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Prowse · Apr 19th, 2006, 11:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3

i cant see anyone other than those laid off employees giving a monkeys personally.

Interesting, everyone in our office has said that they'll never touch another French car again, and are up for a boycott on all French products.

Are there any updates on the engine's yet (with the final HP outputs)?

elmo · Apr 19th, 2006, 12:50 PM

Hmmm ... It would be better if the assembly was done in France ...

just kidding

hskev · Apr 27th, 2006, 07:53 PM

Hello all, I am new here. I am in love with Mini and I am really puzzled whether to buy the current one or wait for new R56 model.

By the way, I found the following after some search on the net for the new engines :

The 207 GTi will also make its return later in 2006, powered by the same engine that will give the next generation Mini Cooper S its drive. Likewise a product of the Peugeot Citroën/BMW Group engine joint venture, the 207 GTi will be powered by a 1.6-litre direct-injection petrol engine that makes use of a twin scroll turbocharger, taking peak power to 134kW (180hp).

Tone · Apr 27th, 2006, 09:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hskev

Hello all, I am new here. I am in love with Mini and I am really puzzled whether to buy the current one or wait for new R56 model.

By the way, I found the following after some search on the net for the new engines :

The 207 GTi will also make its return later in 2006, powered by the same engine that will give the next generation Mini Cooper S its drive. Likewise a product of the Peugeot Citroën/BMW Group engine joint venture, the 207 GTi will be powered by a 1.6-litre direct-injection petrol engine that makes use of a twin scroll turbocharger, taking peak power to 134kW (180hp).

Wait pal - wait - it will not be long...

Prowse · May 1st, 2006, 12:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tone

Wait pal - wait - it will not be long...

Yep, I'd try and wait. Have your cash at the ready though - if the new car turns out to be a minger (not nice looking), you'll probably be able to buy the current model.

pedrosfm · May 3rd, 2006, 03:52 PM

Hey guys! This is my first post.

My parents will be giving me (hopefully!) as a present a MINI One D late this year. I live in Portugal and a petrol MINI is completely out of the equation seeing as it's more expensive and petrol prices are up the roof and climbing.

I've seen the picture of the R56 in the Autocar site, the one with the blue R56 with no masking (can't post links, since I haven't made 5 posts yet lol), and I've fallen in love with that new front. The new interior ir also crazy cool!

Knowing that the new diesel engine will most likely be the 110hp 1.6 HDi, and the manufacturing costs of the R56 will go down a bit, do you think the prices (at least for the diesel version) will be lower/the same or will they go up?
That will make all the difference between getting the current one or waiting for the R56, seeing as the price for the basic MINI One D is already the limit my parents are accepting.

Thanks in advance for any info you might have. Hope to be a MINI member soon enough.

Paul · May 3rd, 2006, 04:41 PM

Every indication is prices will go up. In addition, I've not seen a single, undisguised photo anywhere of the new model (online or in magazines), so be careful what you make judgements on, they're probably disguised or fakes.

Pritch · May 3rd, 2006, 04:59 PM

I don't think the Diesel exists until next year...

pedrosfm · May 3rd, 2006, 05:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Every indication is prices will go up. In addition, I've not seen a single, undisguised photo anywhere of the new model (online or in magazines), so be careful what you make judgements on, they're probably disguised or fakes.

This is the site I was talking about. (I managed to reach 5 posts

)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212818

maxdude · May 4th, 2006, 07:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by pedrosfm

This is the site I was talking about. (I managed to reach 5 posts

)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212818

This is an artists impression, photoshop, something like that. Fine effort though I think!!

pedrosfm · May 4th, 2006, 11:58 AM

Well, that is a fantastic artist's impression indeed!
I can only hope the final result looks as good as that, imo.
Thanks for the help guys.

scone · May 16th, 2006, 07:20 PM

I was reading an article in Autocar about the new direct injection 3 litre BMW engine, it said that it was fitted with an electric water pump which only worked when required in order to save fuel, it also said that this technology would be used on the upcoming Mini Cooper, sounds like the new engine is going to be very high tech.

Pepper'D · May 22nd, 2006, 10:55 AM

any hints on the new diesel engines?

Prowse · May 22nd, 2006, 12:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scone

I was reading an article in Autocar about the new direct injection 3 litre BMW engine, it said that it was fitted with an electric water pump which only worked when required in order to save fuel, it also said that this technology would be used on the upcoming Mini Cooper, sounds like the new engine is going to be very high tech.

Yep, BMW seem to have a lot of gadgets coming out in the next year. Auto-parking too! Not sure if that will ever make it onto the MINI.

Wooly · Jul 8th, 2006, 03:49 PM

i doubt psa-bmw venture will mean that they come up with a final product together and that will be that. how do we know mini wont take the engine back round theres and develop it further

when people think of french cars they think of the old days where they were crappy tinny things (....well they still kind of are), but they have moved forward and they are probably the most creative automotive group around right now in my opinion. citroen are are extremely creative, daring and exciting with their cars, just hope they can bring something to the table when it comes to engines.
ill reserve judgement for when it is released, but i do have high hopes it sounds like it will be quite advanced.

stripey · Jul 12th, 2006, 10:37 AM

Some info on the new 207 GT turbo on Pistonheads

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=14442

Don't think it adds anything that you don't already know though!

Paul · Jul 12th, 2006, 10:49 AM

Nothing new there is there. It will be very interesting to see how tuning companies go with this new engine, we could get a big cross-over between Pug and MINI tuners, and that could be a very good thing in terms of creativity and initiative, as well as making it more cost effective for tuners to get involved.

JOHN BAGLEY · Jul 12th, 2006, 09:25 PM

Well If They Put The 1.6td In The New Mini That Can Be Chipped To 150bhp
I'll Order One When Its Out ! These Pug Engines Do Go !

Wooly · Jul 13th, 2006, 01:45 PM

Can You Not Write A Capital At The Beginning Of Every Word Like This.

Quote:

These Pug Engines Do Go !

Yes, down the breakers more often than not. hopefully a different case here. ill have to see what its like before i might order mine

Paul · Jul 13th, 2006, 01:59 PM

It's written all in caps, the forum software spares us the shouting automatically, but keeps the first word capitalised.

Apr 27th, 2006, 09:15 PM	#164 (permalink)
Tone MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dorset, U.K. Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 5,795 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hskev Hello all, I am new here. I am in love with Mini and I am really puzzled whether to buy the current one or wait for new R56 model. By the way, I found the following after some search on the net for the new engines : The 207 GTi will also make its return later in 2006, powered by the same engine that will give the next generation Mini Cooper S its drive. Likewise a product of the Peugeot Citroën/BMW Group engine joint venture, the 207 GTi will be powered by a 1.6-litre direct-injection petrol engine that makes use of a twin scroll turbocharger, taking peak power to 134kW (180hp). Wait pal - wait - it will not be long... "I get by with a little help from my friends"

May 3rd, 2006, 04:59 PM	#168 (permalink)
Pritch MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 282 Offline	I don't think the Diesel exists until next year... David 2003 Mini Cooper S - DS/B

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Apr 19th, 2006, 12:50 PM	#162 (permalink)
elmo MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 26 Offline	Hmmm ... It would be better if the assembly was done in France ... just kidding

Apr 27th, 2006, 07:53 PM	#163 (permalink)
hskev MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 7 Offline	Hello all, I am new here. I am in love with Mini and I am really puzzled whether to buy the current one or wait for new R56 model. By the way, I found the following after some search on the net for the new engines : The 207 GTi will also make its return later in 2006, powered by the same engine that will give the next generation Mini Cooper S its drive. Likewise a product of the Peugeot Citroën/BMW Group engine joint venture, the 207 GTi will be powered by a 1.6-litre direct-injection petrol engine that makes use of a twin scroll turbocharger, taking peak power to 134kW (180hp).

May 1st, 2006, 12:18 PM	#165 (permalink)
Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 1,495 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tone Wait pal - wait - it will not be long... Yep, I'd try and wait. Have your cash at the ready though - if the new car turns out to be a minger (not nice looking), you'll probably be able to buy the current model.

May 3rd, 2006, 03:52 PM	#166 (permalink)
pedrosfm MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 12 Offline	Hey guys! This is my first post. My parents will be giving me (hopefully!) as a present a MINI One D late this year. I live in Portugal and a petrol MINI is completely out of the equation seeing as it's more expensive and petrol prices are up the roof and climbing. I've seen the picture of the R56 in the Autocar site, the one with the blue R56 with no masking (can't post links, since I haven't made 5 posts yet lol), and I've fallen in love with that new front. The new interior ir also crazy cool! Knowing that the new diesel engine will most likely be the 110hp 1.6 HDi, and the manufacturing costs of the R56 will go down a bit, do you think the prices (at least for the diesel version) will be lower/the same or will they go up? That will make all the difference between getting the current one or waiting for the R56, seeing as the price for the basic MINI One D is already the limit my parents are accepting. Thanks in advance for any info you might have. Hope to be a MINI member soon enough.

May 3rd, 2006, 04:41 PM	#167 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 40,553 Offline	Every indication is prices will go up. In addition, I've not seen a single, undisguised photo anywhere of the new model (online or in magazines), so be careful what you make judgements on, they're probably disguised or fakes.

May 3rd, 2006, 05:58 PM	#169 (permalink)
pedrosfm MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 12 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Every indication is prices will go up. In addition, I've not seen a single, undisguised photo anywhere of the new model (online or in magazines), so be careful what you make judgements on, they're probably disguised or fakes. This is the site I was talking about. (I managed to reach 5 posts ) http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212818

May 4th, 2006, 07:52 AM	#170 (permalink)
maxdude MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 305 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by pedrosfm This is the site I was talking about. (I managed to reach 5 posts ) http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212818 This is an artists impression, photoshop, something like that. Fine effort though I think!!

May 4th, 2006, 11:58 AM	#171 (permalink)
pedrosfm MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Local Time: 01:54 AM Posts: 12 Offline	Well, that is a fantastic artist's impression indeed! I can only hope the final result looks as good as that, imo. Thanks for the help guys.

May 16th, 2006, 07:20 PM	#172 (permalink)
scone MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Winsford,Cheshire Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 168 Offline	I was reading an article in Autocar about the new direct injection 3 litre BMW engine, it said that it was fitted with an electric water pump which only worked when required in order to save fuel, it also said that this technology would be used on the upcoming Mini Cooper, sounds like the new engine is going to be very high tech.

May 22nd, 2006, 10:55 AM	#173 (permalink)
Pepper'D TUNIT DX Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: midlands,uk Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 1,827 Offline	any hints on the new diesel engines?

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Prowse MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lancs Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 1,495 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by scone I was reading an article in Autocar about the new direct injection 3 litre BMW engine, it said that it was fitted with an electric water pump which only worked when required in order to save fuel, it also said that this technology would be used on the upcoming Mini Cooper, sounds like the new engine is going to be very high tech. Yep, BMW seem to have a lot of gadgets coming out in the next year. Auto-parking too! Not sure if that will ever make it onto the MINI.

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Wooly Mad fer it Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 1,053 Offline	i doubt psa-bmw venture will mean that they come up with a final product together and that will be that. how do we know mini wont take the engine back round theres and develop it further when people think of french cars they think of the old days where they were crappy tinny things (....well they still kind of are), but they have moved forward and they are probably the most creative automotive group around right now in my opinion. citroen are are extremely creative, daring and exciting with their cars, just hope they can bring something to the table when it comes to engines. ill reserve judgement for when it is released, but i do have high hopes it sounds like it will be quite advanced.

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stripey MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reading Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 1,036 Offline	Some info on the new 207 GT turbo on Pistonheads http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=14442 Don't think it adds anything that you don't already know though!

Jul 12th, 2006, 10:49 AM	#177 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 40,553 Offline	Nothing new there is there. It will be very interesting to see how tuning companies go with this new engine, we could get a big cross-over between Pug and MINI tuners, and that could be a very good thing in terms of creativity and initiative, as well as making it more cost effective for tuners to get involved.

Jul 12th, 2006, 09:25 PM	#178 (permalink)
JOHN BAGLEY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: northstaffs Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 89 Offline	Well If They Put The 1.6td In The New Mini That Can Be Chipped To 150bhp I'll Order One When Its Out ! These Pug Engines Do Go !

Jul 13th, 2006, 01:45 PM	#179 (permalink)
Wooly Mad fer it Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 1,053 Offline	Can You Not Write A Capital At The Beginning Of Every Word Like This. Quote: These Pug Engines Do Go ! Yes, down the breakers more often than not. hopefully a different case here. ill have to see what its like before i might order mine

Jul 13th, 2006, 01:59 PM	#180 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:54 AM Posts: 40,553 Offline	It's written all in caps, the forum software spares us the shouting automatically, but keeps the first word capitalised.

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