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View Poll Results: Would you report someone who isn't taxed?
Yes of course, these dodgers cost us more money 27 33.33%
Yes of course, as they are most likely unroad worthy too 40 49.38%
No its none of my business 22 27.16%
No as I don't always have tax on my car 0 0%
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Old Oct 30th, 2006, 09:05 PM   #21
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Quote: Originally Posted by mikeythemini (original)
Thought I noticed a red cabrio with an expired disc on saturday
What was that number??

you don't need the number, you can do it online

oh mines all up to date

The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?
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Old Oct 30th, 2006, 09:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't even think I would notice, tbh


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Old Oct 30th, 2006, 09:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes (original)
I don't even think I would notice, tbh

Would you notice if I pinched your bananas?
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Old Oct 30th, 2006, 10:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by smartbomb (original)
I would certainly report someone with no road-tax. Guy down the road has a disc that expired January 2005. If you belive the ads 'they' know who/where he is ! Yeah right ! So in over 20 months no Policeman/traffic warden has seen it ! What a joke ! At least he has replaced the 4 bald tyres with some quality remoulds.
I pay my taxes and am law abiding, so why should others get away with it ?

This is useful....
Untaxed vehicle : Directgov - Motoring
The likelihood of having any MOT or insurance is pretty low, if he ran his car into yours only imagine the aggrevation......

Got to be with you on this one........ Just hope the police crush any car with no tax ,insurance etc
Got to keep these paracites off the road at all cost, too many un-road worthy car as it is, but as for getting any prosecution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got to laugh ain't ya. Too many GATSO's and not enough Police on the Job.
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Old Oct 30th, 2006, 11:05 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Cheers for the support.
Still gotta laugh at the 'we know where you live' ads. OK so you've got this computer the size of a bungalow and you still can't locate a clapped out motor which has been on the same road for almost 2 years without tax.
Well congratulations on using the computer that's so bad even the NHS won't use it !
I mean if it it's so good why do you have hotlines and websistes to report cars !
They'll be asking to keep an eye on people with electronic tags next.....
.....oh hold on they've just gone for a spin !

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Old Oct 30th, 2006, 11:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)
if it was a nice car I wouldnt report it

That's even more of a reason to report it! if the driver can afford the tax. The other week I was behind a young family at the supermarket - i noticed a few items (not many) were placed under the pushchair through the checkout so they were not paid for. I came close to saying something but thought they have a baby and they may be really struggling, and people do worse (they paid for the vast majority of their shopping). Later I saw them getting into a new Volvo V50, enough said.

I feel quite strongly about this one, I wanted a car when I was 17 but couldn't afford the tax, insurance etc, so I didn't get one, simple.

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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 05:30 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by smartbomb (original)
Cheers for the support.
Still gotta laugh at the 'we know where you live' ads. I mean if it it's so good why do you have hotlines and websistes to report cars !
They'll be asking to keep an eye on people with electronic tags next.....
.....oh hold on they've just gone for a spin !

With three million CCTV Camera's in the U.K. and obviously from this thread some 60 million Snitches just jumping at the opportunity to turn over anyone with a expired car tax tag or any other minor infraction, you can bet electronic tracking tags are coming.

Growing up in the U.K. and experiencing the Council Poll Tax revolt, silly me was thinking that most of the U.K. population still shamed ridiculously high taxes but I can see now from these posts, you all deserve and support being the highest taxed nation in the world.
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 05:45 AM   #28 (permalink)
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It would depend on how far out of date the registration / tax was. If it was a few weeks or a month then it is probably just an oversight, and I wouldn't report that, but if it was over a year then they shouldn't be driving, as they are probably uninsured and unlicenced as well.

If they can't afford the tax, then they shouldn't have the car. There are alternatives.
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 07:04 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Smurfn (original)
It would depend on how far out of date the registration / tax was. If it was a few weeks or a month then it is probably just an oversight, and I wouldn't report that, but if it was over a year then they shouldn't be driving, as they are probably uninsured and unlicenced as well.

If they can't afford the tax, then they shouldn't have the car. There are alternatives.

Since everyone is making unproven assumptions. No car tax = uninsured/unlicenced, allow me to add mine. Maybe the person thinks he is taxed to the hill and back already and as a occasional driver should not be paying the same road tax to just go to church or Tesco's once a week, compared to someone who drives every day and would better comply and support a per mile user pay system.

All said, being a snitch is a poor and cowardly existance!
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 07:38 AM   #30 (permalink)
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it really depends, if it was a nice car I wouldnt report it, if it was a female driver I wouldnt report it, I'd only consider it if it was someone who had done something wrong to me or an illegal immigrant etc.

Im sorry but thats not morally right. Infact its wrong in every way!

Whoever dodges tax/insurance is committing just as much of a crime as the other person. Doesnt matter about gender, race / ethnic origins!

Taxis a pain, I agree. It costs you money that you could do with spending on other things sometimes. But, thats life! Same with insurance and keeping your car maintained properly.

It costs money, but so does all the alcohol you drink when you got to the pub. Or the mods you buy for your car. Life is all about making and spending money, if we didnt do it we wouldnt get anywhere. Dodging a mere £100-200 road tax once a year because "you cant afford it" is a poor excuse. Say you have a Cooper S, and your tax is £190 for a year (that right?)?. If you save just 3.65 a week, for each of the 52 weeks in a year, thats enough.

And as said in earlier posts, by dodging other things such as general car maintenance/insurance you are putting other peoples lives at risk and also ruining other peoples lives.

Pay tax, pay insurance, maintain your car to a road worth standard. If you dont, you shouldnt be on the road.
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 09:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I drove my MCS JCW for 3 days with no tax. The garage that sold it to me didnt put tax on the vehicle and I didnt notice until Saturday afternoon.

Other than what happened to me I see no reason not to have tax. Some of it does pay for some of the road maintainance after all. Even if someone had reported me on the first day I am sure I would have had tax on the car before the DVLA or Police had done anything.

I saw someone mention about bikes dodging tax. Why should they? Even off-road bikes cause less damage to ground than the average rambler. They do no damage at all to the road. They also dont contribute to congestion or polution.
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 09:54 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by British SD (original)
Since everyone is making unproven assumptions. No car tax = uninsured/unlicenced, allow me to add mine. Maybe the person thinks he is taxed to the hill and back already and as a occasional driver should not be paying the same road tax to just go to church or Tesco's once a week, compared to someone who drives every day and would better comply and support a per mile user pay system.

All said, being a snitch is a poor and cowardly existance!


I just can't understand people who attempt to jusitfy not paying car tax because they think it's unfair! It's a legal requirement, like paying income tax and not shoplifting! How about next time you walk into a petrol station and only pay half the amount the cashier asks for, because half the money they ask for on the petrol is tax?

We all pay, no exceptions. Especially for 'moral' arguments. You pay until a fairer system is devised, not when you think you want to.

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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 10:01 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by British SD (original)
Since everyone is making unproven assumptions. No car tax = uninsured/unlicenced, allow me to add mine. Maybe the person thinks he is taxed to the hill and back already and as a occasional driver should not be paying the same road tax to just go to church or Tesco's once a week, compared to someone who drives every day and would better comply and support a per mile user pay system.

All said, being a snitch is a poor and cowardly existance!

So you'd have a limit on how many miles you can do without road-tax ? Just like you'd not pay your TV licence if you only watched Songs of Praise ?
Of course we all deserve to be so highly taxed ! We choose to live here cos we like it. Well I do anyway. I have no problem paying my way.
So how come being a snitch is a poor and cowardly existence ? Bit like saying the Police are just a bunch of law abiding Johnny do-gooders makers hell bent on spoiling it for the rest of us.

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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 10:49 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by British SD (original)
Since everyone is making unproven assumptions. No car tax = uninsured/unlicenced, allow me to add mine. Maybe the person thinks he is taxed to the hill and back already and as a occasional driver should not be paying the same road tax to just go to church or Tesco's once a week, compared to someone who drives every day and would better comply and support a per mile user pay system.

All said, being a snitch is a poor and cowardly existance!

If they don't want to pay the tax, they can move to Canada

Not sure how the system in Britain works, but here, if you aren't registered (taxed) you can't be insured.

If the owner doesn't want to pay the tax, they don't have to. They just aren't allowed to drive then

If you saw someone waving a gun around would you report it? Or just think that "snitching" is cowardly? Until someone gets injured or killed
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 11:00 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by British SD (original)
Since everyone is making unproven assumptions. No car tax = uninsured/unlicenced, allow me to add mine.

I happen to work in the field, so would like to think I have somewhat of an informed assumption.

Let's put it this way, every car that I've dealt with that has had tax that is more than a month out of date (less than a month out of date and they won't be prosecuted anyway, in most cases) has also been uninsured. The tax itself I'm not as bothered about (though, if I have to pay it for the privilege of driving, so should everyone else), it's the linked offences which do make my blood boil.

As mentioned by someone else earlier, just wait until an uninsured car writes yours off. See how you feel about snitches then.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Smurfn (original)
If they don't want to pay the tax, they can move to Canada

Not sure how the system in Britain works, but here, if you aren't registered (taxed) you can't be insured.

If the owner doesn't want to pay the tax, they don't have to. They just aren't allowed to drive then

If you saw someone waving a gun around would you report it? Or just think that "snitching" is cowardly? Until someone gets injured or killed

If your not insured or your vehicle doesn't have an MOT (if over 3 years old) you can't buy the vehicle road license.

Think thats why a lot of cars that are not taxed are perceived as not been road worthy

The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 08:48 PM   #37 (permalink)
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If it was a mate I'd highlight the error of his ways - otherwise yes, having been hit before by an uninsured muppet and having to take the hit on my insurance I have little patience for the low life who try to cheat the system at the expense of others.

and i'm staggered at some of the responses in this thread
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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 08:52 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Old Nov 1st, 2006, 01:20 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I totally understand the fact that the cars / drivers probably have other problems too - such as no insurance etc.

Having said that:
- I've driven around with an out of date disc by accident for a few days (because the new one was behind it ready to swap over and I forgot)
- we also used to keep the one for the kit car in the locked glove box as you could just reach in and pinch it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by spf (original)
I totally understand the fact that the cars / drivers probably have other problems too - such as no insurance etc.

Having said that:
- I've driven around with an out of date disc by accident for a few days (because the new one was behind it ready to swap over and I forgot)

That's fine though, there is a leeway you know!!!

- we also used to keep the one for the kit car in the locked glove box as you could just reach in and pinch it.

That's like failure to display, I am afraid that is an offence! Petty as it is and with the new computerised system I'd eat my hat if it is a problem in the future ..... beware though an authority that is short of money though!
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