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faster,Tobias! · Nov 1st, 2006, 11:14 PM

Slightly off topic, but what is the road tax now in the UK?

Cardo · Nov 1st, 2006, 11:16 PM

Nobody gets done for failing to display, these days. You may get stopped, and if you don't have the disc on you, a police officer may report you to the DVLA, but once someone checks on the computer, it'll show you're taxed and that's the end of it. You'll notice a large number of bikes don't have their tax discs on display.

Sharkattack · Nov 1st, 2006, 11:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Cardo (original)

Nobody gets done for failing to display, these days. You may get stopped, and if you don't have the disc on you, a police officer may report you to the DVLA, but once someone checks on the computer, it'll show you're taxed and that's the end of it. You'll notice a large number of bikes don't have their tax discs on display.

The beauty of the new system, yes BUT they still have the power to nick you on failure to display, the law hasn't changed I don't think, so be nice (UGG) to them if you are not ... that's all really, what's your problem?

Cardo · Nov 1st, 2006, 11:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Sharkattack (original)

that's all really, what's your problem?

Hmm? No problem, was just trying to clarify the realities of today's policing.

Scrogg · Nov 1st, 2006, 11:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by faster,Tobias! (original)

Slightly off topic, but what is the road tax now in the UK?

It's fairly complicated now, as all cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 are taxed based on their emissions and fall in to one of 6 bands (or 7 for cars registered on or after 23 March 2006)

Basically, petrol cars range from £0.00 (yes, FREE) to £210.00 per year, with diesel cars ranging from £0.00 to £215.00.

All the information is on here:

The cost of vehicle tax for cars, motorcycles, light goods vehicles and trade licences : Directgov - Motoring

spf · Nov 2nd, 2006, 11:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Sharkattack (original)

That's like failure to display, I am afraid that is an offence! Petty as it is and with the new computerised system I'd eat my hat if it is a problem in the future ..... beware though an authority that is short of money though!

Yes I know - we haven't got the kit car now so not an issue. And I have a new tax disc holder that cannot hold more than one so put the disc at the door to remind me to take it!

MINIMAT · Nov 2nd, 2006, 08:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by British SD (original)

you all deserve and support being the highest taxed nation in the world.

If everyone paid their share the taxes wouldn't be so high. Particularly car insurance which is higher than it should be to cover those who don't pay. For years I couldn't afford to drive so I went to work by bycycle or bus . Why should others get away with it? Having a car is NOT a right.

My car tax is up at the end of the month. I can't really afford it with Christmas coming up but I'll pay because I'm honest.

Smurfn · Nov 3rd, 2006, 07:49 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIMAT (original)

Having a car is NOT a right.

Exactly!!

ttocs · Nov 3rd, 2006, 12:42 PM

Tax dodgers..........burn them, burn them all!!!

sel · Nov 3rd, 2006, 12:58 PM

yep i 'dob' them in.... if i pay... so should they!!

.... they are probably also the idiots... who have no MOTs... no insurance etc!!!.......

smartbomb · Nov 3rd, 2006, 06:21 PM

I would burn them to, and their cars !
They are just lowlifes who in a lot of cases have no MOT or insurance and are putting other people at risk.
We do not deserve to be so highly taxed 'cos we report those who offend. So the nation that deserves the lowest taxes is who exactly ? Somwhere where you don't pay for what you use ?

ttocs · Nov 3rd, 2006, 07:11 PM

mind you I'm not sure you can burn sh*te

smartbomb · Nov 5th, 2006, 08:22 PM

Well the car in my village which dispalys a tax disc dated Jan 05 is still being used. At least he has replaced the bald tyres with some ropey remoulds. Just incredible this guy has left such an ancient disc in the windscreen and even more incredible that after 3 reports it's not been recycled into tin cans.

Capsaisin · Nov 6th, 2006, 12:22 PM

I have watched with interest the DVLA ads, lauding their new computerised car registration computer (err, was this not supposed to have been set up in the mid 70's?).
Unfortunately, it seems to me (but I am a mere mortal, not a civil servant) that the sort of scrotes who do not tax their cars, and do not have insurance, intellectually challenged as they may be, are not stupid enough to actually register their real address with the DVLA.
Hence, the DVLA actually do not know who "you" are if you are a crook.

drugsdoworks · Nov 7th, 2006, 08:08 PM

i would shop them. to many people drive without tax and most have no insurance ether.

mexico · Dec 8th, 2006, 03:56 PM

Shouldn't be any need to shop anyone , the new green cameras + mobile ones check each vehicle as it passes for road tax and insurance .

smartbomb · Dec 8th, 2006, 04:30 PM

Well I hope the guy down the road gets caught by a new camera ! His tax expired in Jan 05. I hope they remove his car from the road, fine him £20,000, ban him from ever owning a car again and have his expired tax disc tattooed on his forehead.

Hatrick · Dec 8th, 2006, 07:50 PM

Bottom line is it's a legal requirement to have road tax.

In my expereince in this subject, (I've had a little) as already mentioned if people can't be bothered to pay for tax, they can't be bothered to pay for insurance, licences, repaires, ect ect.

Plus everyone knows that insurance companies will use the slightest excuss NOT to pay out on claims even if the car is insured.
Lets say something like it was not taxed or registered 'sawn' and as so was being driven illegally.

I have a work collegue who is having trouble claiming against a van driver who rear ended her car for precisely this reason.

I don't beleive the tax system is fair since the changes, but they are there, and it has to be paid.

If you don't agree with it, change it by votes, not getting the rest of us to pay the difference.

(I'll get off my soap box now.

)

morrisminiminor · Dec 8th, 2006, 09:25 PM

Interesting question. Now if the Numpties at the DVLA were doing their job like they advertise they do, these tax dodgers would be caught. They don't so depend on others to do their job for them. Funny how people in jobs like these can get away with not doing their job properly. Probably get a bonus for being incompetent too. Just like our greedy grasping MPs & MSPs. Also, do you honestly believe that if everyone paid their taxes, taxes would go down? Not with this government they wouldn't. The Tories weren't much use either. They put VAT up to 17.5%.

morrisminiminor

Lawrothegreat · Dec 8th, 2006, 10:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin (original)

the sort of scrotes who do not tax their cars, and do not have insurance, intellectually challenged as they may be, are not stupid enough to actually register their real address with the DVLA.
Hence, the DVLA actually do not know who "you" are if you are a crook.

This is true but I'm assuming as soon as the offending driver commits an offence and the DVLA recognises a false address is held, the registration plate is entered onto the database which the new cameras in police cars use which can scan numberplates of all cars passing them in traffic. Well I hope anyway.

View Poll Results: Would you report someone who isn't taxed?
Yes of course, these dodgers cost us more money	27	33.33%
Yes of course, as they are most likely unroad worthy too	40	49.38%
No its none of my business	22	27.16%
No as I don't always have tax on my car	0	0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

Nov 3rd, 2006, 07:49 AM	#48 (permalink)
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Nov 1st, 2006, 11:16 PM	#42 (permalink)
Cardo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 219 Offline	Nobody gets done for failing to display, these days. You may get stopped, and if you don't have the disc on you, a police officer may report you to the DVLA, but once someone checks on the computer, it'll show you're taxed and that's the end of it. You'll notice a large number of bikes don't have their tax discs on display.

Nov 1st, 2006, 11:21 PM	#43 (permalink)
Sharkattack MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 43 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Cardo (original) Nobody gets done for failing to display, these days. You may get stopped, and if you don't have the disc on you, a police officer may report you to the DVLA, but once someone checks on the computer, it'll show you're taxed and that's the end of it. You'll notice a large number of bikes don't have their tax discs on display. The beauty of the new system, yes BUT they still have the power to nick you on failure to display, the law hasn't changed I don't think, so be nice (UGG) to them if you are not ... that's all really, what's your problem?

Nov 1st, 2006, 11:29 PM	#44 (permalink)
Cardo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 219 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Sharkattack (original) that's all really, what's your problem? Hmm? No problem, was just trying to clarify the realities of today's policing.

Nov 1st, 2006, 11:56 PM	#45 (permalink)
Scrogg Run out of ideas... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 15,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by faster,Tobias! (original) Slightly off topic, but what is the road tax now in the UK? It's fairly complicated now, as all cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 are taxed based on their emissions and fall in to one of 6 bands (or 7 for cars registered on or after 23 March 2006) Basically, petrol cars range from £0.00 (yes, FREE) to £210.00 per year, with diesel cars ranging from £0.00 to £215.00. All the information is on here: The cost of vehicle tax for cars, motorcycles, light goods vehicles and trade licences : Directgov - Motoring

Nov 2nd, 2006, 11:13 AM	#46 (permalink)
spf MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cleveland Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 1,161 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Sharkattack (original) That's like failure to display, I am afraid that is an offence! Petty as it is and with the new computerised system I'd eat my hat if it is a problem in the future ..... beware though an authority that is short of money though! Yes I know - we haven't got the kit car now so not an issue. And I have a new tax disc holder that cannot hold more than one so put the disc at the door to remind me to take it!

Nov 2nd, 2006, 08:16 PM	#47 (permalink)
MINIMAT MINIMAT Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Birmingham Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 823 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by British SD (original) you all deserve and support being the highest taxed nation in the world. If everyone paid their share the taxes wouldn't be so high. Particularly car insurance which is higher than it should be to cover those who don't pay. For years I couldn't afford to drive so I went to work by bycycle or bus . Why should others get away with it? Having a car is NOT a right. My car tax is up at the end of the month. I can't really afford it with Christmas coming up but I'll pay because I'm honest.

Nov 3rd, 2006, 12:42 PM	#49 (permalink)
ttocs MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 3,677 Offline	Tax dodgers..........burn them, burn them all!!!

Nov 3rd, 2006, 06:21 PM	#51 (permalink)
smartbomb Bring the noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Trancentral Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 2,437 Offline	I would burn them to, and their cars ! They are just lowlifes who in a lot of cases have no MOT or insurance and are putting other people at risk. We do not deserve to be so highly taxed 'cos we report those who offend. So the nation that deserves the lowest taxes is who exactly ? Somwhere where you don't pay for what you use ?

Nov 3rd, 2006, 07:11 PM	#52 (permalink)
ttocs MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 3,677 Offline	mind you I'm not sure you can burn sh*te

Nov 5th, 2006, 08:22 PM	#53 (permalink)
smartbomb Bring the noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Trancentral Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 2,437 Offline	Well the car in my village which dispalys a tax disc dated Jan 05 is still being used. At least he has replaced the bald tyres with some ropey remoulds. Just incredible this guy has left such an ancient disc in the windscreen and even more incredible that after 3 reports it's not been recycled into tin cans.

Nov 6th, 2006, 12:22 PM	#54 (permalink)
Capsaisin cave capsicum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crewe Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 3,366 Offline	I have watched with interest the DVLA ads, lauding their new computerised car registration computer (err, was this not supposed to have been set up in the mid 70's?). Unfortunately, it seems to me (but I am a mere mortal, not a civil servant) that the sort of scrotes who do not tax their cars, and do not have insurance, intellectually challenged as they may be, are not stupid enough to actually register their real address with the DVLA. Hence, the DVLA actually do not know who "you" are if you are a crook.

Nov 7th, 2006, 08:08 PM	#55 (permalink)
drugsdoworks MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 11 Offline	i would shop them. to many people drive without tax and most have no insurance ether.

Dec 8th, 2006, 03:56 PM	#56 (permalink)
mexico MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 11 Offline	Shouldn't be any need to shop anyone , the new green cameras + mobile ones check each vehicle as it passes for road tax and insurance .

Dec 8th, 2006, 04:30 PM	#57 (permalink)
smartbomb Bring the noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Trancentral Local Time: 03:16 PM Posts: 2,437 Offline	Well I hope the guy down the road gets caught by a new camera ! His tax expired in Jan 05. I hope they remove his car from the road, fine him £20,000, ban him from ever owning a car again and have his expired tax disc tattooed on his forehead.

Dec 8th, 2006, 07:50 PM	#58 (permalink)
Hatrick MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tamworth, Staffs. Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 442 Offline	Bottom line is it's a legal requirement to have road tax. In my expereince in this subject, (I've had a little) as already mentioned if people can't be bothered to pay for tax, they can't be bothered to pay for insurance, licences, repaires, ect ect. Plus everyone knows that insurance companies will use the slightest excuss NOT to pay out on claims even if the car is insured. Lets say something like it was not taxed or registered 'sawn' and as so was being driven illegally. I have a work collegue who is having trouble claiming against a van driver who rear ended her car for precisely this reason. I don't beleive the tax system is fair since the changes, but they are there, and it has to be paid. If you don't agree with it, change it by votes, not getting the rest of us to pay the difference. (I'll get off my soap box now. )

Dec 8th, 2006, 09:25 PM	#59 (permalink)
morrisminiminor MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bonnie Scotland. Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 364 Offline	Interesting question. Now if the Numpties at the DVLA were doing their job like they advertise they do, these tax dodgers would be caught. They don't so depend on others to do their job for them. Funny how people in jobs like these can get away with not doing their job properly. Probably get a bonus for being incompetent too. Just like our greedy grasping MPs & MSPs. Also, do you honestly believe that if everyone paid their taxes, taxes would go down? Not with this government they wouldn't. The Tories weren't much use either. They put VAT up to 17.5%. morrisminiminor

Dec 8th, 2006, 10:09 PM	#60 (permalink)
Lawrothegreat Mini Design Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 780 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Capsaisin (original) the sort of scrotes who do not tax their cars, and do not have insurance, intellectually challenged as they may be, are not stupid enough to actually register their real address with the DVLA. Hence, the DVLA actually do not know who "you" are if you are a crook. This is true but I'm assuming as soon as the offending driver commits an offence and the DVLA recognises a false address is held, the registration plate is entered onto the database which the new cameras in police cars use which can scan numberplates of all cars passing them in traffic. Well I hope anyway.

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