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MiniMan7 · Feb 1st, 2003, 03:10 AM

Just heard a bunch of Mini2ers talking about this new Cooper RS coming out? Anyone know for sure if this is true? Any details!?!?

I basically heard that it is basically a Cooper S but instead of the base 163hp, it will now have around 200hp? Can anybody verify this?!

Thanks for the help!

mrhollio · Feb 1st, 2003, 03:54 AM

Where did you hear that??

profets · Feb 1st, 2003, 04:24 AM

I've never heard the name Cooper RS for it until now, but I read an article last fall about it. A credible source said that the Cooper S was going to be sent through BMW's M Division, which still did not mean they were going to sell a MINI placed above the Cooper S in the product line. I'm not sure how much more the guys at M would want to do with the car, especially with the price the Cooper S has (especially once you start adding options), but they were sure the minimum horsepower would be around 230.

Mini M! · Feb 1st, 2003, 04:57 AM

i have heard of the following rumored cars but no "RS".

- Alpina 200hp version MCS (this has been the rumor for the past couple of years, and still non existent as a production car)
- John Cooper Works version MCS, package to be available to existing MCS for upgrade, or complete car if you are in the UK.

obviously there are other upgraded cars from Hartge and Hamann...

Can you source us where you hear this "RS" model?

Quote:

Originally posted by MiniMan7
Just heard a bunch of Mini2ers talking about this new Cooper RS coming out? Anyone know for sure if this is true? Any details!?!?

I basically heard that it is basically a Cooper S but instead of the base 163hp, it will now have around 200hp? Can anybody verify this?!

Thanks for the help!

dinger · Feb 1st, 2003, 07:04 AM

The RS "Rouse Sport" letters are owned by Ford.

Examples are

Ford escort mark 1 RS1800
Ford escort mark 1 RS2000
Ford escort mark 2 RS1800
Ford escort mark 2 RS2000
Ford escort mark 3 RS turbo
Ford escort mark 4 RS turbo
Ford fiesta RS turbo
Ford fiesta RS1800
Ford sierra RS cosworth
Ford sierra RS 500
Ford sierra sapphire RS cosworth

And finally we have the lastest edition

Ford Focus RS

Taking all this into account I dont think MINI will use the letters RS.

dinger

Tone · Feb 1st, 2003, 09:25 AM

The guy who told you that must have been drunk - the same one who told me that Ford were bringing out a Focus M!!

Paul · Feb 1st, 2003, 10:37 AM

As far as I know (from what I can cobble together from what I've been 'told' over time).

Alpina MINI. Rumour from the word go. Was a non starter. Even the magazines printed a kind of 'retraction' by saying it was 'cancelled'. To be honest, I VERY much doubt that was more than a pipe dream.

'M' Division MINI. They wont do it. BUT I have been told that M division have been playing with the MINI, but that's a world away from BMW actually branding the MINI with the BMW 'M'.. er, brand. (Too many brands there, sorry).

John Cooper Works. Endorsed, official, and resold via MINI Dealers, warranty in tact. I have it on several good words that this is the extend of BMW 'official' tuning for the Cooper and S.

MiniMan7 · Feb 1st, 2003, 07:18 PM

Hate to point fingers, but a few people were telling me in the chat. They said it was going to come out sometime in 2003?

Adriann001 · Feb 1st, 2003, 07:31 PM

I receved a letter from Birds/Hartge that they wanted to do a striped out MCS and call it a Cooper RS.

Paul · Feb 2nd, 2003, 04:03 PM

Aftermarket people might might make one, but MINI wont.

RSAmerica · Feb 2nd, 2003, 06:05 PM

Ford?

BTW, RS=Rennsport

Rich-UK · Feb 2nd, 2003, 10:17 PM

I thought RS = Rallye Sport

And not forgetting the Escort RS Cosworth... Always my dream car until I grew up...

MiniMan7 · Feb 3rd, 2003, 12:29 AM

I was alittle confused at first. I didn't think Mini would make a Cooper RS. Ok, thanks for the help guys!

GordonD · Feb 3rd, 2003, 12:25 PM

You all forgot Audi also loves the RS designation

Grinder · Feb 4th, 2003, 02:54 AM

It seems that the popular opinion is that the RS is a fairy tale. Well, Christal from MINI of Sterling announced a few weeks ago that the RS *would* be comming out with ~200 HP through intake, chip, exhaust, etc... This made it sound suspiciously like JCW MCS to me, BUT she said that there might be some RS-only colors, so I dunno.

Paul · Feb 4th, 2003, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grinder
It seems that the popular opinion is that the RS is a fairy tale. Well, Christal from MINI of Sterling announced a few weeks ago that the RS *would* be comming out with ~200 HP through intake, chip, exhaust, etc... This made it sound suspiciously like JCW MCS to me, BUT she said that there might be some RS-only colors, so I dunno.

From my experience, dealers say a lot, and a lot of what they say is true. Then there's the rest.

We all know how many times members here tell the dealers how to order the cars and what options are available/will be available, I wouldn't hold your breath that's all.

S2000&CooperS · Feb 5th, 2003, 06:30 PM

I also heard Crystal from MINI of Sterling talk about a Cooper RS variant, in addition to Cabriolet and Clubman versions at the meet we had a few weeks ago. Don't know if she was referring to a JCW Cooper S or a separate model that will actually be called the Cooper RS.

If it becomes reality, my Cooper will be traded for the JCW/RS!!

NearlyNN · Feb 6th, 2003, 10:55 AM

Hey what the heck! Here's another one. How about the 1969 Chevy Camaro RS. Do you think we can cram that 350 cubic inch V8 under our bonnets?

smartbomb · Feb 6th, 2003, 07:18 PM

I swear if you closely at that Porsche RS you can see a letter A in front of the R and an E after the S.....

Rich-UK · Feb 6th, 2003, 08:34 PM

Might be called RS in the US and JCW in the UK.....

Are there any Ford RS's in the US?

Feb 1st, 2003, 03:10 AM	#1
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 2,897 Offline	Mini Cooper RS??? Just heard a bunch of Mini2ers talking about this new Cooper RS coming out? Anyone know for sure if this is true? Any details!?!? I basically heard that it is basically a Cooper S but instead of the base 163hp, it will now have around 200hp? Can anybody verify this?! Thanks for the help! http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

Feb 1st, 2003, 03:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
mrhollio road trip time Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PV - SoCal Local Time: 06:36 PM Posts: 441 Offline	Where did you hear that?? Trust not the heart of a man for whom old clothes, and the Mini, are not venerable!

Feb 1st, 2003, 04:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mini M! MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Local Time: 05:36 PM Posts: 162 Offline	Re: Mini Cooper RS??? i have heard of the following rumored cars but no "RS". - Alpina 200hp version MCS (this has been the rumor for the past couple of years, and still non existent as a production car) - John Cooper Works version MCS, package to be available to existing MCS for upgrade, or complete car if you are in the UK. obviously there are other upgraded cars from Hartge and Hamann... Can you source us where you hear this "RS" model? Quote: Originally posted by MiniMan7 Just heard a bunch of Mini2ers talking about this new Cooper RS coming out? Anyone know for sure if this is true? Any details!?!? I basically heard that it is basically a Cooper S but instead of the base 163hp, it will now have around 200hp? Can anybody verify this?! Thanks for the help!

Feb 1st, 2003, 07:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
dinger TT or not TT Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent Local Time: 01:36 AM Posts: 3,607 Offline	The RS "Rouse Sport" letters are owned by Ford. Examples are Ford escort mark 1 RS1800 Ford escort mark 1 RS2000 Ford escort mark 2 RS1800 Ford escort mark 2 RS2000 Ford escort mark 3 RS turbo Ford escort mark 4 RS turbo Ford fiesta RS turbo Ford fiesta RS1800 Ford sierra RS cosworth Ford sierra RS 500 Ford sierra sapphire RS cosworth And finally we have the lastest edition Ford Focus RS Taking all this into account I dont think MINI will use the letters RS. dinger Last edited by dinger : Feb 1st, 2003 at 07:18 AM.

Feb 1st, 2003, 09:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tone MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dorset, U.K. Local Time: 02:36 AM Posts: 5,795 Offline	The guy who told you that must have been drunk - the same one who told me that Ford were bringing out a Focus M!! "I get by with a little help from my friends"

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Feb 1st, 2003, 04:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
profets MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 08:36 PM Posts: 7 Offline	I've never heard the name Cooper RS for it until now, but I read an article last fall about it. A credible source said that the Cooper S was going to be sent through BMW's M Division, which still did not mean they were going to sell a MINI placed above the Cooper S in the product line. I'm not sure how much more the guys at M would want to do with the car, especially with the price the Cooper S has (especially once you start adding options), but they were sure the minimum horsepower would be around 230.

Feb 1st, 2003, 10:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:36 AM Posts: 41,274 Offline	As far as I know (from what I can cobble together from what I've been 'told' over time). Alpina MINI. Rumour from the word go. Was a non starter. Even the magazines printed a kind of 'retraction' by saying it was 'cancelled'. To be honest, I VERY much doubt that was more than a pipe dream. 'M' Division MINI. They wont do it. BUT I have been told that M division have been playing with the MINI, but that's a world away from BMW actually branding the MINI with the BMW 'M'.. er, brand. (Too many brands there, sorry). John Cooper Works. Endorsed, official, and resold via MINI Dealers, warranty in tact. I have it on several good words that this is the extend of BMW 'official' tuning for the Cooper and S. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Feb 1st, 2003, 07:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 2,897 Offline	Hate to point fingers, but a few people were telling me in the chat. They said it was going to come out sometime in 2003? http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

Feb 1st, 2003, 07:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Adriann001 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Local Time: 05:36 AM Posts: 149 Offline	I receved a letter from Birds/Hartge that they wanted to do a striped out MCS and call it a Cooper RS.

Feb 2nd, 2003, 04:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:36 AM Posts: 41,274 Offline	Aftermarket people might might make one, but MINI wont. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Feb 2nd, 2003, 06:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
RSAmerica MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NJ, USA Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 120 Offline	Ford? BTW, RS=Rennsport

Feb 2nd, 2003, 10:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rich-UK MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bucks, UK Local Time: 02:36 AM Posts: 253 Offline	I thought RS = Rallye Sport And not forgetting the Escort RS Cosworth... Always my dream car until I grew up...

Feb 3rd, 2003, 12:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
MiniMan7 Let's Motor. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Local Time: 10:36 PM Posts: 2,897 Offline	I was alittle confused at first. I didn't think Mini would make a Cooper RS. Ok, thanks for the help guys! http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/16791/32165.jpg

Feb 3rd, 2003, 12:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
GordonD MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mississauga, Ont, Ca Local Time: 09:36 PM Posts: 781 Offline	You all forgot Audi also loves the RS designation aka KWKSLVR Member: Southern Ontario MINI Club BMW Club of Canada - Trillium Chapter

Feb 4th, 2003, 02:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
Grinder Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Northern VA. Local Time: 08:36 PM Posts: 1,118 Offline	It seems that the popular opinion is that the RS is a fairy tale. Well, Christal from MINI of Sterling announced a few weeks ago that the RS would be comming out with ~200 HP through intake, chip, exhaust, etc... This made it sound suspiciously like JCW MCS to me, BUT she said that there might be some RS-only colors, so I dunno. Whatever.

Feb 4th, 2003, 07:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:36 AM Posts: 41,274 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Grinder It seems that the popular opinion is that the RS is a fairy tale. Well, Christal from MINI of Sterling announced a few weeks ago that the RS would be comming out with ~200 HP through intake, chip, exhaust, etc... This made it sound suspiciously like JCW MCS to me, BUT she said that there might be some RS-only colors, so I dunno. From my experience, dealers say a lot, and a lot of what they say is true. Then there's the rest. We all know how many times members here tell the dealers how to order the cars and what options are available/will be available, I wouldn't hold your breath that's all. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Feb 5th, 2003, 06:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
S2000&CooperS MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Glen Allen, VA USA Local Time: 01:36 AM Posts: 956 Offline	I also heard Crystal from MINI of Sterling talk about a Cooper RS variant, in addition to Cabriolet and Clubman versions at the meet we had a few weeks ago. Don't know if she was referring to a JCW Cooper S or a separate model that will actually be called the Cooper RS. If it becomes reality, my Cooper will be traded for the JCW/RS!! 08 Smart ForTwo Passion Silver/Black/Red (Going on Ebay!) 07 Honda Accord V6 6-speed Taffeta White/Tan (wife's) 06 MINI Cooper S JCW Checkmate Astro Black/Silver Last edited by S2000&CooperS : Feb 5th, 2003 at 06:50 PM.

Feb 6th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
NearlyNN Happy Trudger My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Out on Highway 61 Local Time: 05:36 PM Posts: 2,079 Offline	Hey what the heck! Here's another one. How about the 1969 Chevy Camaro RS. Do you think we can cram that 350 cubic inch V8 under our bonnets?

Feb 6th, 2003, 07:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
smartbomb Bring the noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Trancentral Local Time: 01:36 AM Posts: 2,437 Offline	I swear if you closely at that Porsche RS you can see a letter A in front of the R and an E after the S.....

Feb 6th, 2003, 08:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
Rich-UK MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bucks, UK Local Time: 02:36 AM Posts: 253 Offline	Might be called RS in the US and JCW in the UK..... Are there any Ford RS's in the US?

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