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Black Works · Jul 10th, 2006, 09:10 PM

............tell them to sling there hooks!

This is a farewell to John Cooper Works, I dont know if any of you know, but they will being closing their doors to the public as of the 4th August this year due to lack of demand for the Works conversions.

This isnt an opportunity for anyone to start by saying the kits were rubbish or over priced, just spare a few thoughts for all the men and women who designed, marketed and fitted these kits to our cars.

They will be sorely missed!!!!!

ned78 · Jul 10th, 2006, 09:42 PM

Say it ain't so!

MarkW19 · Jul 10th, 2006, 09:44 PM

I think this is just the physical garage...JCW will remain very much a brand, but from main dealers rather than the small garage themselves?

UKC4 · Jul 10th, 2006, 09:50 PM

I will be sltted for this, but the price is a big issue in more way's than one. They produced very good kit's but at a very costly price. You could say this price included warranty as it did not affect your Manufacturer warranty.

But as for the closing of the garage, this is a great shame.

Root Ginger · Jul 10th, 2006, 10:36 PM

Unbelievable. They are THE best MINI garage on the planet. Always friendly, knowledgable, honest and welcoming.

I will probably pop down there with the Works on there last day.

S33BBY · Jul 10th, 2006, 10:43 PM

What a shame. I was only there a couple of days ago and it's a great place.

Where did you hear this from?

GTT 280 · Jul 11th, 2006, 05:35 AM

whos decision was it to close the branch - BMW or JCW ?

Every brand needs it's HQ garage - does this mean that JCW is now 'just' a brand manufactured by BMW. Have we lost the heritage?

Not sure who was responsible for the R&D, Marketing and Sales of the JCW conversions, but they really messed up big time.

How come small conversions companies can sell better for less, but it takes a company like JCW/BMW to develop something basic at such a high cost. Very bad planning. Not like it's new territory or anything.

Oh well. such is life hey.

JCW225 · Jul 11th, 2006, 08:29 AM

How Did you guys find out about this ?

Tonyt3 · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM

Just confirmed it with a garage contact. Hard to believe this can just end after years and years of heritage. Its not just a dealership closing, its the end of the line quite probably for the true brand.

The move of the 'kit' to the production line seems to have been the final nail in the coffin.

The question we should have been asking all along is "Does the move of the 'Works' conversion to a standard production line actually invalidate the whole idea of it being a 'Works' kit...???"

In retrospect, I think the answer to that is yes.

Sad news to both the New and Classic Mini scene.....

I suggest a 'protest' run down to Worthing..... blockade action. Burn some sheep, close the ports.....

AidenL · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:20 AM

Gutted

minirog · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:27 AM

That is very sad - any more information on this anywhere?

Washy · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:28 AM

Sad news....

venox22 · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:33 AM

will there be a works kit for the 2nd Gen mini?? will anyone still want it??? i wouldnt knowing that its just BMW using the brand name

Tonyt3 · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by venox22

will there be a works kit for the 2nd Gen mini?? will anyone still want it??? i wouldnt knowing that its just BMW using the brand name

Spot on I'm afraid.

If it hasnt been developed by or with John Cooper Garages, then it shouldn't be termed 'Works'.

Guaranteed there will be though.

smartbomb · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:41 AM

Surely if MINI have an interest in the Cooper Works brand then they should have an input. Hard to believe they are going.....
Or have MINI bought the name off them and just 'doing a Rover' and buying the name and discarding the remnants.....?

JCW225 · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:43 AM

Think we will hold onto our car now.
Sad news though.
Who is going to service all these Specialist Conversions now ?

minicore · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:45 AM

And what happens if, for example, I want the 225 upgrade on my 210? Who do I call about that? Can/do dealers do this anyway?

Sad news.

smartbomb · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:47 AM

Any official word....???
Will be sad, will have to get my S serviced elsewhere....

Vitesse · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:55 AM

I'm sure those at the higher echelons of JCG have made a nice little earner from BMW and selling the rights to use the Works brand in the future.

It's the guys lower down the food chain like Chris and Mike, I feel sorry for.

Can't praise their customer service enough.

Electric Blue · Jul 11th, 2006, 09:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by minicore

And what happens if, for example, I want the 225 upgrade on my 210? Who do I call about that? Can/do dealers do this anyway?

Sad news.

You won't be able to I'm afraid, as BMW will only do the "factory" kit..........somehow "I have an MCS Factory kit conversion" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Jul 10th, 2006, 09:10 PM	#1
Black Works MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Angmering, W Sussex Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 102 Offline	When a motoring giant asks for your help...... ............tell them to sling there hooks! This is a farewell to John Cooper Works, I dont know if any of you know, but they will being closing their doors to the public as of the 4th August this year due to lack of demand for the Works conversions. This isnt an opportunity for anyone to start by saying the kits were rubbish or over priced, just spare a few thoughts for all the men and women who designed, marketed and fitted these kits to our cars. They will be sorely missed!!!!!

Jul 10th, 2006, 09:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
ned78 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cork, Ireland Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 291 Offline	Say it ain't so! MINI Club of Ireland - Modern MINI Magazine's UK and Ireland Club of the Year 2007

Jul 10th, 2006, 10:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 4,780 Offline	Unbelievable. They are THE best MINI garage on the planet. Always friendly, knowledgable, honest and welcoming. I will probably pop down there with the Works on there last day. It was acceptable in the 80's

Jul 11th, 2006, 05:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 2,580 Offline	Far from surprised! whos decision was it to close the branch - BMW or JCW ? Every brand needs it's HQ garage - does this mean that JCW is now 'just' a brand manufactured by BMW. Have we lost the heritage? Not sure who was responsible for the R&D, Marketing and Sales of the JCW conversions, but they really messed up big time. How come small conversions companies can sell better for less, but it takes a company like JCW/BMW to develop something basic at such a high cost. Very bad planning. Not like it's new territory or anything. Oh well. such is life hey. Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 7,100 Offline	John Cooper Works shutting for good..... Just confirmed it with a garage contact. Hard to believe this can just end after years and years of heritage. Its not just a dealership closing, its the end of the line quite probably for the true brand. The move of the 'kit' to the production line seems to have been the final nail in the coffin. The question we should have been asking all along is "Does the move of the 'Works' conversion to a standard production line actually invalidate the whole idea of it being a 'Works' kit...???" In retrospect, I think the answer to that is yes. Sad news to both the New and Classic Mini scene..... I suggest a 'protest' run down to Worthing..... blockade action. Burn some sheep, close the ports.....

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Jul 10th, 2006, 09:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 3,906 Offline	I think this is just the physical garage...JCW will remain very much a brand, but from main dealers rather than the small garage themselves?

Jul 10th, 2006, 09:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
UKC4 MINI2 Sex God & etc...... My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bradford Local Time: 08:11 PM Posts: 1,359 Offline	I will be sltted for this, but the price is a big issue in more way's than one. They produced very good kit's but at a very costly price. You could say this price included warranty as it did not affect your Manufacturer warranty. But as for the closing of the garage, this is a great shame.

Jul 10th, 2006, 10:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 3,238 Offline	What a shame. I was only there a couple of days ago and it's a great place. Where did you hear this from?

Jul 11th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
JCW225 JCW 235 bhp My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2006 Local Time: 08:11 PM Posts: 143 Offline	How Did you guys find out about this ?

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 46,188 Offline	Gutted *Global Moderator*

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
minirog Hello :) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bristol Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 352 Offline	That is very sad - any more information on this anywhere?

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Sad news.... Black to the future....

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
venox22 only the brave! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lincs Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 1,471 Offline	will there be a works kit for the 2nd Gen mini?? will anyone still want it??? i wouldnt knowing that its just BMW using the brand name

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 7,100 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by venox22 will there be a works kit for the 2nd Gen mini?? will anyone still want it??? i wouldnt knowing that its just BMW using the brand name Spot on I'm afraid. If it hasnt been developed by or with John Cooper Garages, then it shouldn't be termed 'Works'. Guaranteed there will be though.

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
smartbomb Bring the noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Trancentral Local Time: 08:11 PM Posts: 2,614 Offline	Surely if MINI have an interest in the Cooper Works brand then they should have an input. Hard to believe they are going..... Or have MINI bought the name off them and just 'doing a Rover' and buying the name and discarding the remnants.....?

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
JCW225 JCW 235 bhp My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2006 Local Time: 08:11 PM Posts: 143 Offline	Think we will hold onto our car now. Sad news though. Who is going to service all these Specialist Conversions now ?

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:45 AM	#17 (permalink)
minicore Eat my dust. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 08:11 PM Posts: 2,259 Offline	And what happens if, for example, I want the 225 upgrade on my 210? Who do I call about that? Can/do dealers do this anyway? Sad news. Now driving a 2006 Brabus Roadster Coupe PW/B Cooper S Works has gone to its new home!

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
smartbomb Bring the noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Trancentral Local Time: 08:11 PM Posts: 2,614 Offline	Any official word....??? Will be sad, will have to get my S serviced elsewhere....

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
Vitesse MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Biggin Hill Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 592 Offline	I'm sure those at the higher echelons of JCG have made a nice little earner from BMW and selling the rights to use the Works brand in the future. It's the guys lower down the food chain like Chris and Mike, I feel sorry for. Can't praise their customer service enough.

Jul 11th, 2006, 09:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
Electric Blue MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sunderland Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 654 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minicore And what happens if, for example, I want the 225 upgrade on my 210? Who do I call about that? Can/do dealers do this anyway? Sad news. You won't be able to I'm afraid, as BMW will only do the "factory" kit..........somehow "I have an MCS Factory kit conversion" doesn't have the same ring to it.

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