirmed or announced officially yet. But a Ford/PSA engine plant would be a good place to start.

minicabrio · Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by quarter

where can i see the "diesel offerings"?

I should think they are under close wraps....... at least till September when the press releases start filtering through. Even then it may be some time after the launch of the initial models before the new diesel materialises.

quarter · Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Obviously, nothing has beeen confirmed or announced officially yet. But a Ford/PSA engine plant would be a good place to start.

lol

well, here in portugal we have 2 diesel engines,88hp and 75hp.Even though the 88hp version is good enough i would really like to see a mini diesel with more than 100hp, just to level up with the VW's golf tdi or audi's,bmw's and so on..

Paul · Jul 3rd, 2006, 08:23 AM

You should be satisfied then.

dalboyne · Jul 4th, 2006, 04:15 AM

So, does this mean there might even be a diesel cabrio in the pipeline? And ony idea when the new cabrio will make an appearance? Or is all the emphasis on the Traveller?

Ian

minicabrio · Jul 4th, 2006, 08:12 AM

I'd imagine we won't see the convertible until 2008....

dalboyne · Jul 4th, 2006, 09:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio

I'd imagine we won't see the convertible until 2008....

I wonder how shabby my soft-top will look by then

minicabrio · Jul 4th, 2006, 09:23 AM

I've had my current top on now for 6 months with very heavy usage and it's the best yet... Very little marking if at all...

And its one of the blue ones (worse of the three colours)...

Jun 14th, 2006, 10:39 AM	#1
camini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brussels Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 195 Offline	Models / engines - what's it going to be for 2007 I've been reading all the relevant posts in this section but still would like to know what we can expect in terms of 2007 models / engines. ONE 2007: unchanged Tritec 90hp? Cooper 2007: new BMW/PSA 115 hp atmosperic ? Cooper S 2007: new BMW/PSA 170 hp turbo ? What about the 143 hp turbo - will that go in any MINI?

Jun 14th, 2006, 05:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tio Barry MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Albany, NY, USA Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 57 Offline	For the US it would seem to make sense that the Cooper and Cooper S be 143 (low pressure turbo) and 170hp - after all, the US market relies heavily on the automatic and the non CVT eats power. Supplying all turbo models would simplify matters for US dealers. Tio Barry

Jun 25th, 2006, 10:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wooly Mad fer it Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 1,055 Offline	ive read in the new mini mag that the cooper will have 140bhp n/a cooper s 170+ turbo'ed. and all minis will come with 6 speed gearbox. am i on my own....id like a paddleshift gearbox a decent one mind, or possibly one like the mercs, which have semi automatic boxes with the paddles, so you can shift with paddles or move the gear knob up and down, or just use traditional automatic.

Jun 25th, 2006, 10:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 41,220 Offline	Don't believe all you read. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 41,220 Offline	The diesel offerings should please more people I think. But I wouldn't expect anything earth shattering. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

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Jun 14th, 2006, 10:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Trotti How much! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newport Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 69 Offline	Some press reports suggest there will be 2 cooper models one with 115hp and the other with the 143hp turbo. Would make sence to plug the gap between the cooper and the S power outputs.

Jun 14th, 2006, 11:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
dalboyne R57? Bring it on! My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Luxembourg Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 1,711 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Trotti Some press reports suggest there will be 2 cooper models one with 115hp and the other with the 143hp turbo. Would make sence to plug the gap between the cooper and the S power outputs. Interesting - I wonder if that would be a detuned version of the 170HP model, in which case it could be retuned to get S performance on the cheap?

Jun 14th, 2006, 11:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
camini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brussels Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 195 Offline	A 143hp cooper is what I'm hoping for actually. Dalboyne, actually I haven't found the official BMW/PSA description of the new 170hp, only the new 143hp twin scroll turbo (see this link:http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlforum/s...ujet270470.htm - pdf) It would be surprising that, if MINI want to reduce production cost, they would bring out a new Cooper model? Unless the Cooper becomes 143hp standard and no more 115hp - would be cool..

Jun 15th, 2006, 03:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
dalboyne R57? Bring it on! My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Luxembourg Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 1,711 Offline	Here's news from today's Autoexpress web page, it's talking about the Peugeot 207 CC, which will share the engines: Power will come from two new 1.6-litre engines developed with the help of BMW. A naturally aspirated unit produces 115bhp or 130bhp, while a turbocharged model delivers 150bhp. The engines will also appear in the standard 207, with a warm 150bhp GT variant set to debut at the British Motor Show in July. Hot hatch fans will have to wait for the Geneva Motor Show in March next year for the full-strength GTI to arrive with upwards of 170bhp. A GTI version of the CC is not planned, but diesel drop-tops are on the cards.

Jun 23rd, 2006, 03:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
pedrosfm MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 12 Offline	I might be killed for saying this, but I want a MINI for style and fun, as well as fuel economy, so I'm more interested in the new MINI One D. Let's hope they use the 1.6 HDi with 110hp.

Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
quarter rock-mix.blogspot***** Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Penafiel Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 47 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by pedrosfm I might be killed for saying this, but I want a MINI for style and fun, as well as fuel economy, so I'm more interested in the new MINI One D. Let's hope they use the 1.6 HDi with 110hp. Well i think the same pedrosfm I would like to know if there are any plans for a mini sports car with a diesel engine...Like Skoda has the Fabia RS running on gasoline and diesel, i was wondering if it could happen with the mini? Does anyone knows anything?

Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
quarter rock-mix.blogspot***** Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Penafiel Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 47 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett The diesel offerings should please more people I think. But I wouldn't expect anything earth shattering. where can i see the "diesel offerings"?

Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 41,220 Offline	Obviously, nothing has beeen confirmed or announced officially yet. But a Ford/PSA engine plant would be a good place to start. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
minicabrio sick note Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 15,717 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by quarter where can i see the "diesel offerings"? I should think they are under close wraps....... at least till September when the press releases start filtering through. Even then it may be some time after the launch of the initial models before the new diesel materialises.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/

Jul 2nd, 2006, 10:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
quarter rock-mix.blogspot***** Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Penafiel Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 47 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Obviously, nothing has beeen confirmed or announced officially yet. But a Ford/PSA engine plant would be a good place to start. lol well, here in portugal we have 2 diesel engines,88hp and 75hp.Even though the 88hp version is good enough i would really like to see a mini diesel with more than 100hp, just to level up with the VW's golf tdi or audi's,bmw's and so on..

Jul 3rd, 2006, 08:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 41,220 Offline	You should be satisfied then. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jul 4th, 2006, 04:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
dalboyne R57? Bring it on! My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Luxembourg Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 1,711 Offline	Cabrio Models So, does this mean there might even be a diesel cabrio in the pipeline? And ony idea when the new cabrio will make an appearance? Or is all the emphasis on the Traveller? Ian

Jul 4th, 2006, 08:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
minicabrio sick note Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 15,717 Offline	I'd imagine we won't see the convertible until 2008....

Jul 4th, 2006, 09:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
dalboyne R57? Bring it on! My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Luxembourg Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 1,711 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minicabrio I'd imagine we won't see the convertible until 2008.... I wonder how shabby my soft-top will look by then

Jul 4th, 2006, 09:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
minicabrio sick note Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 15,717 Offline	I've had my current top on now for 6 months with very heavy usage and it's the best yet... Very little marking if at all... And its one of the blue ones (worse of the three colours)...

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