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Hat · Sep 29th, 2006, 07:29 AM

how does the quality of the fit & finish & the materials feel compared to the pre-prod models you've seen?

Paul · Sep 29th, 2006, 07:45 AM

Much better, the centre panel doesn't look cheap when you see it "in person", I guess the close ups make the gaps look big around the buttons when they're not really.

That said, I do think they could have been more inventive with that piece. With the Navigation there's more going on there though, so you see less of the back panel. (No cars with satnav were there).

minicabrio · Sep 29th, 2006, 07:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

I asked a lot of the questions here, but didn't get a lot of answers as you might expect, with many of them being on future models. I did manange to find out the third button is still 100% a "mystery button" and will be revealed later next year! Frustrating.

Great stuff Paul, you've done us proud!

The mystery button is intruiging, what is happening next year then i wonder? Ice cold I/C water spray for the JCW? May be traveller related... who knows!

Shame about the yellow S, sure we'll see some press shots floating through soon enough.

Paul · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:01 AM

Shakey Cam Laser Blue MINI Cooper S footage: http://www.mini2.com/galleries/showp.../44259/cat/525

GR33NIE · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by "Reedy" (original)

Fantanstic job with all the pics paul....

.....i just really wanta see whats hiding under this...

Attachment 122490

is it the new aero package...???

Gotta be a Works I reckon

Great pics again Paul

Some voice in my head keeps saying start saving up a decent deposit for a new S

Hat · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

Much better, the centre panel doesn't look cheap when you see it "in person", I guess the close ups make the gaps look big around the buttons when they're not really.

That said, I do think they could have been more inventive with that piece. With the Navigation there's more going on there though, so you see less of the back panel. (No cars with satnav were there).

yeah thats one bit of the interior that really bothers me - looks like they just ran out of ideas & stuck a blanking panel on. the current car looks like individual slot in modules & looks much more finished in this area. its a small niggle though as the rest of the interior looks very classy & much more grown up

SCB · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

...No cars with satnav were there...

Can you find out from one of the reps there, if when ordering the satnav do you get TWO seperate (smaller) displays over the Stering Wheel like you do now? Or is it just going to be the one, e.g. Rev Counter...?

Thanks,
StevieB

Paul · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:20 AM

As per the official photos in the news and gallery, it's just one now. No more "Mikey Mouse ears" as they called it.

Paul · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:21 AM

As a temporary measure, the videos appear uncropped on YouTube:
YouTube - Second Generation MINI Cooper S at Paris Motorshow
YouTube - Laser Blue Second Generation Cooper S at the Paris Motorshow

Chris.F · Sep 29th, 2006, 08:53 AM

Great work Paul. Very much appreciated. The Chilli Red Cooper is very close to the spec I have ordered so to see one is re-assuring I've spent the money wisely!!!!!! II like the half???(could have been more) leather upholstery as part of the chilli pack. Think the money I will be spending on the ventureshield protection for the front end is money better spent (for me). Would have preferred a leather headrest to be honest as per some photos but I am more than happy with the choices on offer/made. I think the red is very much a 'true' mini colour and isn't prone to fashion fads! Its a look after it carefully and it will stand the test of time sort of colour IMO. Particularly with the chrome - retro looking?

On the cream leather - very nice in a showroom - not at all practical in the real World unless its a little used car and you never get wet or dirty. No disrespect to those who like it but I simply couldn't live with it.

Hat · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:00 AM

i've had cordoba beige leather for 2 years now & its surprisingly easy to keep clean. it gets less dirty than a cloth interior

Olly. · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:04 AM

Paul - Do you think there is any chance of MINI showing us any pics of Lightning Blue MINI's?

Hat · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:06 AM

what does look wrong in that show car is how the cream seats & white colour line clash horribly, unless its the lighting

Paul · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:15 AM

Probably the lighting on the different materials. The part I thought "clashed" was the seat back parts still in black/dark grey, along with the rear speaker housing. Didn't quit fit. It was nice leather though, the seats are much improved.

p.s. Cutting together some more shakey cam footage, this time around and in the MINI Cooper (red) at the show.

Chris.F · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:24 AM

Fair post Hat it must be good quality leather! Dad had a Williams 3.0 Baccara Laguna with a pale leather - got very dirty - serves him right for having a Renault I suppose. He had a Silver Spur II that didn't do to well either so perhaps its us?

Paul - Did the Red Cooper half-leather upholstery look ok close up?

Paul · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:39 AM

The leather (and seats in general) looked and felt nice. It was a shame they've reduced the half leather to maybe quarter leather, but it still looked OK, just a big of a cheap move that one.

Root Ginger · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

The leather (and seats in general) looked and felt nice. It was a shame they've reduced the half leather to maybe quarter leather, but it still looked OK, just a big of a cheap move that one.

Or a way of encouraging more people to take the full leather option

miniman23 · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale (original)

Paul - Do you think there is any chance of MINI showing us any pics of Lightning Blue MINI's?

Go to your dealer mate they are now showing pics of the lightening blue while you spec the car up. It shows the colour on the car which helps.

DaveyC · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by miniman23 (original)

Go to your dealer mate they are now showing pics of the lightening blue while you spec the car up. It shows the colour on the car which helps.

I was in my dealer yesterday and they never offered that, might just be my dealer though.

Hat · Sep 29th, 2006, 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original)

Or a way of encouraging more people to take the full leather option

my thoughts exactly. there are a few things like this that seem to be subtly aimed at moving people down the spec sheet

Sep 29th, 2006, 07:29 AM	#201
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Sep 29th, 2006, 07:45 AM	#202 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 46,127 Offline	Much better, the centre panel doesn't look cheap when you see it "in person", I guess the close ups make the gaps look big around the buttons when they're not really. That said, I do think they could have been more inventive with that piece. With the Navigation there's more going on there though, so you see less of the back panel. (No cars with satnav were there). Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:01 AM	#204 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 46,127 Offline	Shakey Cam Laser Blue MINI Cooper S footage: http://www.mini2.com/galleries/showp.../44259/cat/525 Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:02 AM	#205 (permalink)
GR33NIE Polo GT Owner! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 3,701 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by "Reedy" (original) Fantanstic job with all the pics paul.........i just really wanta see whats hiding under this... Attachment 122490 is it the new aero package...??? Gotta be a Works I reckon Great pics again Paul Some voice in my head keeps saying start saving up a decent deposit for a new S ::MINI Sold!::

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:02 AM	#206 (permalink)
Hat Change Is Not Good! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 15,680 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) Much better, the centre panel doesn't look cheap when you see it "in person", I guess the close ups make the gaps look big around the buttons when they're not really. That said, I do think they could have been more inventive with that piece. With the Navigation there's more going on there though, so you see less of the back panel. (No cars with satnav were there). yeah thats one bit of the interior that really bothers me - looks like they just ran out of ideas & stuck a blanking panel on. the current car looks like individual slot in modules & looks much more finished in this area. its a small niggle though as the rest of the interior looks very classy & much more grown up Click here to donate £2000 raised & still going..

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Sep 29th, 2006, 07:54 AM	#203 (permalink)
minicabrio Back in a MINI Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 15,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) I asked a lot of the questions here, but didn't get a lot of answers as you might expect, with many of them being on future models. I did manange to find out the third button is still 100% a "mystery button" and will be revealed later next year! Frustrating. Great stuff Paul, you've done us proud! The mystery button is intruiging, what is happening next year then i wonder? Ice cold I/C water spray for the JCW? May be traveller related... who knows! Shame about the yellow S, sure we'll see some press shots floating through soon enough.

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:17 AM	#207 (permalink)
SCB StevieB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bedford Local Time: 06:14 AM Posts: 128 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) ...No cars with satnav were there... Can you find out from one of the reps there, if when ordering the satnav do you get TWO seperate (smaller) displays over the Stering Wheel like you do now? Or is it just going to be the one, e.g. Rev Counter...? Thanks, StevieB

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:20 AM	#208 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 46,127 Offline	As per the official photos in the news and gallery, it's just one now. No more "Mikey Mouse ears" as they called it. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#209 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 46,127 Offline	As a temporary measure, the videos appear uncropped on YouTube: YouTube - Second Generation MINI Cooper S at Paris Motorshow YouTube - Laser Blue Second Generation Cooper S at the Paris Motorshow Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Sep 29th, 2006, 08:53 AM	#210 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 06:14 AM Posts: 328 Offline	Great work Paul. Very much appreciated. The Chilli Red Cooper is very close to the spec I have ordered so to see one is re-assuring I've spent the money wisely!!!!!! II like the half???(could have been more) leather upholstery as part of the chilli pack. Think the money I will be spending on the ventureshield protection for the front end is money better spent (for me). Would have preferred a leather headrest to be honest as per some photos but I am more than happy with the choices on offer/made. I think the red is very much a 'true' mini colour and isn't prone to fashion fads! Its a look after it carefully and it will stand the test of time sort of colour IMO. Particularly with the chrome - retro looking? On the cream leather - very nice in a showroom - not at all practical in the real World unless its a little used car and you never get wet or dirty. No disrespect to those who like it but I simply couldn't live with it.

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:00 AM	#211 (permalink)
Hat Change Is Not Good! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 15,680 Offline	i've had cordoba beige leather for 2 years now & its surprisingly easy to keep clean. it gets less dirty than a cloth interior Click here to donate £2000 raised & still going..

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:04 AM	#212 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 3,562 Online	Paul - Do you think there is any chance of MINI showing us any pics of Lightning Blue MINI's?

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:06 AM	#213 (permalink)
Hat Change Is Not Good! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 15,680 Offline	what does look wrong in that show car is how the cream seats & white colour line clash horribly, unless its the lighting Click here to donate £2000 raised & still going..

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:15 AM	#214 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 46,127 Offline	Probably the lighting on the different materials. The part I thought "clashed" was the seat back parts still in black/dark grey, along with the rear speaker housing. Didn't quit fit. It was nice leather though, the seats are much improved. p.s. Cutting together some more shakey cam footage, this time around and in the MINI Cooper (red) at the show. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:24 AM	#215 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 06:14 AM Posts: 328 Offline	Fair post Hat it must be good quality leather! Dad had a Williams 3.0 Baccara Laguna with a pale leather - got very dirty - serves him right for having a Renault I suppose. He had a Silver Spur II that didn't do to well either so perhaps its us? Paul - Did the Red Cooper half-leather upholstery look ok close up?

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:39 AM	#216 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 46,127 Offline	The leather (and seats in general) looked and felt nice. It was a shame they've reduced the half leather to maybe quarter leather, but it still looked OK, just a big of a cheap move that one. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:47 AM	#217 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 4,780 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) The leather (and seats in general) looked and felt nice. It was a shame they've reduced the half leather to maybe quarter leather, but it still looked OK, just a big of a cheap move that one. Or a way of encouraging more people to take the full leather option It was acceptable in the 80's

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:55 AM	#218 (permalink)
miniman23 MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: London Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale (original) Paul - Do you think there is any chance of MINI showing us any pics of Lightning Blue MINI's? Go to your dealer mate they are now showing pics of the lightening blue while you spec the car up. It shows the colour on the car which helps.

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:58 AM	#219 (permalink)
DaveyC MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ingleby Barwick Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 180 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by miniman23 (original) Go to your dealer mate they are now showing pics of the lightening blue while you spec the car up. It shows the colour on the car which helps. I was in my dealer yesterday and they never offered that, might just be my dealer though.

Sep 29th, 2006, 09:58 AM	#220 (permalink)
Hat Change Is Not Good! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 07:14 AM Posts: 15,680 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Root Ginger (original) Or a way of encouraging more people to take the full leather option my thoughts exactly. there are a few things like this that seem to be subtly aimed at moving people down the spec sheet Click here to donate £2000 raised & still going..

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